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Phlegmish posted:Do you mean anachronism? Those old episodes with religious overtones (going to hell for stealing cable, Bart selling his soul) were weird and uncomfortable to European audiences, but they were still better than what we have now. I dunno, although in retrospect some the episodes were pretty weird (especially Homer the heretic where Lisa's line 'Why are dedicating your life to Blasphemy?' seems incredibly out of character for her) growing up in Ireland everyone went to church every week and religious events were super important. From that perspective the Simpsons seemed relatable and sometimes a bit edgy, like that scene where everyone gets back from church and are super ecstatic, 'the longest possible time before more church', that was good. 54 40 or gently caress posted:No joke, this is why Hayao Miyazaki hates anime. He straight up said it’s made by shut ins who don’t actually watch or interact with humans and modern animation is stiff and lifeless because of it Again this is not quite what's happening. If you look at the history of animation what's often the case is that animators get locked into the main style of the time to such an extent that breaking out of that style or applying real artistic talent starts to get very difficult. Back in the 20s and 30s the famous 'rubber-hose' animation style in america was absolutely entrenched to the exclusion of everything else and people's success in the industry tended to be closely tied to their ability to recreate the styles of particular powerful gatekeepers in the industry who had a lot of contempt for other styles of animation and even for genuine artistic talent. Staying rigorously close to the guidelines and styles of the time was most highly valued which severely limited animation's potential until companies like Disney started to break away from that.
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it seems weird because Lisa is the only one with character development Lisa became corrupted by Buddhism and Vegetarianism and those traits remained everyone else is reset at the end of each episode
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I heard Lisa becoming a vegetarian was a condition for Paul and Lynda McCartney to guest star.
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Paul McCartney is a little bitchboi about vegetarianism he never gave Weird Al Yankovic his blessing to release the parody of "Live and Let Die" called "Chicken Pot Pie" because he said that as a vegetarian he can't condone eating chicken
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Ein cooler Typ posted:it seems weird because Lisa is the only one with character development At the time she was still the smart one who would interject with the cutting and relevant commentary. I got the impression the blasphemy line was meant to be Homer being confronted with a harsh truth, except it makes her sound like an Evangelical weirdo compared to the liberal smarty pants she is the rest of the time? She doesn't seem very conflicted over religion until the Buddhism episode almost a decade later, It's weird.
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khwarezm posted:At the time she was still the smart one who would interject with the cutting and relevant commentary. I got the impression the blasphemy line was meant to be Homer being confronted with a harsh truth, except it makes her sound like an Evangelical weirdo compared to the liberal smarty pants she is the rest of the time? She doesn't seem very conflicted over religion until the Buddhism episode almost a decade later, It's weird. I'm a liberal Smarty Pants, and I wasted way too much time in my youth trying to be Christian
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I'm rewatching the first few seasons and am noticing that celeb cameos were there for a joke - like Larry King reading the Bible on tape. They aren't the plot but an additive to it.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Paul McCartney is a little bitchboi about vegetarianism And Al is a vegetarian too.
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Irradiation posted:And Al is a vegetarian too. Isn't that a more recent thing? Long after McCartney's relevance, anyway?
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Houle posted:I'm rewatching the first few seasons and am noticing that celeb cameos were there for a joke - like Larry King reading the Bible on tape. They aren't the plot but an additive to it. And half the time they are just playing some bit character, not themselves. Jeff Goldblum was Troy McClure's agent who says like 5 lines the whole episode.
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THE BAR posted:Isn't that a more recent thing? Long after McCartney's relevance, anyway? He's been since 92, I dont know when he asked about Live and Let Die though.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I heard Lisa becoming a vegetarian was a condition for Paul and Lynda McCartney to guest star. lmao really
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Irradiation posted:And Al is a vegetarian too. Weird Al became a vegetarian for the only logical reason: thermodynamics not some hippie poo poo about animal rights
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Code Jockey posted:lmao really Yes, they thought it would make vegetarianism look like a fad if it was dropped at the end of the episode. I wonder if Richard Gere demanded she remain Buddhist.
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Irradiation posted:He's been since 92, I dont know when he asked about Live and Let Die though. I'm old and all is dust.
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PostNouveau posted:Yes, they thought it would make vegetarianism look like a fad if it was dropped at the end of the episode. Are Lenny and Carl still Buddhist?
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Paul McCartney is a little bitchboi about vegetarianism drat him for denying the world such art
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he will do it sometimes live at concert but not an album version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-VHKQ0bsY
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well why not posted:I miss how 'bouncy' everything used to be. Look at marge's hair in that comparison. It windmills around like it's another entity. The modern version just looks like a stiff hat. it was animated both figuratively and literally!
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Houle posted:I'm rewatching the first few seasons and am noticing that celeb cameos were there for a joke - like Larry King reading the Bible on tape. They aren't the plot but an additive to it. I think this is when the Simpsons declined. Guest stars were just cameos. They turned into the basis for the plot because it allowed the writers to interject an outside influence to drive things
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Ashmole posted:I think this is when the Simpsons declined. Guest stars were just cameos. They turned into the basis for the plot because it allowed the writers to interject an outside influence to drive things I remember enjoying Beyond Blunderdome despite being weirdly focused on Mel Gibson, it was the portent of the ruin to come.
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Ashmole posted:I think this is when the Simpsons declined. Guest stars were just cameos. They turned into the basis for the plot because it allowed the writers to interject an outside influence to drive things Yeah, the tenth season episode with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger as themselves was meant, I guess, to ham-handedly comment on celebrity culture, but Lord, did it suck. Although it did give us the exchange: Kim Basinger: Can you drive? Ron Howard: Not well. But I'll give it a shot.
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I still think "Oregano- What the hell?" is the best delivered line in the entire series
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Not a Children posted:I still think "Oregano- What the hell?" is the best delivered line in the entire series Eight spices?!?!? Some of these must be duplicates...
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Killswitch posted:Eight spices?!?!? Some of these must be duplicates... There's a season one or two episode where she's using a bunch of different spices in the kitchen and it's retroactively jarring to watch it.
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The secret ingredient is salt!
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Not a Children posted:I still think "Oregano- What the hell?" is the best delivered line in the entire series It seriously is
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Zeniel posted:The secret ingredient is salt!
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Rats?! I'm outraged, you promised me dog or higher!
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Ein cooler Typ posted:it seems weird because Lisa is the only one with character development Barney got sober
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THE BAR posted:Rats?! I'm outraged, you promised me dog or higher! I don't get it. Everyone loves rats, but they won't drink their milk?
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Quote-Unquote posted:I don't get it. Everyone loves rats, but they won't drink their milk? But I drink plenty of...malk?
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brugroffil posted:There's a season one or two episode where she's using a bunch of different spices in the kitchen and it's retroactively jarring to watch it. In an episode in season 20 or so, The one with a crazy house sitter who was Otto's ex. Marge exclaims that she is excited at the prospect of finally finding a use for Rosemary. In season 2, her patented extra special Thursday Porkchops use Rosemary. It's the Itchy and Scratchy censorship episode. Granted I only know this since I am in the middle of rewatching all the episodes. Incidentally I didn't realize how dark, satirical, cynical, and sad season two was. The laughs felt like a relief from all the sad emotions or even thrown in stealthily without the characters missing a beat. Like grandpa Simpson in his ignorance but legitimate sadness "the doctors may have said she died of a burst vetrical, but I know she really died of a broken heart".
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Houle posted:In an episode in season 20 or so, The one with a crazy house sitter who was Otto's ex. Marge exclaims that she is excited at the prospect of finally finding a use for Rosemary. In season 2, her patented extra special Thursday Porkchops use Rosemary. It's the Itchy and Scratchy censorship episode. Granted I only know this since I am in the middle of rewatching all the episodes. in blood feud marge knows that bart is allergic to 'butterscotch and imitation butterscotch' but in a milhouse divided she says she's going to make him butterscotch chicken. marge has munchausen by proxy
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