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The Management posted:single camera bokeh continues to be garbage hint: your bokeh will never look "good" unless it is shot with an aps-c or larger sensor
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these bokeh lynchings have gone too far
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Oct 27, 2017 09:57
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atomicthumbs posted:hint: your bokeh will never look "good" unless it is shot with an aps-c or larger sensor it is pretty mind blowing seeing people try to defend the various fake depth of field effects as "good" someone posted this for example:  yeah those columns look great sure.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:16
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Blue Train posted:The study from mobile defense specialist Skycure analyzed patch updates among the five leading wireless carriers in the US and finds that 71 percent of mobile devices still run on security patches more than two months old. honestly 29% being less than 2 months out of date is way better than id have guessed
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Oct 27, 2017 12:43
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yeah, it is a weird fascination manufacturers has with something that at best competes with novelty snapchat filters for usefulness dual camera setups luckily good for other things as well, so one just has to, as always, avoid internet reviewer opinions about that gimmick aspect of them
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Oct 27, 2017 12:44
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atomicthumbs posted:hint: your bokeh will never look "good" unless it is shot with an aps-c or larger sensor paging pagancow
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Oct 27, 2017 14:28
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Shifty Pony posted:it is pretty mind blowing seeing people try to defend the various fake depth of field effects as "good" no surprise that someone who thinks that shot’s garbage composition looks good also thinks its fake bokeh looks good too.
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Oct 27, 2017 14:56
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yeah a lot of the example fake bokeh pics I have seen from the pixel 2 look like loving poo poo and don't even make any physical sense, but since it seems like normies and/or verge editors don't notice or care, we can expect to have to endure it for the next several years
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Oct 27, 2017 17:34
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The Management posted:single camera bokeh continues to be garbage My DSLR can do this any time all of the time.
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Oct 27, 2017 17:36
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The Management posted:single camera bokeh continues to be garbage the one on the left is what the ghost entering our plane of existence looked like to the naked eye
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Oct 27, 2017 17:44
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akadajet posted:My DSLR can do this any time all of the time. and it even fits in the pocket of most standard-sized cargo jorts
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Oct 27, 2017 18:17
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lol at carrying a phablet for any reason, let alone for cheap camera tricks
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Oct 27, 2017 18:25
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Shifty Pony posted:it is pretty mind blowing seeing people try to defend the various fake depth of field effects as "good" cum-smeared pictures, now a software feature in anroid
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Oct 27, 2017 18:27
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it was dumb because bluetooth/wifi and awkward form factor but those clip on cameras sony made had some minor merit to them, you could get one with a 1" sensor and stabilized F1.8 lens
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Oct 27, 2017 18:33
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carry on then posted:and it even fits in the pocket of most standard-sized cargo jorts lol if u don't go everywhere with a giant dslr swinging from your neck
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Oct 27, 2017 18:39
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any phone larger than 5.2" is a phablet any phone 6" and up is a tablet
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Oct 27, 2017 19:06
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what's bokeh? i thought it was the hexagons in old film but i dont see it in those pics 
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Oct 27, 2017 19:30
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what's bokeh? i thought it was the hexagons in old film but i dont see it in those pics blurry background, foreground in focus
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Oct 27, 2017 19:39
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isn't that just depth of field? i never heard the term "bokeh" during my photography degree.
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broken? I thought it was hexagon
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"bokeh" refers to the specific blur that out-of-focus stuff has. it isn't depth-of-field or "background out of focus, foreground in focus" (that's just called shallow depth-of-field). different lenses have different bokeh qualities, depending on stuff like how many blades the aperture has. if out of focus stuff looks hexagon-ish with your lens, it's because the aperture only has 6 blades. bokeh is hard to fake (especially in real time) because it isn't just a "normal" blur like a box or gaussian blur. with a normal blur, bright objects get blended into their surrounding objects and become less bright, whereas in real photography, bright objects that are out of focus appear to expand. the best post-processing bokeh effects also simulate aperture blades and stuff like that. the iphone+ models and now the pixel 2 try to simulate shallow depth of field by adding fake bokeh. devices with two cameras will be able to do a better job of it, because they'll be able to build a depth map. but the requirement that it be real-time or close to real-time means that the effect still isn't that convincing, and without a really accurate depth map (which you can't get with cameras only a centimeter apart) there are a lot of situations where the fake shallow depth of field effect just falls over completely. Doc Block fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 20:57
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Doc Block posted:"bokeh" refers to the specific blur that out-of-focus stuff has. it isn't depth-of-field or "background out of focus, foreground in focus" (that's just called shallow depth-of-field). otoh it's a pleasing effect that you can fake well enough for viewing on a tiny screen and you don't have to lug around an SLR the size of a truck transmission
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Doc Block posted:"bokeh" refers to the specific blur that out-of-focus stuff has. it isn't depth-of-field or "background out of focus, foreground in focus" (that's just called shallow depth-of-field). Sweet, thanks for the info. I only did a minor and focused mostly on nighttime long exposure shots so I'm not as intimately familiar with low depth of field stuff.
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Oct 27, 2017 21:29
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Doc Block posted:fake bokeh i dont even have a fake bokeh accout
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fauxkeh
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Oct 27, 2017 21:38
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is it impossible to do real bokeh with smartphones? my nexus 5 actually has an f/2 lens, which would give you great blurries if it was a piece of SLR glass
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Oct 27, 2017 22:25
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by "real bokeh" do you mean "have stuff be out of focus"? then yes. shallow depth of field? not for anything that isn't really close to the lens.
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yeah the sensor sizes on phones stops you getting anything like real depth of field, they equivalently scale to somewhere between f8 and f11 on a dslr from memory. the dual lens thing is a fun way of working around the limitation.
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Oct 27, 2017 23:13
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This is also why you need faster glass to get equivalent depth of field on crop sensor versus full frame cameras. Phones have absolutely tiny sensors, so depth of field is huge, which isn't always a bad thing.
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Oct 28, 2017 00:30
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Dislike button posted:i dont even have a fake bokeh accout
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Oct 28, 2017 01:03
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did anyone say bokeh haram yet? because i'm gonna, if not
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Oct 28, 2017 01:13
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syscall girl posted:did anyone say bokeh haram yet? poasting from my brand new chomebook
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bokeh raton
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Oct 28, 2017 04:23
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measuring for depth of field for my bolex as a young man
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syscall girl posted:bokeh haram
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:“impressive bokeh of poo poo” mods namechange plz
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So my nexus 4 finally died, touchscreen went haywire. I think i can see the screen coming away from the glass internally around where the problem area seems to be  Posting from a friend's discarded nexus 5 which seems to have random microphone doesn't work during calls issues. And you all have me so confused now about what i should buy as a replacement
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Crazy Achmed posted:So my nexus 4 finally died, touchscreen went haywire. I think i can see the screen coming away from the glass internally around where the problem area seems to be an iphone se
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