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Oct 30, 2017 22:48
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Jeb! Repetition posted:How can you say something like "empty, cowardly moralizing" and not realize you're being a villain. how can you say nazis should have been allowed to beat the poo poo out of a bunch of preachers in charlottesville because the alternative is giving your tummy the rumblies, and not realize you are the villain
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Oct 30, 2017 22:52
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Jeb! Repetition posted:No, I'm saying it's hypocritical to say something is violence, therefore it must be stopped with violence. Self defense is not violence
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Oct 30, 2017 22:52
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Ze Pollack posted:how can you say nazis should have been allowed to beat the poo poo out of a bunch of preachers in charlottesville because the alternative is giving your tummy the rumblies, and not realize you are the villain Or beat the poo poo out of a couple for the very fact of their existance
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Oct 30, 2017 22:53
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Dreddout posted:Or beat the poo poo out of a couple for the very fact of their existance "that doesn't count," -Jeb! Repetition, literally on the last page.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:54
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bububububuut They've barely done anything and what they have done wouldn't have been stopped more effectively with violence anyway.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:55
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the couple should have explained how not beating them up was more favorable to the market. nazis are rational individuals and would have understood.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:58
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Oct 30, 2017 22:58
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Cerebral Bore posted:Remember when Jeb started arguing that black and jewish clergymembers didn't count as people because he refused to believe that antifa could ever lead to anything good? I did not, in fact, argue that. Crane Fist posted:Because we're actual adults with a fully developed sense of right and wrong so we don't have to rely on children's cartoon morality - everyone who wanted to invade Iraq, or really do any other evil thing Ze Pollack posted:how can you say nazis should have been allowed to beat the poo poo out of a bunch of preachers in charlottesville because the alternative is giving your tummy the rumblies, and not realize you are the villain They shouldn't have been and I'm glad they weren't.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:02
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True.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:03
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Jeb! Repetition posted:- everyone who wanted to invade Iraq, or really do any other evil thing Actually this was more like everyone who wanted to invade Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor was bombed.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:05
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yo bruh. The not doing anything is the actual evil.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:08
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Ruzihm posted:Actually this was more like everyone who wanted to invade Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor was bombed. "Morality is gray, don't be childish" is the same argument used to justify some of the most evil things people have done, including recently and perhaps most memorably, torture.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:09
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I did not, in fact, argue that. “Punching Nazis is the same kind of evil as invading a sovereign nation and toppling its government.” —Jeb!
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Oct 30, 2017 23:10
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sneakyfrog posted:yo bruh. The not doing anything is the actual evil. - another argument that was used to invade Iraq
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Oct 30, 2017 23:10
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Jeb! Repetition posted:"Morality is gray, don't be childish" is the same argument used to justify some of the most evil things people have done, including recently and perhaps most memorably, torture. i agree with this i also think that antifa is good
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Oct 30, 2017 23:11
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jeb! is a mess Jeb! is a waste.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:13
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ok well glad your moral high horse is able to ignore small atrocities so we can all be civil and you can feel good and lecture people about what they should tolerate.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:15
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sneakyfrog posted:ok well glad your moral high horse is able to ignore small atrocities so we can all be civil and you can feel good and lecture people about what they should tolerate. He's made it clear that, until people are being literally stripped of their citizenship and herded onto cattle cars, it's not really anything to get worked up about and use of force prior to that point is immoral and hypocritical. It is a breathtakingly myopic position available only to those who, deep down, fear resurgent Nazism less than they do antifascist street resistance.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:19
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Jeb! Repetition posted:"Morality is gray, don't be childish" is the same argument used to justify some of the most evil things people have done, including recently and perhaps most memorably, torture. that's funny because that's exactly the thesis of the post u quoted Crane Fist posted:Because we're actual adults with a fully developed sense of right and wrong so we don't have to rely on children's cartoon morality if u are against all kinds of violence, i have bad news for u because the threat of violence is the cornerstone of all law & punishment in our society. Violence must be contextualized in order to examine its morality. Example: Is violence against someone presently raping someone else permissible? Yes, of course! Your claim of "all violence is immoral  " is a childish oversimplification.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:22
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Captain_Maclaine posted:He's made it clear that, until people are being literally stripped of their citizenship and herded onto cattle cars, it's not really anything to get worked up about and use of force prior to that point is immoral and hypocritical. It is a breathtakingly myopic position available only to those who, deep down, fear resurgent Nazism less than they do antifascist street resistance. THC posted:by the time libs are ready to give their permission to punch nazis the pogroms will be in full swing already and it'll be too late too do anything about it
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Oct 30, 2017 23:24
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violence is force. Thats kinda why the state likes a monopoly on it. they are very reluctant to reveal that the public trust really doesnt exist except for cis wealthy white men.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:25
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Jeb: Nazis shouldn't be able to terrorize people for having the wrong skin color. Also Jeb: Whoa there, are you trying to stop nazis from terrorizing people for having the wrong skin color? Don't you know that makes you the villain?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:29
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drat was jeb repetition trash this whole time and i just wasn't paying attention?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:32
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the only moral guide you need is the Legend of Terror Billy: always be shooting, stabbing, and strangling Nazis
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Oct 30, 2017 23:33
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Serf posted:drat was jeb repetition trash this whole time and i just wasn't paying attention? this is like the fifth loving time weve had the same argument
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Oct 30, 2017 23:33
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seriously. just garbage.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:34
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i make sure to punch 2 nazis to make up for Jeb! Repetition
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Oct 30, 2017 23:38
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if youre gonna whatabout interracial couples getting attacked in the streets that means you are going to collaborate with any level of white nationalism
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Oct 30, 2017 23:41
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deplatform jeb! repetition from this thread
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Oct 30, 2017 23:41
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he got that nootropics stare
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Oct 30, 2017 23:44
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thats not even mentioning the fact that interracial couples were regularly attacked in the streets until recently
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Oct 30, 2017 23:45
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IMO the only moral position is to dump Jeb! Repetition into a trash can head first, and roll him down the longest hill in San Francisco.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:55
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Assaulting some powerless idiot who spent too much time on 4chan is not stopping those things. What about a group of people who are harrassing, but not physically attacking, an interracial couple? Would it be appropriate in your mind to assault them? Would you stand by and watch that happen?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:59
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Guys it's cool I've changed my mind, check out this officially sanctioned Jeb! Repetition effective alternative to actually confronting Nazism with violence.The Kingfish posted:What about a group of people who are harrassing, but not physically attacking, an interracial couple? Would it be appropriate in your mind to assault them? Would you stand by and watch that happen? You, a fool, an utter lackwit: It is morally acceptable to use force to defend the oppressed, particularly against literal attacks and street harassment by Nazis. Jeb! Repetition, a sage, wise beyond mortal ken: Ah, but what if some of those Nazis were actually merely Nazis sympathizers? Who's the real monster now? Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 00:03 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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Oct 31, 2017 00:00
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have you alt left idiots ever considered that maybe the nazis were exterminating people ironically
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Oct 31, 2017 00:08
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Please put Jeb! Repetition on ignore. You'll all be happier for it.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:10
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eyes any closer hed be a cyclops
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Oct 31, 2017 00:31
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Never Punch a Nazi I did, and now every full moon I get the urge to put on a white polo shirt and carry a tiki torch while chanting about "Blood and Soul." I fear that it is only a matter of time before someone punches me and the curse spreads.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:52
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The Kingfish posted:What about a group of people who are harrassing, but not physically attacking, an interracial couple? Would it be appropriate in your mind to assault them? Would you stand by and watch that happen? This isn't a rhetorical question jeb!
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