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what lever can I pull to run over Rupi Kaur actually, don't worry about it; based on her social media presence, which is to say a Tiptree-level "girl who was plugged in" pissing and making GBS threads in a multimedia booth kind of presence, I'm sure one of her confederates will tell her that someone said "someone speculated about running you over with a trolley on Something Awful" and she'll be like wheels running over my body my valuable inclusive experience totally smushed rice-a-roni NOT the san francisco treat
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Inescapable Duck posted:Never seen trolley problem pictures/parodies before? Hoo boy. oh yes i have, very much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_RZJUAQY4 ignore the obvious cut. we're all good
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trolley problems trolley wheels trolling my terrible book thread not my terrible books because my books are fantastic --its me i wrote this just now
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Inescapable Duck posted:Never seen trolley problem pictures/parodies before? Hoo boy. Why do I feel like my life is not the worse for it?
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Brass Key posted:Saw this and thought of this thread. Just put a quarter on the rails, derailing the whole train and saving everyone. Except the conducter. Wait is it a commuter train? gently caress man, I don't know.
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the conductor is an innocent captive in our hellish game. he has no agency much like in real life passengers also but even less agency
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Powaqoatse posted:trolley problems Burma-Shave.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Never seen trolley problem pictures/parodies before? Hoo boy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHI2QV_-mF0&t=80s
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Burma-Shave.
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Things learned from english class in school: loving nothing is good when you have everyone alternate reading it out loud. NOTHING.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Things learned from english class in school: loving nothing is good when you have everyone alternate reading it out loud. NOTHING. I disagree - having a senior school class ham their way through Juliet’s argument with Papa Capulet is a lot of fun. All it takes is one person willing to inject a little enthusiasm.
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Powaqoatse posted:the conductor is an innocent captive in our hellish game. A lie. He could stop the trolley and save all, but chooses not to. No matter the choice we fulfill his lust for blood.
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Darth Walrus posted:I disagree - having a senior school class ham their way through Juliet’s argument with Papa Capulet is a lot of fun. "Fetch me my sword, ho!" will never not be funny.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Things learned from english class in school: loving nothing is good when you have everyone alternate reading it out loud. NOTHING.
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Tiggum posted:My English teacher when we were reading Romeo and Juliet wouldn't correct anyone's pronunciation (or other mistakes). Like, at all. I'd understand not interrupting someone mid-sentence, but when most of the class is consistently saying "though" instead of "thou" and clearly not understanding what they're reading, what is even the point? Reading anything with a class was a pain because no effort was made to get the kids to understand what they read beyond telling them what it meant in plainer words. I only understood the Shakespeare because I was a Drama Club kid who acted in 3 Shakespeare plays during high school.
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chitoryu12 posted:Reading anything with a class was a pain because no effort was made to get the kids to understand what they read beyond telling them what it meant in plainer words. This is also a much more effective sex ed program than what most schools trot out.
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We should teach kids Romeos and Juliets instead. Pretty sure they'd dig it.
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Our drama teacher had us watch the Julie Taymor adaptation of Titus Andronicus. That was hilarious.
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Barudak posted:This is also a much more effective sex ed program than what most schools trot out. Shakespeare or being in Drama Club? Because those were some horny motherfuckers.
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Tiggum posted:My English teacher when we were reading Romeo and Juliet wouldn't correct anyone's pronunciation (or other mistakes). Like, at all. I'd understand not interrupting someone mid-sentence, but when most of the class is consistently saying "though" instead of "thou" and clearly not understanding what they're reading, what is even the point? Doesn't really matter since rather little in Shakespeare was pronounced the way it's pronounced nowadays anyway. Half the rhymes don't work anymore.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Doesn't really matter since rather little in Shakespeare was pronounced the way it's pronounced nowadays anyway. Half the rhymes don't work anymore. It's not about the sound of it, it's about the fact that if you think "thou" means "though" then you obviously have no idea what the words you're saying mean.
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Tiggum posted:It's not about the sound of it, it's about the fact that if you think "thou" means "though" then you obviously have no idea what the words you're saying mean. I've read Shakespeare and not known what most of the stuff means even when I do know what the words mean (to me). That's why there's annotations. I mean straight-up reading out Shakespeare in class has literally zero pedagogical value in any case so I'm not exactly disagreeing with you. I think.
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Annotations should be like half a class on Shakespeare. Especially since there's so many sex jokes you have to explain. Titus Andronicus also has a Your Mom joke.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Annotations should be like half a class on Shakespeare. Especially since there's so many sex jokes you have to explain. The reason Shakespeare is so god drat boring is that you've literally heard or seen the material (including jokes) in variations a million times in later works. He's not the only old artist with this problem of course but he's one of the most used.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Annotations should be like half a class on Shakespeare. Especially since there's so many sex jokes you have to explain. Pretty much any literature from a prior century is going to be reliant on annotations. Contemporary writers from all eras write for an audience that will understand the technology, culture, and language without needing to be told what it is even though all of that will become moot within 100 years or so. Shakespeare's writing was just as full of pop culture, wordplay, and unstated cultural references as anything from the modern day, and that unfortunately makes it impossible to understand without extensive explanation of everything. I think the only reason Shakespeare is seemingly so dense compared to older stuff like Gilgamesh or Beowulf is because Shakespeare wrote in a form of English that's sufficiently close to modern that everyone tries to read the original text with a standardized spelling, whereas anything written in a foreign language gets translated into modern English for ease of understanding. In middle school I had a book that was Romeo & Juliet with the original text on one page and a modern English "translation" on the opposite page, which is incredibly helpful. My 12th grade English class tried to go one step further and do The Canterbury Tales. If you haven't taken a class in Middle English first, you're going to be squinting from the first paragraph. chitoryu12 has a new favorite as of 15:42 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:The reason Shakespeare is so god drat boring is that you've literally heard or seen the material (including jokes) in variations a million times in later works. He's not the only old artist with this problem of course but he's one of the most used.
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chitoryu12 posted:Shakespeare or being in Drama Club? Because those were some horny motherfuckers. Drama club. It operates on all the same rules as fight club but with the word gently caress instead of fight.
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chitoryu12 posted:My 12th grade English class tried to go one step further and do The Canterbury Tales. If you haven't taken a class in Middle English first, you're going to be squinting from the first paragraph.  Looks perfectly readable to me  (Yes, I know Wizards of the Coast specifically picked something readable to put on their trash garbage card, etc.) Barudak posted:Drama club. It operates on all the same rules as fight club but with the word gently caress instead of fight.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Our drama teacher had us watch the Julie Taymor adaptation of Titus Andronicus. That was hilarious. Excellent choice.
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Tiggum posted:My English teacher when we were reading Romeo and Juliet wouldn't correct anyone's pronunciation (or other mistakes). Like, at all. I'd understand not interrupting someone mid-sentence, but when most of the class is consistently saying "though" instead of "thou" and clearly not understanding what they're reading, what is even the point? Inescapable Duck posted:Our drama teacher had us watch the Julie Taymor adaptation of Titus Andronicus. That was hilarious. I feel like these are opposite ends of a teaching competence scale.
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Tiggum posted:Also, if you're reading them, that is not how you're supposed to enjoy a play. Like, you don't read screenplays as an alternative to watching movies because that would be dumb. But for some reason people expect plays to work as novels, and they don't. My teacher had us get up and act them out, at least as well as we could while literally holding the books. That kinda worked.
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Darth Walrus posted:I disagree - having a senior school class ham their way through Juliet’s argument with Papa Capulet is a lot of fun. No. It doesn't. Because that's people reading out a play, that can work fine! People alternate parts, not just reading giant loving hunks of text and swapping to the next person in line after an arbitrary number of pages. Example: Wuthering Heights. Imagine this. There's always some fucker who can only read in a dead monotone. There's always someone who doesn't know what words mean and you have to stop and explain to them that crocuses are flowers and that hanging that basket of puppies was killing them not... whatever the hell they thought it meant. There's always someone who reads in a perfectly perky and cheerful telephone voice even if people are being murdered in the text. The latter was enthusiastic, but it killed the words being said just as much as monotone man. The same class did Twelfth Night next because we wanted to actually IRL die after reading aloud A Tale of Two Cities and Wuthering Heights. We did it on the little stage at school when the auditorium was empty, and it was fun. People could be assigned to roles that fit their gigantic reading disabilities. (Monotone Guy got a part with few lines. Overly cheerful girl got an airhead noblewoman. People who knew what words were got the longer parts. etc.) Speaking of which, my all-time terrible book: gently caress Wuthering Heights. I said that every character in the book without exception was loathsome and unlikeable and the teacher goes "Oh well there's actually a theory that this is because the maid was in love with Heathcliff and she's an unreliable narrator!" YEAH THAT DOESN'T HELP. That just means it was miserable and a waste of my time on top of that.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Speaking of which, my all-time terrible book: gently caress Wuthering Heights. I said that every character in the book without exception was loathsome and unlikeable
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We spent way too many English classes reading out loud from a novel, switching readers every page. What a waste of teaching hours that was. I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy To Kill a Mocking Bird. Being that it was ESL, I'm sure the teachers would argue that it was to get us to practice speaking English, but then most of the students were native English speakers whose parents had sent them to French high school for ~immersion~.
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the old ceremony posted:tiptree was completely loving insane and i love her She's one of my all-time favorite authors, and her biography is right alongside her fiction as being an extremely wild and heartbreaking ride.
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FrozenVent posted:I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy To Kill a Mocking Bird. Man, that legit sucks. To Kill a Mockingbird is an amazing novel, and one I love to death 
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FrozenVent posted:We spent way too many English classes reading out loud from a novel, switching readers every page. What a waste of teaching hours that was. I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy To Kill a Mocking Bird. My French classes in high school had a native French speaker in them! He was born and raised for a good chunk of his life in France and still had a French accent, and he could speak conversational French around the house perfectly. He was basically learning the language theory at that point.
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