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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Just use lyft instead. Uber is like the easiest thing to not use.

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Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Having money has a way of making one cheap as gently caress.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

It's a pretty big sign of modern American culture. Most people agree that Uber is deplorable... but it is cheap and convenient so they use it anyway.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Most people have never used Uber and never will.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Tuxedo Gin posted:

It's a pretty big sign of modern American culture. Most people agree that Uber is deplorable... but it is cheap and convenient so they use it anyway.

That's the same line people use with Walmart, Nestle, ISPs etc.

Something something ethical consumption under capitalism.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
Sonic.jpg

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

Just use lyft instead. Uber is like the easiest thing to not use.

My wife was taking a lyft home a couple of weeks ago and was propositioned by the driver.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Lol @ people going, "I don't want to support a scummy business...I know, I'll use taxis instead!"

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Cicero posted:

Lol @ people going, "I don't want to support a scummy business...I know, I'll use taxis instead!"

Taxis are saintly proletarian heroes compared to Uber, which really goes to show you how loving awful Uber is.

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003

actionjackson posted:

Friend of mine and SV techbro after mentioning to him how bad Uber is with all the culture poo poo

"I don't support them. I just use their services."

:wtc:

It seems like everyone has rose colored glasses on. Guess they don't want to attack the golden goose.

By using Uber you are making them lose more money so I guess it could be interpreted as a good thing.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Lyft has coupons every so often for the next few rides, does Uber do that? I've never gotten the impression it does and I can't imagine that'd help with the money hemorrhaging. Even in my poo poo tier city though there's at least one local company that took note and got itself a decent ride hailing app; people in better cities shouldn't have any excuse for sticking with Uber.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

GEMorris posted:

No, no one wants to be personally inconvenienced. Talk is cheap, and therefore in most situations all you get is talk.

See also "pray for X" social media posts and changing one's avatar to "support" the cause du jour.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Cicero posted:

Lol @ people going, "I don't want to support a scummy business...I know, I'll use taxis instead!"

The point isn't that taxis are some gorgeous, angelic entity. The point is that Uber is a piece of poo poo that is easily bypassed. They don't have a local monopoly (e.g., your lovely ISP or cable company), they aren't basically required for your continued existence (e.g., lovely health insurance companies, gas and oil companies, your lovely local power company), and their lovely practices aren't built into nearly every company in their field (e.g., treatment of agricultural workers supplying your food).

It's easy to pick something even marginally better that Uber and nothing preventing it for nearly anyone.


Edit: VVVV Yep, it's both a verb and a noun out here. It makes me want to kill people.

Sundae fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 31, 2017

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Apparently Uber is a verb in SF

Also what's the deal with Sam Altman? People seem to worship him but I don't see how he's different than any other startup bro

woke kaczynski
Jan 23, 2015

How do you do, fellow antifa?



Fun Shoe
So I'm part of this group called the Tech Workers Coalition, that basically fights for worker's rights and solidarity among all workers. Here's a really cool article about us and some other groups and currents in tech that don't get talked about much, about tech and labor, and about who the real voices of tech are. We like to think we do a little more than talk, and you should hit us up on Twitter or email or whatever if you have any thoughts.

actionjackson posted:

Apparently Uber is a verb in SF

Also what's the deal with Sam Altman? People seem to worship him but I don't see how he's different than any other startup bro

I wish I knew, he's just as lovely as the rest and he's toying with a run for governor under this tech policy wonk banner he has somehow and it's awful.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Ceglowski is awesome especially his haunted by big data talk

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Sundae posted:

The point isn't that taxis are some gorgeous, angelic entity. The point is that Uber is a piece of poo poo that is easily bypassed. They don't have a local monopoly (e.g., your lovely ISP or cable company), they aren't basically required for your continued existence (e.g., lovely health insurance companies, gas and oil companies, your lovely local power company), and their lovely practices aren't built into nearly every company in their field (e.g., treatment of agricultural workers supplying your food).

It's easy to pick something even marginally better that Uber and nothing preventing it for nearly anyone.


Edit: VVVV Yep, it's both a verb and a noun out here. It makes me want to kill people.

Additionally the majority of people never have a need for Uber or a taxi or anything similar. And on the rare occasions it might be useful for them there's usually an alternative.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

actionjackson posted:

Ceglowski is awesome especially his haunted by big data talk

My unstated goal at my company is to repackage all of his talks and beat my senior leaderships’ heads in with them.

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

jre posted:

This is the same logical failing you see from small business owners when they go "I can buy a 1TB drive from best buy for $100 why does this 300GB server drive cost $500"

You're massively underestimating the cost of having the data in active storage rather than archival and the complexity of running a website with that much traffic across different global regions.

And the fact that every interaction on the site is instrumented as gently caress and that the data stays constantly in flight through ETL for analytics and machine learning platforms. Couple that with deals with DMPs and other 2nd/3rd party data that easily run in the tens of millions along with internal targeting and audience platforms and god knows whatever else. The idea that all of twitter engineering consists of the bare minimum for message pub/sub on a static site is ludicrous.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I have used both uber and lyft and all the lyft drivers had notably better taste in music.

I'm still amazed at how much cleaner lyft looks for having just somewhat quietly continued to run an independent contractor taxi service while uber rolls around in a big pile of burning garbage, by which I mean I'm surprised lyft didn't just join Uber in the pile.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Around here many, maybe most drivers work for both simultaneously.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
https://theoutline.com/post/2437/who-banned-roger-stone

a man on a toilet gives advice to twitter

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Nov 1, 2017

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Tuxedo Gin posted:

It's a pretty big sign of modern American culture. Most people agree that Uber is deplorable... but it is cheap and convenient so they use it anyway.

I don't mind it, as long as the people who are using cheap convenient and lovely are willing to support legislating the cheap convenient and lovely business out of business so that nobody can use it.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

Shugojin posted:

I have used both uber and lyft and all the lyft drivers had notably better taste in music.

They almost all drive for both companies, lol

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

actionjackson posted:

Ceglowski is awesome especially his haunted by big data talk

I had missed that one, is is good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAXLHM-1Psk

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Time posted:

They almost all drive for both companies, lol

Yeah it's a sample size of like two drivers from each one and could equally be described as the Baltimore drivers have better taste than the Pittsburgh ones

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
Ceglowski is a prophet among men and if you haven't read his Burrito Tunnel story, you're missing out.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

actionjackson posted:

Apparently Uber is a verb in SF

Also what's the deal with Sam Altman? People seem to worship him but I don't see how he's different than any other startup bro

What has he even done? As far as I know, he’s the tech equivalent of “famous for being famous,” at least Paul Graham both wrote real code and built a real company before going full tech bro.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

actionjackson posted:

Ceglowski is awesome especially his haunted by big data talk

There's a new unlisted one on his site: http://idlewords.com/talks/build_a_better_monster.htm

quote:

Every time we went to the supermarket, my mom would give me a quarter to play Pac Man. As a good socialist kid, I thought the goal of the game was to help Pac Man, who was stranded in a maze and needed to find his friends, who were looking for him.

My games didn't last very long.

The correct way to play Pac Man, of course, is to consume as much as possible while running from the ghosts that relentlessly pursue you. This was a valuable early lesson in what it means to be an American.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
Maciej is a friggin hero

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

This is a pro click. Are there any more good posts like this, on this subject, by other people?

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

jon joe posted:

This is a pro click. Are there any more good posts like this, on this subject, by other people?

idk about other people but every single one of Ceglowski's talks is a pro read

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Sundae posted:

It's really pretty pathetic when you run into people like that, given Uber is about as easy to boycott as they get. You don't even have to give up a service; you just have to call a normal goddamned taxi.

Lyft is no angel in this space but we use them over cabs or Uber. It's not hard, and my experiences as a consumer have been pleasant.

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!
That your consumer choice matters is an illusion. Enjoy your organic fair trade coffee.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Buried in there is a link to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/business/chase-ads-youtube-fake-news-offensive-videos.html?_r=0

Best parts:

quote:

As of a few weeks ago, advertisements for JPMorgan Chase were appearing on about 400,000 websites a month.

[...]

JPMorgan has limited its display ads to about 5,000 websites it has preapproved, said Kristin Lemkau, the bank’s chief marketing officer. Surprisingly, the company is seeing little change in the cost of impressions or the visibility of its ads on the internet, she said.

[....]

“It’s only been a few days, but we haven’t seen any deterioration on our performance metrics,” Ms. Lemkau said in an interview on Tuesday.

A 99% reduction in ad "reach" and no change to the metrics.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Trabant posted:

Buried in there is a link to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/business/chase-ads-youtube-fake-news-offensive-videos.html?_r=0

Best parts:


A 99% reduction in ad "reach" and no change to the metrics.

What exactly is the implication of this?

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

jon joe posted:

What exactly is the implication of this?

Internet advertisement is going to collapse. YouTube / Instagram millionaires are panicking.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

jon joe posted:

What exactly is the implication of this?

Yea, what Lote said. It either proves that internet advertising doesn't work at all, or that companies are about to get very specific on what sites they advertise on. Either way, that means the market for internet ads is going to fall apart. It's way overdue really.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

eschaton posted:

What has he even done? As far as I know, he’s the tech equivalent of “famous for being famous,” at least Paul Graham both wrote real code and built a real company before going full tech bro.

He founded a (even more) failed 4square competitor but is most famous for buddying up to Paul Graham enough to take over YC after he stepped down. YC despite being the "premier" startup accelerator is run by a whole bunch of people that failed at startups beforehand. He's also a co-founded a terrified about evil AI nonprofit with Ol' Musky. So yeah, he's basically famous for being good at networking.

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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

quote:

Of the 400,000 web addresses JPMorgan’s ads showed up on in a recent 30-day period, said Ms. Lemkau, only 12,000, or 3 percent, led to activity beyond an impression. An intern then manually clicked on each of those addresses to ensure that the websites were ones the company wanted to advertise on. About 7,000 of them were not, winnowing the group to 5,000.
That poor intern.

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