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Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

dude the "ironic puppetmaster" defense is even sadder than the serious puppetmaster defense

Not a defence, it was meant as a joke.

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Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Coolguye posted:

this 'isolation and malaise' is ubiquitous to civilization since cities were founded. the current generation is more fair and egalitarian in terms of fair access to sex partners than any generation since the sumerians were writing on clay tablets. there are thousands of instances of the disproportionate access high class men had to sexual conquests, be it from incan emperors complaining about how many women they had to gently caress on a daily basis or the spread of literacy in middle age europe coming not from better or more accessible education, but from wealthy merchant and crafter families outbreeding the shitfarmers so much that the grandchildren of merchants became shitfarmers (but they could read and write because granddad taught them how).

150 years ago, the supermajority of all humans on the planet never moved more than 50 miles from the place of their birth their entire lives.

gently caress, in the epic of gilgamesh, one of the primary complaints that people loaded up Enkidu with to get him to go fight Gilgamesh was that Gilgamesh had a law that said he had a right to all the hymens in the city. like literally if you married a woman, you had to give her to gilgamesh so he could gently caress her first. Enkidu ended up fighting Gilgamesh but he didn't make him go back on the law because they ended up respecting each other and becoming bros - so gilgamesh continued to go on and be a stand-up awesome guy in the story...who hosed every virgin and literally cuckolded every man in his city because that was his right.

the poo poo that these morons complain about is as old as civilization itself and by any objective measure the problem is smaller and life is more equal today than it has been at any point in history before. like this isn't arguable, it is verifiable fact that being anywhere in the western hemisphere makes you orders of magnitude better off in terms of romantic possibilities than any other time in history, short of being an emperor or other royal.

not that the first word of any of this matters because of the mythical Chad and their negative canthal tilt or whatever the utter gently caress these self-loathing scumsuckers lament.

Clearly Gilgamesh is a Chad, maybe even the Chad.
Do you have any sources about the isolation and malaise stuff throughout history?

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Lol if you ever give up your seat on a rush hour train. No-one is so hot that I'd give up two hours of chill to stand in a mass of elbows and armpits just to talk to them.

:agreed:

hyphz
Aug 5, 2003

Number 1 Nerd Tear Farmer 2022.

Keep it up, champ.

Also you're a skeleton warrior now. Kree.
Unlockable Ben

Fathis Munk posted:

Clearly Gilgamesh is a Chad, maybe even the Chad.

Or just way too entitled.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

fruit on the bottom posted:

'Entitled' is a fairly meaningless word that does not accurately describe most of the incels on this sub or elsewhere on the Internet. On one extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men who literally believe that they should be able to force women to date them. On the other extreme, the word 'entitled' is used to describe men who are merely frustrated or sad that they can't find anyone at all to date them. This type of frustration is reasonable, since sex and romantic relationships are regarded by many as one of the most fulfilling things in life. The problem with using the word 'entitled' for both categories of men is that it lumps them together, demonizing men in the latter category by comparing them to men in the former category. If you wish to criticize our views, please be more specific than merely calling us 'entitled.'

:goonsay:

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
There’s a new site wide rule in effect:

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Admin news: No more violent stuff in flairs or usernames
u/Mental-Out

I’m sure the incel subreddit won’t be an issue, incels aren’t violent peo—

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ForceFetusKingUnoriginal Trash • 1d
In the end everything will become censored on the internet and well never have the freedom we once had. Thanks norman cowards.

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Gorech1ldVolcel bro • 1d
I never thought that we'd go this far, that human civilization would end up begging, wishing, and wanting for a world wherein everything is censored and becomes a "safe space". One day, these censorship-crazed fuckers will realize that you can't censor everything and expect freedom. It's why I personally believe that freedom IS a myth. These fuckers talk about wanting freedom for everyone and everything, but the truth is that all they want is a world where things go there way, where people think exactly them, don't step out of line, don't offend, don't do anything to "hurt" anybody. They want us all to be stiff, soulless, obedient, and most of all they want us all to be "safe" at the cost of freedom itself.

It just makes me even more glad that the muslims are gonna gently caress everything up. All these pussy fuckers who think that they're bringing heaven are wrong. Hell is coming and I can't wait for it. Even if I'm going down, they're coming with us, it'll be glorious, I only wish to see the looks on their face once it all goes down.

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Alia_Harkonnen • 1d
I really can't stand this place anymore. All of it.

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suspension_collector• 1d
Reddit admins have succeeded in making this sub boring as poo poo. If we actually populated voat we could have the old days of angryman411 style posts back but I doubt people will actually move there.

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ukmylyfDrunkcel 🍸• 1d
man this is loving bullshit. These triggered cunts ruin everything. We need a new internet.

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BasedTruecel4Deformed 1/10 Circus Freak • 1d
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY CAN'T HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION!

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cool144• 1d
what ever happenned to the first ammendment? censorship will ruin every site on the internet. reddit, youtube, 4chan, misc have been pushed towards the liberal nu male agenda. the modern male wants to live in a fairytale avoiding anything that challenges their belief that the world is perfect

(a lot are bitching about censorship, which is ironic, because the first steps towards enabling it was approved with the help of the right)

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Fathis Munk posted:

Clearly Gilgamesh is a Chad, maybe even the Chad.

Enkidu was a Wildcel, but sex really did cure him. Mind, it took a whole week of intensive treatment.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
So basically the Gilgamesh tale is the story of how Chad saved the incel with his thundercock. That's pretty hot in a gay porn kind of way.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Literally A Person posted:

So basically the Gilgamesh tale is the story of how Chad saved the incel with his thundercock. That's pretty hot in a gay porn kind of way.

No, it was a Holy Prostitute that saved him.

And then he and Gilgamesh fell in love and had Adventures.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
the first week of sex was with an insanely hot vestal virgin so it wasn't all gay

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

No, it was a Holy Prostitute that saved him.

And then he and Gilgamesh fell in love and had Adventures.


Coolguye posted:

the first week of sex was with an insanely hot vestal virgin so it wasn't all gay

Well now I've lost my interest. Stupid story.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

My Linux Rig posted:

quote:

the modern male wants to live in a fairytale avoiding anything that challenges their belief that the world is perfect

I mean yeah, but that seems to apply to like, south park conservatives and radical centrists more than whoever they think they're criticizing lol

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Fathis Munk posted:

Clearly Gilgamesh is a Chad, maybe even the Chad.
Do you have any sources about the isolation and malaise stuff throughout history?
what part do you want sourced?

like basically this whole book is on the economic subject, but you can get some choice bits starting on page 14. the note about rich people breeding so drat much it brought literacy to the working classes is on page 133.

the biological/sexual part of what i'm talking about has another entire book on the matter by the same author. notes on the polygamous nature of hyper-successful men start on page 170 (chapter 16), where he calls out the quotas powerful men had for 30, 50, or more women in their harems. this comes with the associated note that, hey, there weren't that many more women than men, so for every one noble that existed, another 3-4 dozen men died incel. saying nothing of the emperor himself, who had a harem of 1500 women, and therefore created, pessimistically, 1499 incels. the number is actually lower, because - as pointed out on page 126 - there is an odd quirk that women who suffer from diseases that mark the lower class have more daughters than sons. but not so many more that it would have counteracted the habits of the nobility.

there's way more examples of both throughout both books and each call-out is sourced in the bibliographies at the backs of the books (which are dozens of pages long). i've read much more of this stuff but these books are easy to read, well sourced, well regarded even after being out for a long while, and there are pdfs online that i can link without digging out my kindle copies.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Coolguye posted:

what part do you want sourced?

like basically this whole book is on the economic subject, but you can get some choice bits starting on page 14. the note about rich people breeding so drat much it brought literacy to the working classes is on page 133.

the biological/sexual part of what i'm talking about has another entire book on the matter by the same author. notes on the polygamous nature of hyper-successful men start on page 170 (chapter 16), where he calls out the quotas powerful men had for 30, 50, or more women in their harems. this comes with the associated note that, hey, there weren't that many more women than men, so for every one noble that existed, another 3-4 dozen men died incel. saying nothing of the emperor himself, who had a harem of 1500 women, and therefore created, pessimistically, 1499 incels. the number is actually lower, because - as pointed out on page 126 - there is an odd quirk that women who suffer from diseases that mark the lower class have more daughters than sons. but not so many more that it would have counteracted the habits of the nobility.

there's way more examples of both throughout both books and each call-out is sourced in the bibliographies at the backs of the books (which are dozens of pages long). i've read much more of this stuff but these books are easy to read, well sourced, well regarded even after being out for a long while, and there are pdfs online that i can link without digging out my kindle copies.

im the Portland PUA

e: just to be clear, I'm not commenting on the book because I haven't read it, I just though the link was funny in the context of this thread

SaltyJesus fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Oct 27, 2017

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

SaltyJesus posted:

im the Portland PUA

e: just to be clear, I'm not commenting on the book because I haven't read it, I just though the link was funny in the context of this thread

it's hilarious actually because the book calls PUA bullshit by pointing out that women, in fact, have brains and make real, justifiable decisions

not sure why they'd have that book hosted on their website but WHATEVER

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Now that is just preposterous coolguye

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

noether posted:

I mean yeah, but that seems to apply to like, south park conservatives and radical centrists more than whoever they think they're criticizing lol
I've never met people more angry about free speech than those who don't realize that free speech still means "talk poo poo, get hit."

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

Wow, look at how toxic those normans are, wishing dire and life changing situations to happen to someone just because of some words

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

mind the walrus posted:

I've never met people more angry about free speech than those who don't realize that free speech still means "talk poo poo, get hit."
honestly it feels like none of these guys have ever really had to question their own beliefs in a meaningful way, and they're just starting to encounter opposing narratives now and can't loving handle it

which is hilarious and frustrating because they're always jerking themselves raw over how fragile lefties are

Sentient Data posted:

Wow, look at how toxic those normans are, wishing dire and life changing situations to happen to someone just because of some words

not even just words, words on the internet! you know, that paradise that's completely separate from the real world where everything is pretend and nothing has consequences!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

whats fph?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012


Faps per hour


noether posted:

because they're always jerking themselves raw

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Fat Paople Hate, some banned sub or snother

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
It's okay to hate on women but not on fat folk

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Zzulu posted:

It's okay to hate on women but not on fat folk

dont hate on anyone :shrug:

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
What about nazis

check and mate,

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
i am vanquished

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Zzulu posted:

What about nazis

check and mate,

When they go low you go high

navier-stoked
Aug 30, 2004

quote:

ukmylyfDrunkcel 🍸• 1d
man this is loving bullshit. These triggered cunts ruin everything. We need a new internet.

I can't wait for this guy to build the celnet. Too bad good money is on him being impotent in every possible sense of the word.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Zzulu posted:

It's okay to hate on women but not on fat folk

The specific problem with fat people hate that made Reddit take action instead of free speech handwave was they were organizing "raids" of individual fat people.

You can see how a "raid" of an individual might appear to authorities to be an organized harrasment campaign.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Here’s your weekly reminder that incels are racist as poo poo:

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Curries are the most oblivious incels in the world
u/alsalsk
I'm sorry, but my curry friends at uni who are even ugly by curry standards constantly try to pull 9+ girls. They even have conversation about 7/10s being not good enough for them.

I tried blackpilling them but they just won't bite.

Another curry friend I know thinks he has a chance with a girl in malaysia (we live in aus) by just constantly messaging her. I dont think ive ever seen her reply but he insists it'll work.

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ButterBoobsalt-right misogynist, its over for sub-8 men • 6h
Currycels have a different culture. Caste system, arranged marriage, all that jazz. I often see ugly currycels with hot curry brides. Their society hasn’t been destroyed by feminism yet.

This means that currycels who have grown up in western countries don’t realise it’s over for them.

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F10F624, kissless virgin, friendliest blackpilled incel• 6h
They know. They know full well. They've just built insane self-defense mechanisms in their own brains to distract themselves from their helicopter parents, insane standards placed on themselves to succeed and the fact that they're Indian in a first-world country

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fukmylyfDrunkcel 🍸 • 7h
lol, this is soo true. I think it's because arranged marriage is common in their culture

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Sources: Apu, that dude on The Big Bang Theory, Kumar, saw Slumdog Millionaire once on afternoon cable

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

apu was proven to be a total chad in that bachelor auction

Boof Bonser
Jan 26, 2015

nvj is touched by your generosity!

mind the walrus posted:

Oh my god yes. A lot of incels are so conditioned to believe they're owed a hot girl simply for being able to function at the barest level of societal expectation.

The entitlement is pretty mind-blowing

Boof Bonser
Jan 26, 2015

nvj is touched by your generosity!
These guys all need to get off the computer and begin lifting weights immediately.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Boof Bonser posted:

These guys all need to get off the computer and begin lifting weights immediately.

but then they'll just be gymcels!

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Theyd also be able to overpower women easier...

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Boof Bonser posted:

These guys all need to get off the computer and begin lifting weights immediately.

They'd have to leave their house.

Benny Harvey posted:

Theyd also be able to overpower women easier...

See above.

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.
Going to the gym is cope. So is improving yourself in any way. Getting a girlfriend is cope. Literally everything is cope.

El Padrino
Dec 24, 2005

No es nada personal, solo negocios.
Why arent more of them going for rope then? Is it because they'd have to walk outside to get some?

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burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
I suspect very few incels actually want to die. And that’s not just because it would require something of them.

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