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BrianBoitano posted:On beginner AI Let me stop you right there.
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No Wave posted:I don't understand ranked. Sometimes you have games where everyone knows what they're doing more or less, and other times a Sonya goes ballistic because someone chose Lili as a second support (against Raynor + Zul'jin) on Haunted Mines, writing "why double support???" all game. Baffling. Don't pick two supports in a double warrior comp. I'm with Sonya.
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Oct 29, 2017 04:57
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JayMax posted:Don't pick two supports in a double warrior comp. I'm with Sonya. You could remove all of Li Li's abilities except her E and she'd still be better than most picks against Raynor+Zul'Jin.
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Oct 29, 2017 05:05
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JayMax posted:Don't pick two supports in a double warrior comp. I'm with Sonya. Valla Lucio Sonya Garrosh Their picks: Raynor Zuljin Ana Muradin Leoric (no order on these) I don't know why I posted this. I don't think you really get what Sonya or Lili's roles in a comp actually are. No Wave fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Oct 29, 2017 05:18
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Cuatal posted:I love when I'm second support as Li Li so I can go DPS. Li Li's damage builds are pretty strong and she can still offer a lot of healing. Taking Cups and going Blinding Wind is a great build too if you need the extra healing. My favorite thing about Li Li is that she's immortal and can't be killed. They certainly didn't mention THAT during Mists of Pandaria!
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Oct 29, 2017 05:22
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JayMax posted:Don't pick two supports in a double warrior comp. I'm with Sonya. https://esports.heroesofthestorm.com/en/matches/9964/ce-vs-tempo-storm Warhead Junction CE: Brightwing, Tassadar, Tracer, Johanna, Illidan Tempostorm: Li Li, Sonya, Muradin, Auriel, Valla Valla barely beat Sonya on hero damage.
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Oct 29, 2017 06:00
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Doesn't seem that crazy. Sonya has the ability to get in there with Tracer/Illi blinded by Lili, but Valla is similarly curtailed by Joh's blinds.
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Oct 29, 2017 07:31
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My rule of thumb is; if someone is criticizing a comp and uses the words Warrior, Assassin, Specialist or Support, I stop taking them seriously. A bit the same as if someone were lecturing me about chemistry and they suddenly start talking about the 4 basic elements.
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Oct 29, 2017 10:39
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Macaluso posted:My favorite thing about Li Li is that she's immortal and can't be killed. They certainly didn't mention THAT during Mists of Pandaria! I mean you can't murder her in that game either so they technically did. 
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Oct 29, 2017 14:38
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They should rework Li Li so she doesn't have mana but instead charges up a Fast Feet meter by running hither and thither.
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Oct 29, 2017 14:39
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Gustav posted:My rule of thumb is; if someone is criticizing a comp and uses the words Warrior, Assassin, Specialist or Support, I stop taking them seriously. A bit the same as if someone were lecturing me about chemistry and they suddenly start talking about the 4 basic elements. Sir I believe you may have inhaled some noxious vapors which have caused an excess of yellow bile in your body. may I recommend a tea of chamomile and arsenic to balance your humors
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Oct 29, 2017 16:13
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How do I play Junkrat hes my favorite trashboy.
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Oct 30, 2017 03:54
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Prob just like do whatever you want and when you are in danger of dying just use your mobility skill to leave the fight, like 90% of the overwatch heroes
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Oct 30, 2017 04:22
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i sure love shitposting
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Oct 30, 2017 04:46
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Schneider Inside Her posted:Prob just like do whatever you want and when you are in danger of dying just use your mobility skill to leave the fight, like 90% of the overwatch heroes Muradin is my favorite Overwatch hero
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Oct 30, 2017 04:46
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What was that site that people suggested for talent builds that wasn't icy-veins? I think Grubby started it?
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Oct 30, 2017 04:50
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Cuntellectual posted:What was that site that people suggested for talent builds that wasn't icy-veins? I think Grubby started it? robogrub. not the super most up to date, but still pretty good.
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Oct 30, 2017 04:55
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Cuntellectual posted:What was that site that people suggested for talent builds that wasn't icy-veins? I think Grubby started it?
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Oct 30, 2017 04:58
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Gobbeldygook posted:I always limit my results to Master+Diamond league. A newbie mistake. 
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Oct 30, 2017 05:09
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Gobbeldygook posted:Grubby has a site of talent builds but it's currently down. McIntyre has a page with builds for every hero and usually some brief notes on how to play, sometimes a video too. If you go to the hero detail page on Hotslogs you can see the most popular talents. I always limit my results to Master+Diamond league. wow i love a site that completely prevents me from using it because i have adblock  (hotslogs btw)
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Oct 30, 2017 07:36
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Schneider Inside Her posted:Prob just like do whatever you want and when you are in danger of dying just use your mobility skill to leave the fight, like 90% of the overwatch heroes drat, I didn't know Tassadar was an overwatch Hero.
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Oct 30, 2017 07:58
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Kerrrrrrr posted:wow i love a site that completely prevents me from using it because i have adblock Throw this in your ublock "My Filters" section and it should stop it: code:
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Oct 30, 2017 08:10
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Kerrrrrrr posted:wow i love a site that completely prevents me from using it because i have adblock ublock works fine, didn't even know the site ever had an ad.
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Oct 30, 2017 10:11
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Kyrosiris posted:Throw this in your ublock "My Filters" section and it should stop it: This doesn't work for me.
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Oct 30, 2017 14:20
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The worst thing is when people immediately block chat and then don't have a single loving clue what they're doing but you can't even give them suggestions. Junkrat, you are the only person on our team even remotely capable of outpushing their murky, you should be doing that instead of slowly soloing camps while he pushes in our keep! 
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Oct 30, 2017 17:12
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The Shortest Path posted:The worst thing is when people immediately block chat and then don't have a single loving clue what they're doing but you can't even give them suggestions. Junkrat, you are the only person on our team even remotely capable of outpushing their murky, you should be doing that instead of slowly soloing camps while he pushes in our keep! If they don't see something like that and respond instead of loving around at camps they were just going to call you a human being if you typed in chat about it and continue to gently caress around at camps. There is nothing you can put in chat that will benefit anyone but someone who is already looking at the minimap and trying to play with their team.
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Oct 30, 2017 17:31
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Junkrat is such a god-awful jungler. Blows my mind someone would be trying to solo camps with him.
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Oct 30, 2017 17:38
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PantsBandit posted:Junkrat is such a god-awful jungler. Blows my mind someone would be trying to solo camps with him. Had a Kael die trying to solo mercs the other day. This is like 2200 QM MMR.
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Oct 30, 2017 17:40
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PantsBandit posted:Junkrat is such a god-awful jungler. Blows my mind someone would be trying to solo camps with him. He can easily solo camps once he gets the volley ability
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Oct 30, 2017 17:45
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Jaina with the piercing talent, cooldown talent, and shields talent is insane at taking camps. That was definitely a big surprise for me.
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Oct 30, 2017 17:48
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Macaluso posted:He can easily solo camps once he gets the volley ability I almost never take spread volley anymore. It's decent for burst in tight areas but if you're out in the open most of the extra grenades just sail by your enemies. Plus endless nades is just so much better for sustained damage.
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Oct 30, 2017 17:54
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Junkrat has a 5% spread between his QM and HL win rate, which is enormous and quite unusual (the butcher's spread is only 2.7%). No idea why.
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Oct 30, 2017 18:02
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I learned the hard way that Stukov makes tank Varian very sad and deceased. Had a team that ran around in a deathball tear us apart repeatedly by using push/pull/shove moves and forcing anyone willing to engage into the AOE silence. My Varian did not survive long when unable to Parry.
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Oct 30, 2017 18:50
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No Wave posted:Junkrat has a 5% spread between his QM and HL win rate, which is enormous and quite unusual (the butcher's spread is only 2.7%). No idea why. Master: 42.9% Diamond: 45% Platinum: 43.2% Gold: 41% Silver: 42.2% Bronze: 35.5% Ana's winrates were similarly dire for a while but eventually everyone learned to play her. Whether Junkrat's an actually good hero like Kel-thuzad or actually garbage like Chen is unclear. Incidentally, starting tomorrow Ana is in the free rotation so her QM (Butcher is also free) and probably HL winrates are going to crater.
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Oct 30, 2017 19:12
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I was commenting on the spread mostly. Most people I see play him like absolute garbage, he's a hero you have to be really patient with... ideally you play from far away and get a really good conc displacement a few times to decide a fight, but most players get way too close and rocket ride out of the fight as soon as they're at half health. I don't think his win rate is indicative of his power level... the spread I was pointing out is weird given how fragile he is and how bad you'd expect the QM meta to be for him (Nova, Valeera, and Tracer should give him a very rough time)
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Oct 30, 2017 19:25
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it feels wrong to call the prevalence of idiot heroes like nova, valeera, and tracer in QM a "meta"
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Oct 30, 2017 19:33
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It's a short and convenient word, not sure how to communicate it more efficiently. It does inform what I'm likely to queue into QM for what it's worth. The 'Zad is a no-go and Jaina is questionable.
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Oct 30, 2017 19:57
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No Wave posted:I was commenting on the spread mostly. Which is doubly funny because in Overwatch Junkrat eats Tracer alive and is a huge pain for the game’s stealth hero
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Oct 30, 2017 20:07
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Junkrat is almost opposite to his OW implementation. He does slower and somewhat reliable sustained damage in HotS whereas in OW it's instakill ridiculous but unreliable DPS that encourages him to get up close. Very happy they took more creative freedoms this time.
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No Wave posted:Junkrat has a 5% spread between his QM and HL win rate, which is enormous and quite unusual (the butcher's spread is only 2.7%). No idea why. Working As Intended
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