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Condiv posted:you can just post about topics you think are important without whining that the thread is talking about something you don't like I do. That’s why I went back to the Trump thread, even though VA Governor’s race ought to be here. It comes back to Hillary in here within hours. There are Star Trek threads with more living, evolving conversations than Hillary Chat.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:I do. That’s why I went back to the Trump thread, even though VA Governor’s race ought to be here. It comes back to Hillary in here within hours. There are Star Trek threads with more living, evolving conversations than Hillary Chat. maybe stop contributing to it if you want it to go away? theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/es_snipes/status/923555729738424325 i don't know much about deblasio aside from that time the cops protested him by not doing their jobs and it backfired
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I was reading an article the other day about how it apparently is super important for him to crusade against powered bicycles used for deliveries (???) so who the gently caress knows, New York man amirite? And the NYPD also continues to be garbage pricks, but that’s like the weather at this point.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/president-george-hw-bush-sexual-assault-actress-2017-10quote:A New York actress named Jordana Grolnick told Deadspin that Bush groped her during a photo op at a theater in Maine last year. lmao What the gently caress, HW?
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Lol it's almost Halloween and the House only just now passed the budget resolution and only by 4 votes? They had that many defections before a deal has even been inked? I do not see this happening with only 8 weeks left in the year and even that punctuated by Thanksgiving holiday.
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Here's a tip for centrists: if you don't want Hillary to continue being the subject of conversation, stop defending the indefensible poo poo she's done. This entire conversation about Hillary would have been over on the first page if there had been agreement that voluntarily associating yourself with war criminals is a bad look for a presidential candidate. But since you folks literally could not stomach admitting that Clinton was anything less than perfect, you made this conversation into a multi-page nonsense derail about whether or not anti-imperialists are really just closet sexists. Most people in this thread voted for Clinton. Obviously that's because we were able to see that her horribleness was lesser than that of Donald Trump. So there's literally no reason to punch left with the frequency and intensity that has been present in this thread, and yet you morons can't help yourself.
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Grapplejack posted:http://www.businessinsider.com/president-george-hw-bush-sexual-assault-actress-2017-10 wow, right in front of his wife too...
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Condiv posted:wow, right in front of his wife too... I 100% guarantee you he verbally or emotionally abuses her at best, or at least did in the past. Dude is peak entitlement.
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Lightning Knight posted:I 100% guarantee you he verbally or emotionally abuses her at best, or at least did in the past. Dude is peak entitlement. yeah the stories about Bush Senior were pretty long on how you should not leave your secretary in the same room as him
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Ze Pollack posted:yeah the stories about Bush Senior were pretty long on how you should not leave your secretary in the same room as him I imagine every president in the last 100 years is like him except maybe Carter and Obama if we’re lucky. It’s loving awful.
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Although to be fair I used to work in a nursing home and that particular anecdote feels exceedingly tame for a 93 year old guy who's run out of fucks to give. At a certain point all filters and decency seem to go for just about everyone.
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Chomskyan posted:Here's a tip for centrists: if you don't want Hillary to continue being the subject of conversation, stop defending the indefensible poo poo she's done. Hi. Labor activist. There’s an election in Virginia in twelve days. Let’s talk about it instead, since it’s happening now. Northam is up marginally, though not comfortably, against Ed Gillespie. It’s gonna come down to Northern VA turnout, like most statewide elections do. There’s a variety of crazy House of Delegates races, like the trans woman vs the man who introduced a bathroom bill (Danica Roem vs Bob Marshall), a Peruvian immigrant card carrying AFSCME member vs an NRA cardboard cutout (Elizabeth Guzman vs Scott Lingamfelter) and my personal favorite, a man who introduces working class legislation vs an Indian immigrant who introduced Trump at the RNC, a race that’s had almost $1,000,000 poured into it (John Bell vs Subba Kolla). Virginia is the first real, competitive fight since the world ended, and the narrative for people who only pay nominal attention will be dictated by it to a degree. It either becomes “Trump Rising” or “wave begins to crest.” If you can help out in any way, I can direct your energy appropriately. If you just wanna throw  at a candidate, I’ll find you one that aligns with you. If you have an hour to make phone calls, I can get you hooked into a virtual phone bank so you can gin up votes from your greasy computer chair. If you live in the state, i can direct you to a canvassing group that provides food and makes you feel appreciated. Bitching on the internet is easy, unhelpful, and honestly a bit toxic if it’s all you do. But getting involved? That’s the good stuff. You might even make a friend. Friends are vital in 2017 y’all.
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DrNutt posted:Although to be fair I used to work in a nursing home and that particular anecdote feels exceedingly tame for a 93 year old guy who's run out of fucks to give. At a certain point all filters and decency seem to go for just about everyone. I mean a) that’s not an excuse, and b) he was demonstrably like that before he was old. @ybf I greatly enjoy your updates even if I have not much to add. Keep at it!  Edit: The Shock Doctrine preys on Puerto Rico as we speak. Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 26, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/923576061442641920 I also forgot a bullshit RWM meme took down an NGO while democrats controlled Congress.
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/es_snipes/status/923555729738424325 Purge the impure 
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Democrazy posted:When someone brings up sexism and racism in leftism and your first response is to deflect, I think you should take stock of just how aware you are being of your own role in the white supremacist patriarchy. You are racist. Now if you respond to me in a way that isn't deferential, it merely means you are deflecting criticism, and thus implicitly admitting guilt.
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steinrokkan posted:You are racist. Now if you respond to me in a way that isn't deferential, it merely means you are deflecting criticism, and thus implicitly admitting guilt. I am racist. I have racist tendencies that I work very hard to control, and when I get called out I try my best to make amends. I am not immune to white supremacy and racism, nor is anyone else in society.
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Mantis42 posted:Did tiny the brontosaur really have the balls to cry sexism over criticizing HRC's hawkishness? Jesus To be fair, I think the reason was more related to people choosing to criticize Clinton during a time when she isn't even politically active, rather than a defense of Clinton's actions (though I guess that doesn't really explain trying to defend the Kissinger stuff on the basis of claiming it's "blaming a woman for the actions of a man"). There's a legitimate point about people disproportionately focusing on Clinton relative to other politicians despite the election being over and her being unlikely to run again, though I would attribute that more to "people commenting more on public figures who frequently show up in the media" than sexism (though I guess you could attribute the "showing up more in the media" itself at least partially to sexism, and there's no doubt that people tend to be more critical of a woman relative to a man for the same sort of actions, though it's difficult to prove this on an individual basis).
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/923576061442641920 Acorn is a cautionary tale in why we need to hold dems to a higher standard Electing a bunch of dems doesn't help much if they're republican yes men
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DrNutt posted:Although to be fair I used to work in a nursing home and that particular anecdote feels exceedingly tame for a 93 year old guy who's run out of fucks to give. At a certain point all filters and decency seem to go for just about everyone. counterpoint: sexism.....is bad?!?!!!!
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Yeah Dems didn't kill ACORN because Dems are cowards, Dems killed ACORN because they criticized fraudulent bankers.
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/923576061442641920 Woof. Nothing really defensible about defunding ACORN, although, as a counter factual, Democrats actually passed healthcare reform, along with economic stimulus bill, and a banking reform bill.
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/923576061442641920 This is part of why it's so aggravating for people on the left to hear why the Democrats "need" to "compromise." Nobody needed to buckle to the Republicans on this, and it wasn't compromise. And we've seen poo poo like this over and over and over again over the past couple decades. VitalSigns posted:Yeah Dems didn't kill ACORN because Dems are cowards, Dems killed ACORN because they criticized fraudulent bankers. I'm a little dubious of this. It was probably the case for some of them, but the reality is, a lot of Democratic legislators are driven by loss-aversion. e: I'm a big believer in Hanlon's Razor, though. Majorian fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Oct 26, 2017 |
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Virginia is the first real, competitive fight since the world ended, and the narrative for people who only pay nominal attention will be dictated by it to a degree. It either becomes “Trump Rising” or “wave begins to crest.”
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Hi. Labor activist. There’s an election in Virginia in twelve days. Let’s talk about it instead, since it’s happening now. I think you missed my point and are being pretty condescending, but if you want to post some links about the organizations you've mentioned feel free. Literally nobody is stopping you from doing something productive in this thread. In fact, I encourage you to do so
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Condiv posted:if trump thread posters want uspol to be different, they should probably exit their safe space and post in uspol Be nicer to them, their minds were shattered https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/791263939015376902
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white sauce posted:Be nicer to them, their minds were shattered TBH, this belongs in the thunderdome
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I assume Bush Sr is hella senile right now He's always been like this He just can't control his impulses as well
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Chomskyan posted:I think you missed my point and are being pretty condescending, but if you want to post some links about the organizations you've mentioned feel free. Literally nobody is stopping you from doing something productive in this thread. In fact, I encourage you to do so Yeah, posts along the lines of "heh if you're posting about politics on the internet, clearly you're a lazy do-nothing" are really obnoxious, especially since they're universally aimed at the left. I don't think I've ever seen someone on the left attack liberals in this same way. I think it's part of a broader strategy to try and slander the left as a bunch of immature whiny children (contrasted with the calm, reasonable liberal who Knows How To Get Things Done).
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This thread is a prime example of why we're going to get crushed again in 2018 and likely 2020. The far leftists among us loving despise "Liberals" even more than centrists, who they talk more poo poo about than the right. Existential threat from the far right in full power over all government? Nah, gently caress it, let's rehash the primaries and poo poo on Obama or Clinton some more. "Allies" are only allies if they agree with us on everything. gently caress it, let's drink and watch Gillespie win VA while the world burns.
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, posts along the lines of "heh if you're posting about politics on the internet, clearly you're a lazy do-nothing" are really obnoxious, especially since they're universally aimed at the left. I don't think I've ever seen someone on the left attack liberals in this same way. I think it's part of a broader strategy to try and slander the left as a bunch of immature whiny children (contrasted with the calm, reasonable liberal who Knows How To Get Things Done). and now for another episode of "my own experience is good enough for everyone..."
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Talmonis posted:This thread is a prime example of why we're going to get crushed again in 2018 and likely 2020. The far leftists among us loving despise "Liberals" even more than centrists, who they talk more poo poo about than the right. Existential threat from the far right in full power over all government? Nah, gently caress it, let's rehash the primaries and poo poo on Obama or Clinton some more. "Allies" are only allies if they agree with us on everything. Step one is realizing the Dems have a very large opportunity for improvement
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https://twitter.com/VICE/status/923591809846140929 Justice is blind, but she does have scales... Seriously,what the gently caress? Is there a thread for this Handmaiden's Tale bullshit?
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Talmonis posted:"Allies" are only allies if they agree with us on everything. I summarized your post for you  dunno why you feel that way, but it's not particularly healthy deoju posted:https://twitter.com/VICE/status/923591809846140929 The cops are bad thread in cspam seems to more specifically fit this if that's what you're asking, but it certainly fits here I think In any case, wtf
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Talmonis posted:This thread is a prime example of why we're going to get crushed again in 2018 and likely 2020. The far leftists among us loving despise "Liberals" even more than centrists, who they talk more poo poo about than the right. Existential threat from the far right in full power over all government? Nah, gently caress it, let's rehash the primaries and poo poo on Obama or Clinton some more. "Allies" are only allies if they agree with us on everything. leftists and trump have a great deal in common - oversized children - hate democrats - have a Tweet for a brain (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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