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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Customers that assume the price of a connection is related to the speed are always fun. Yes, your home broadband is faster and cheaper than the leased line in the office. That's just how it is sometimes.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

wolrah posted:

I just finally got rid of a customer who constantly did this. They were out in a building formerly owned by Lockheed near the old Goodyear blimp hangar and until literally this year when Time Warner finally was willing to bring a fiber down the street the best they could get were bonded T1s.

Story 1: Network admin for a company for 9 months. Dual T1's coming into a 200 person office for internet access, saturated 100% all day. 5-6 branch offices all connected via T1's (only 4-10 people at these).

"It's the best we can get"

When's the last time you tried?

"A few years ago"

Called up AT&T and had fiber ran in a month. Of course, they went with the slowest speeds they could get, but people could at least use the internet.

wolrah posted:

They'd pretend to understand, then call up a month later complaining that when they send pictures in email the internet becomes unusable for minutes on end.

Story 2:

Took a job as a web developer at a small company. This was all the company did, develop sites for health-related firms and products.

They had a 768k/5mb DSL connection at their office. To make things even better, they had their staging/testing database and web servers on the outside of the DSL modem, so just connecting to loving MySQL Workbench took 15 seconds. Pushing a build out to test took almost an hour.

Also, when anyone in graphics design sent a logo or something to a printing company, the network was rendered useless for 45 minutes.

Built a monowall box out of a junk PC I found in the basement, stuck the servers on the inside and pointed the public IP's using NAT, stuck a packet shaping rule in there, it was pretty drat tolerable. A few months later we moved buildings and got 100mb cable.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

Jeoh posted:

From the previous page: Got offered a job! 30% pay rise, way more interesting environment, pretty happy!

Congrats!

:yotj:

Mogomra
Nov 5, 2005

simply having a wonderful time
We use MongoDB at work :barf:

Every time someone inputs data with one property set as an Array instead of an Object, another one of our automated scripts that assumes it's an Object (the way it should always be with no exceptions) blows poo poo up. MongoDB decides that it's ok to fill the array with lots of garbage data if it's updated as if it were an object. We've since moved from people inputting bad data manually to a nice little UI/Wizard that should fix this, but somehow this exact issue keeps popping up. I've asked for it to be fixed, and have been told that it was fixed a few times now.

Every time it pops up, it's immediately the automated scripts fault, and not the person who put garbage data in.

Now it's all of a sudden my job to make the script double check that people weren't retards because it's way too hard to actually fix the way these things are created, and my argument of garbage in, garbage out didn't fly this time. Seriously, all that needs to be changed is a "[]" to a "{}" somewhere to actually fix this nonsense. I'm not even really sure where these things are being created because I have nothing to do with, and am never made aware of when anyone is creating them. Still my problem.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Pissing me off: the VP who has been a pain in my rear end for a month and a half because he wants everything now decided it should take less time to do things next month than it did this month. He also decided there should be more to do. What he would have known if he had bothered conferring with is was that I’ll be gone for half that time and someone else will be filling in for the first time.

Not pissing me off: the PM told him to go pound sand, that it would take at least twice as long, and that he should “push the [report] review back a week or there will be little to review.”

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Mogomra posted:

We use MongoDB at work :barf:

Every time someone inputs data with one property set as an Array instead of an Object, another one of our automated scripts that assumes it's an Object (the way it should always be with no exceptions) blows poo poo up. MongoDB decides that it's ok to fill the array with lots of garbage data if it's updated as if it were an object. We've since moved from people inputting bad data manually to a nice little UI/Wizard that should fix this, but somehow this exact issue keeps popping up. I've asked for it to be fixed, and have been told that it was fixed a few times now.

Every time it pops up, it's immediately the automated scripts fault, and not the person who put garbage data in.

Now it's all of a sudden my job to make the script double check that people weren't retards because it's way too hard to actually fix the way these things are created, and my argument of garbage in, garbage out didn't fly this time. Seriously, all that needs to be changed is a "[]" to a "{}" somewhere to actually fix this nonsense. I'm not even really sure where these things are being created because I have nothing to do with, and am never made aware of when anyone is creating them. Still my problem.

Always check input, even when it's from a source that should never have anything else. It's just good coding (exceptions if it's a 1 off import or something, though you should still verify that most likely). You never know what is going to happen in the future. If they are still using your script in 20 years there may be a good reason to throw what you would consider invalid data into where the good data is. Your script now makes a mess instead of throwing an error.

They should fix what is causing the issue sure, but you should be silently writing to an error log and moving on to the next section and give them the error log. If the errors are your fault and you need to figure out how to turn their garbage into usable data, that is a different story and they can fix it on their end.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
We have three documents for program upgrades: preinstall, install, and postinstall. Even though upgrades are in my bucket, the server support team did all the testing of upgrades during the last release cycle because they own the servers. Which made no sense to me and I said so, but whatever. Server support also said that they reviewed all the documentation and made sure it was up to date - they finally got the technical writers to remove reference to inserting your install CD, for example, since we haven't actually provided installers on physical media in at least 7 years.

Today my team gets an e-mail from the department director asking if we reviewed the preinstall and postinstall steps. I said no, because the server team had done it. Server team said they had only done the install document, because upgrades are in my bucket, not theirs.

:smithicide:

It's not even like it took me long to review, I could've done it months ago if they would've just let me know about this completely arbitrary division of labor then instead.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?


Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I’m in. What’s the capacity of the stick these days?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I'm in.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Agrikk posted:

I’m in. What’s the capacity of the stick these days?

In with the same question.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




Hell yes

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Agrikk posted:

I’m in. What’s the capacity of the stick these days?

Same and same question.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Sure I’m in

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
In at any capacity. I can fit DSL on 16MB

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

I'm in

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


I'm in if shipping to Japan isn't too crazy or I can get it delivered to my parents' in the states before January 5th or so. I'm guessing the latter wouldn't be an issue since it's a Christmas buy.

What's the design going to be?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Mr. Fix It posted:

I'm in if shipping to Japan isn't too crazy or I can get it delivered to my parents' in the states before January 5th or so. I'm guessing the latter wouldn't be an issue since it's a Christmas buy.

What's the design going to be?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I had an email chain forwarded to me today with someone actually saying 'do the needfull'. Either there's an Aussie goon that works for Delonghi or I caught one out in the wild.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Humphreys posted:

I had an email chain forwarded to me today with someone actually saying 'do the needfull'. Either there's an Aussie goon that works for Delonghi or I caught one out in the wild.

I've heard it spoken in earnest at my last job and I'm in Australia too.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I am in

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe
Depending on shipping costs to Belgium, I'm in.

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I am in if shipping costs end up reasonable

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Humphreys posted:

I had an email chain forwarded to me today with someone actually saying 'do the needfull'. Either there's an Aussie goon that works for Delonghi or I caught one out in the wild.

IT the toaster oven is on the blink please do the needful

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




That or "It Doesn't Concern You"

Edward_Tohr
Aug 11, 2012

In lieu of meaningful text, I'm just going to mention I've been exploding all day and now it hurts to breathe, so I'm sure you all understand.

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Crosspost:

It's been a few years, do we want to do another christmas group buy?




I'd be in for a few, yeah.

spiny
May 20, 2004

round and round and round
Also in for a new usb keyfob :)

PremiumSupport
Aug 17, 2015
I'm in

Langolas
Feb 12, 2011

My mustache makes me sexy, not the hat

Sounds like we need a sign up cause I'd love to get in on ordering some of these awesome this time around!

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


I'm also in for 1 or 2.

Maybe someone could (n)gin(x) up a nice website signup thing, preferably running PHP 4 on a 4 year old version of MySQL all running off a Mac mini with Gentoo loaded on it. But make sure the password requirements are at least 3 characters long so it's nice and secure.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Super Soaker Party! posted:

I'm also in for 1 or 2.

Maybe someone could (n)gin(x) up a nice website signup thing, preferably running PHP 4 on a 4 year old version of MySQL all running off a Mac mini with Gentoo loaded on it. But make sure the password requirements are at least 3 characters long so it's nice and secure.

3 characters, no more and no less.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


And silently drop characters after the 3rd

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Converts everything to lowercase when storing the password, but not when evaluating it later

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



The Fool posted:

And silently drop characters after the 3rd
Drop all characters before the last three.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Actually what it really needs is to store cc numbers along with the ccv and provide a rest api to query it.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


xzzy posted:

Actually what it really needs is to store cc numbers along with the ccv and provide a rest api to query it.

And store everything in an open S3 bucket it's supersecure because it's in the CLOUUUUUD.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Thanks Ants posted:

Converts everything to lowercase when storing the password, but not when evaluating it later

See I was thinking other direction. Make everything CAPS, don't communicate that, and make them case sensitive on log in.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Proteus Jones posted:

See I was thinking other direction. Make everything CAPS, don't communicate that, and make them case sensitive on log in.

when I googled it, first hit was this:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201609

Which sure sounds like your issue

google isn't telling me about any log tho. just one question looking for it with no answer

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



RFC2324 posted:

when I googled it, first hit was this:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201609

Which sure sounds like your issue

google isn't telling me about any log tho. just one question looking for it with no answer

Did you cross the streams or something?

There's some other guy having issues with MacOS and passwords, was that in this thread?

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Proteus Jones posted:

Did you cross the streams or something?

There's some other guy having issues with MacOS and passwords, was that in this thread?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750534&pagenumber=92#post477914551

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