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Leofish posted:I really think, for as much as the internet has connected people to each other, it's done a lot of damage in our collective ability to have grown-up conversations about complicated issues. I honestly wonder how many people get most of their discourse on contentious issues through comments sections or Facebook. People certainly CAN have reasonable conversations online, but that lack of vocal and body cues really makes a difference, and can lead to misinterpretation, especially if someone isn't an effective writer. This is also far more likely in a conversation with strangers. People are often much more combative with each other in news comments than they would be on a friend's page, for example. i think the bigger problem is adherence to extreme free speech, as in "we won't police the content of speech as that is not our role" as a statement from the admins this is what twitter and reddit were founded on, and look at the emergency steps twitter is taking to dial it back. look at how reddit has a collective freakout every time they ban a child porn subreddit meanwhile something awful, for its many flaws, remains a decent place to have conversations on the internet because the mods actively police speech
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boner confessor posted:i think the bigger problem is adherence to extreme free speech, as in "we won't police the content of speech as that is not our role" as a statement from the admins You only need to look at a handful of examples of ancient graffiti to realize that people have always been bringing down discourse in public forums. The internet just made those spaces bigger and more accessible; it didn't change the nature of the people using them. I'd also agree that a large part of the blame falls on massive public misunderstanding of what free speech as a policy actually means (and how specifically it applies to government actors, rather than all actors.)
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Leofish posted:A good strategy, if not for the fact that some mgtow types like to constantly tell women how little they interact with them. I mean even that MGTOW site that was linked up above, over half the articles/videos are "Look how dumb and bad women are."
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The amount of manufactured outrage over Kellog's changing the artwork on one of their boxes is incredibly sad. So many white guys straining themselves to ignore the racial undertones.
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Keeshhound posted:You only need to look at a handful of examples of ancient graffiti to realize that people have always been bringing down discourse in public forums. The internet just made those spaces bigger and more accessible; it didn't change the nature of the people using them. Admiror parietes vos non cecidisse ruinis qui tot scriptorum taedia sustineatis.
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Oct 26, 2017 19:04
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To the one defecating here. Beware of the curse. If you look down on this curse, may you have an angry Jupiter for an enemy unless you write this message on ten other walls.
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Jurgan posted:No joke, someone blamed this on Wolfenstein, because it planted the idea of other people being Nazis in the father's head.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Glenn Beck just said that grabbing a woman's breasts and forcing them into a kiss, and putting your erect dick on a woman's shoulder are not sexual assault. Source? A family member in Facebook just posted a rant from Beck about how America has become soft because George HW Bush had to apologise for grabbing women's asses.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:37
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Poor Crowder doesn't understand how recommended videos work. https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/923178603470192640
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Thanks for telling me you want to dress up like a lady and shove hundreds of wieners into your mouth, Crowder.
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Crabtree posted:Thanks for telling me you want to dress up like a lady and shove hundreds of wieners into your mouth, Crowder. *sigh* okay... So I was trying to prove to my wife that 12 trans women orgies were a thing, and it took dozens of hours of researching videos to find the perfect one. That’s why I keep getting these targeted ads.
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Crabtree posted:Thanks for telling me you want to dress up like a lady and shove hundreds of wieners into your mouth, Crowder. Well, I mean, who doesn't?
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Love that whoever is on Crowder's side (in the replies to this) is backpedaling to "no, no, it's the Trending tab not the recommendations tab that he's talking about" as if anyone ever looks at the trending tab ever. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Azuth0667 posted:The anonymity has something to do with it too. Any idiot can spout off racist or antisemitic bullshit and not be held accountable for it. I'm not advocating for removing anonymity from the internet but, I attempting to highlight that it is one of the downsides. But they do the exact same thing on Facebook with their name, current job, neighborhood they live in, 5000 pictures and videos of themselves and their homes and cars, all of that poo poo there. They do the exact same thing whether anonymous or so anti-anonymous that a 4 year old could figure out where they are and who they are.
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fishmech posted:But they do the exact same thing on Facebook with their name, current job, neighborhood they live in, 5000 pictures and videos of themselves and their homes and cars, all of that poo poo there. They do the exact same thing whether anonymous or so anti-anonymous that a 4 year old could figure out where they are and who they are. It might not be fully anonymous, but it’s detached enough that people let loose a barrage of poo poo they would be too scared to say to someone’s face. Also, when we collectively decided it’s ok to be a racist piece of poo poo on Facebook and Twitter, people started to feel like there are any consequences to spouting “race realist” and dog whistle screeds on public, online forums.
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RasperFat posted:It might not be fully anonymous, but it’s detached enough that people let loose a barrage of poo poo they would be too scared to say to someone’s face. obviously you've never been a member of a neighborhood fb group
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Cythereal posted:Poor Crowder doesn't understand how recommended videos work. Isn’t this not the first time he’s played himself like this or am I thinking some other 2-bit hack?
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The Muppets On PCP posted:obviously you've never been a member of a neighborhood fb group
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The Muppets On PCP posted:obviously you've never been a member of a neighborhood fb group Fortunately not. Of course there’s still people that are awful in person and with their neighbors, but I’d still say doing it through the computer screen enables more dipshits to be comfortable being bigots.
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Like YouTube has an "agenda" beyond making money and getting people to watch more YouTube.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:obviously you've never been a member of a neighborhood fb group I haven't, all the HOAs I've been saddled with have been full of boomer technophobes.
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Cythereal posted:Poor Crowder doesn't understand how recommended videos work. is this as big a self-own as it looks like to me? I mean nothing wrong with being trans, it's just funny to see a hateful person out themselves. RasperFat posted:It might not be fully anonymous, but it’s detached enough that people let loose a barrage of poo poo they would be too scared to say to someone’s face. If someone's going to do some poo poo, there is a near 0% chance that they will tell you about it on facebook first. If they're gonna pull up and start a fight or shoot at you or whatever they'll just do it. I've been threatened over facebook a bunch of times and not one of them ever followed through.
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Isn't trending just America's got talent and other dumb lowest common denominator poo poo all the time?
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empty whippet box posted:is this as big a self-own as it looks like to me? I mean nothing wrong with being trans, it's just funny to see a hateful person out themselves. In fairness he was probably just looking up trans makeup tips for one his shocking and hilarious exposes where he dresses like a woman and harasses little girls in bathrooms to show how perverted trans people are or something.
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STAC Goat posted:In fairness he was probably just looking up trans makeup tips for one his shocking and hilarious exposes where he dresses like a woman and harasses little girls in bathrooms to show how perverted trans people are or something. And food contests is him probably being ashamed to admit that he watches Chopped while drunk like half of America.
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Rex-Goliath posted:Isn’t this not the first time he’s played himself like this or am I thinking some other 2-bit hack? No, he's done it plenty of times before. Probably the most famous one was where someone called him gay for his constant cross dressing (to own the libs, o course) and he responded with something like "Uh, my preference is for the orifice that I came from, thanks  "Which immediately led to people going "wait, you want to gently caress your mom?"
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No I specifically mean this exact take regarding YouTube recommendations. Can’t remember if it was him or someone else. I had to check the date to make sure it wasn’t from months/a year ago
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STAC Goat posted:I mean, i'm sure his reaction to "those recommendations were catered to your views" was just "No! You're lying!" so its not like he'll learn his lesson or anything. Again right now the prevailing "explanation" was that he was talking about the Trending tab not the Recommended tab
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What I’m seeing on trending: > vlogger blooper reel > celebrity chicks touching icky bugs > something about black holes > VEVO music video > Samantha bee talking about natural disasters > an ad for Amazon key > cartoon about a cat going to the vet > another music video > news caster eats [SPICY] chip > questions for vogue model > Matt Damon does a thing on talk show > how to hack a vending machine At this point I hit ‘Corey’s TRUTH campaign’ which looks like it could be the closest to anything he’s talking about even though it’s a dude in a ball cap looking dopey Idk why I even put in the effort to debunk that bullshit by literally clicking a button but they just can’t help themselves
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Pretty much impossible for videos no one watches to be trending so either he's showing that people love trans makeup vids or he's not looking at the trending tab
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Cythereal posted:Poor Crowder doesn't understand how recommended videos work. Uh... this dumb fucker is aware that YouTube offers a "Not Interested" option on videos and topics that show up on your YT home page, right? Like literally all you have to do is click a button, and *boop* the bad videos are gone and YouTube learns to maybe not recommend them to you any more. It's what I do whenever YouTube tries to hock the output of the roiling horde of alt-right lunatics on me after I watch the odd video or two posted in the YouTube Intellectual Mock Thread out of morbid curiosity. I just go *boop* and the bad videos I don't want to see any more are gone. Christ, Steven Crowder is really gunning for Jim Hoft's coveted "Stupidest Man On The Internet" title, isn't he?
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nine-gear crow posted:Uh... this dumb fucker is aware that YouTube offers a "Not Interested" option on videos and topics that show up on your YT home page, right? Like literally all you have to do is click a button, and *boop* the bad videos are gone and YouTube learns to maybe not recommend them to you any more. It's what I do whenever YouTube tries to hock the output of the roiling horde of alt-right lunatics on me after I watch the odd video or two posted in the YouTube Intellectual Mock Thread out of morbid curiosity. To be fair, it won't do that with the advertised video (at least on mobile), and the advertised video for me is a documentary about a trans woman, but I subscribe to ContraPoints so at least I can figure out why YouTube thinks I might be interested in it.  Also, I don't freak the gently caress out because "Advertised video displeases me!!!"
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nine-gear crow posted:Uh... this dumb fucker is aware that YouTube offers a "Not Interested" option on videos and topics that show up on your YT home page, right? Like literally all you have to do is click a button, and *boop* the bad videos are gone and YouTube learns to maybe not recommend them to you any more. It's what I do whenever YouTube tries to hock the output of the roiling horde of alt-right lunatics on me after I watch the odd video or two posted in the YouTube Intellectual Mock Thread out of morbid curiosity. It's not enough that he doesn't see it, he doesn't want anyone else to either. Well that and he's an incompetent nitwit or possible closeted gay man who doesn't know how the Internet works despite basing his entire existence around making a living off of it.
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This poo poo appeared on youtube as an ad before watching a car review video. Wtf is this poo poo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHXL00wY3nY
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Source? A family member in Facebook just posted a rant from Beck about how America has become soft because George HW Bush had to apologise for grabbing women's asses. I went to get the source and I tuned in late and apparently it's a misunderstanding on my part. He did not say what Mark Halperin did wasn't sexual assault, but when I tuned in made it sound like he said that. He was comparing it to what Bush did and saying "What Bush did isn't sexual assault." So whoops, my bad on that. Should have gotten the full context before I just assumed. Beck's defense of Bush doesn't fully work, he claims that the joke Bush told about his favorite magician being "David Cop-a-feel" is just a dumb joke he tells to lighten the mood and make people feel relaxed, but the joke doesn't make sense unless he's actually copping a feel while he tells it. But to Beck it's just a joke that has nothing to do with anything.
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Twelve by Pies posted:But to Beck it's just a joke that has nothing to do with anything. Yeah, the quote that my family member posted made it sound like he was being forced to apologise for telling a joke, and nothing about grabbing asses. My response to it was that the real shame is Bush has the class to apologise but our current president just thinks it's locker room talk.
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GutBomb posted:This poo poo appeared on youtube as an ad before watching a car review video. THERE was a similar one someone pointed out on Twitter I think talking about gender identify. Basically, I never heard these terms before so they must be made up liberal terms. Just what the gently caress is Preger U?
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