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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Ion Dischargers and Dace Bonearm; do you completely finish everything on Ion Dischargers before Dace activates, or does he butt in as soon as the enemy ship gets the Ion token?

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Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Unguided Rockets; are they a "No Modifications Ever Except Focus Token" upgrade or is there any fuckery to be done?
No mods. At all. It's like Omega Leader except you get to use a focus token on your eyeballs

Baron Fuzzlewhack
Sep 22, 2010

ALIVE ENOUGH TO DIE
He'll butt in and his ability can trigger, but Ion Dischargers will still finish their trigger afterwards and cause the card to be discarded.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
gonna get 2x Gunboats because I love sucking

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

banned from Starbucks posted:

Unboxing guns for hire makes me wish these "fixer" expansions were just 2 smaller individual packages instead of a combo. Looking at the nice paintjob on the K fighter i know i will still never fly this pointsink of a ship and it will prob just sit in its clear plastic coffin forever. Maybe ill display it on my desk at least.

Nah, k fighters are good now. Nym + 2 deadeye black sun aces is the new torpboats. 3 point harpoons + 1 point scavenger crane + free Munitions fail-safe & deadeye + chips is pretty strong!

Edit: harpoon missiles probably should have been unique lol

hoiyes fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Oct 31, 2017

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Black Sun Ace (23)
Deadeye (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
Vaksai (0)

Black Sun Ace (23)
Deadeye (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
Vaksai (0)

Black Sun Ace (23)
Deadeye (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
Vaksai (0)

Jakku Gunrunner (15)
Pattern Analyzer (2)
Spacetug Tractor Array (2)

Total: 100

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Yeah I'm thinking about this. It looks pretty gnarly.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE Punisher: •Deathrain (36)
Lightweight Frame (2)
•Bomblet Generator (3)
Unguided Rockets (2)
Advanced Sensors (3)

TIE Phantom: Sigma Squadron Pilot (28)
Stygium Particle Accelerator (2)
Collision detector (0)
Intelligence Agent (1)

Total: 99/100

I was trying to figure out something to fit into that third slot while keeping a bid.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Try dropping adv sensors and stygium in favor of FCS and LWF on the phantom.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Lightweights (100)

"Deathrain" — TIE Punisher 26
Advanced Sensors 3
Bomblet Generator 3
Lightweight Frame 2
Ship Total: 34

"Backdraft" — TIE/sf Fighter 27
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 32

"Quickdraw" — TIE/sf Fighter 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 34

I plan on taking this to my next tournament thing. I dropped Unguided Rockets because I was always boosting so often and rarely had a focus to even use them.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004

enigmahfc posted:

Lightweights (100)

"Deathrain" — TIE Punisher 26
Advanced Sensors 3
Bomblet Generator 3
Lightweight Frame 2
Ship Total: 34

"Backdraft" — TIE/sf Fighter 27
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 32

"Quickdraw" — TIE/sf Fighter 29
Veteran Instincts 1
Fire-Control System 2
Lightweight Frame 2
Special Ops Training 0
Ship Total: 34

I plan on taking this to my next tournament thing. I dropped Unguided Rockets because I was always boosting so often and rarely had a focus to even use them.

Enigmahfc has me on the Deathrain train and I want to ride to the bitter loving end. Here is what I was thinking:
"Rear Admiral Chiraneau" - 63
-EU
-VI
-Gunner
-Hot Shot Co-Pilot
-Kylo Ren

"Deathrain" - 36
-Lightweight Frame
-Bomblet
-Unguided Rockets
-Advanced Sensors

or

"Marek Stele" - 37
-Stealth Device
-Tie/x7 title
-VI

"Deathrain" - 36
-LWF
-Bomblet
-Unguided Rockets
-Advanced Sensors

"Sienar Specialist" - 27
-LWL
-TLT
-Unguided Rockets

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I’m bringing back the swarm. Who wants to go all-in on Omega Squadron?

Omega fun v2 (98)

•"Omega Leader" (26) - TIE/FO Fighter
Juke (2), Comm Relay (3)

Omega Squadron Pilot (18) - TIE/FO Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Omega Squadron Pilot (18) - TIE/FO Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Omega Squadron Pilot (18) - TIE/FO Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

Omega Squadron Pilot (18) - TIE/FO Fighter
Crack Shot (1)

When the baby pilots grow up, they get to be just like their squadron leader ☺️ My standard TIE version of this ate a Millenium Falcon list alive, here’s to hoping it does the same to Poe and Tycho tonight.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





This is probably actually not bad

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...ain%20Aces&obs=

4x bombers (unguided/lwf/seismic (on some)) + wampa was kicking rear end not long ago. This drops wampa in favor of deathrain.

Also could drop a bomber (and some bombs) in favor of Omega Leader

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
Here’s a list I want to try out since I don’t have to worry about getting my poo poo pushed in by Jumps and Nyms and Biggs lists:

Impsss (99)

Glaive Squadron Pilot (40) - TIE Defender
Veteran Instincts (1), Cluster Missiles (4), Tractor Beam (1), TIE/D (0), Guidance Chips (0)

•Captain Jonus (28) - TIE Bomber
Veteran Instincts (1), TIE Shuttle (0), Lightweight Frame (2), Systems Officer (2), Intelligence Agent (1)

•Valen Rudor (31) - TIE Adv. Prototype
Veteran Instincts (1), Cruise Missiles (3), TIE/v1 (1), Shield Upgrade (4)

Jonus and Glaive are best friends while Valen boosts and barrel rolls like an idiot.

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I was looking at that Deathrain Aces list that got posted earlier, and I wanted to give it a try. However, since I don't have all the cards for the Vader build, I was going to try subbing in Quickdraw with the title+FCS+LF. I've still got 3 points left, but don't know what if anything I should add in. Any suggestions? Is there a better sub for Vader in that list?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Funzo posted:

I was looking at that Deathrain Aces list that got posted earlier, and I wanted to give it a try. However, since I don't have all the cards for the Vader build, I was going to try subbing in Quickdraw with the title+FCS+LF. I've still got 3 points left, but don't know what if anything I should add in. Any suggestions? Is there a better sub for Vader in that list?

Quickdraw is just fine. You want VI and your choice of Pattern Analyzer (actions after red moves) or Sensor Cluster (spend focus to change blank > evade on defense) for those last three points.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:

Tentative confirmation from our distributor: Waves 12 and 13 release next week. (e: tentative because preorders are due by 11/6 anyway :shrug:. No telling what this means anymore with Alliance)

Also there's a missing SKU: SWX71 doesn't have anything assigned to it. 67 is Resistance Bomber, 68 is TIE Silencer, 69 is the Alpha Class Starwing, 70 is the Kimogila fighter, 72 is the Phantom II, 73 is Guns for Hire. 71 is just randomly sitting empty in the middle of wave 12.

Yeah next week ain't gonna happen. They have 4 ships to preview, it'll be at least 4 weeks.

The missing SKU has had a lot of supposition about it, but nothing concrete has been confirmed so far.

The most likely thoughts are:

Possible TLJ spoilers Guillermo del Toro's character DJ's ship, which we've so far only seen interiors of, and the reason we don't know about it is because it's embargoed until the exteriors are available either in the trailers or the cinema.
Some kind of aces pack
Some kind of epic ship, possibly for Scum, of the corvette/gunship stripe, many possible ideas have been proposed.
e: im dum

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 1, 2017

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Gotta close your spoilers :v:

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




I keep forgetting BdT is even in this movie. Youd think they want to show him maybe a little in the advertising

banned from Starbucks fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 31, 2017

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
....you guys mean Benicio Del Toro

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

bunnyofdoom posted:

....you guys mean Benicio Del Toro
Oh God, I was really confused for a second.

BR0ME0
Apr 6, 2010

bunnyofdoom posted:

....you guys mean Benicio Del Toro

I hope not. I wanna see The Son of Porkins fly

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

bunnyofdoom posted:

....you guys mean Benicio Del Toro

Im double dum

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
ConfusedUs, do you think your Kylo/Whisper squad will be more viable in the post-FAQ meta? I know it'll take some time to shake out, but I really liked flying that list, but Dengar/Tel lists were just crushing me without breaking a sweat.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyonero posted:

ConfusedUs, do you think your Kylo/Whisper squad will be more viable in the post-FAQ meta? I know it'll take some time to shake out, but I really liked flying that list, but Dengar/Tel lists were just crushing me without breaking a sweat.

Quickdraw would be better. Still a bit too much PS10 for Whisper to be comfortable. Harpoon Missiles should probably replace the Homing missiles I had there previously.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!226:98,36,132,-1,212,204:45:3:;208:220,36,17,204:42:31:&sn=KyloQuickdraw&obs=

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





This Ion Death Machine list is brutal against low agility lists. I’m walking Nym, Miranda, ghosts, and falcons all over the board tonight.

2x Delta Defenders with ion cannon, TIE D, twin ion
OGP with palp, ion cannon, collision detector.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
How important is Palp and how good is he post nerf?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Some Numbers posted:

How important is Palp and how good is he post nerf?

He’s fine post nerf. Does well in this list. Usually use him on offense after the first round, which is when he’s keeping your defenders alive.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

ConfusedUs posted:

This Ion Death Machine list is brutal against low agility lists. I’m walking Nym, Miranda, ghosts, and falcons all over the board tonight.

2x Delta Defenders with ion cannon, TIE D, twin ion
OGP with palp, ion cannon, collision detector.

High agi Imps will be tough to crack with that, but going to try it out this weekend to decide what I am running for regionals season. All a kind of a moot point with the next 2 waves coming out next month. Also going to try out my cut down Dash & 2 Wookies plus

"Quickdraw" (29)
Expertise (4)
Fire-Control System (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Special Ops Training (0)

"Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)

Darth Vader (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 98

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Don't know if I like the Vader for the late game and with 4 wookies soon to be popular don't know if that's enough firepower.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Would Harpoon Missiles on Inquisitor be an ok idea?

he Inquisitor — TIE Advanced Prototype 25
Push the Limit 3
Harpoon Missiles 4
Autothrusters 2
TIE/v1 1
Ship Total: 35

"Deathrain" — TIE Punisher 26
Advanced Sensors 3
Unguided Rockets 2
Bomblet Generator 3
Lightweight Frame 2
Ship Total: 36

Omicron Group Pilot — Lambda-Class Shuttle 21
Emperor Palpatine 8
Ship Total: 29

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





lazerus06 posted:

Would Harpoon Missiles on Inquisitor be an ok idea?

he Inquisitor — TIE Advanced Prototype 25
Push the Limit 3
Harpoon Missiles 4
Autothrusters 2
TIE/v1 1
Ship Total: 35

"Deathrain" — TIE Punisher 26
Advanced Sensors 3
Unguided Rockets 2
Bomblet Generator 3
Lightweight Frame 2
Ship Total: 36

Omicron Group Pilot — Lambda-Class Shuttle 21
Emperor Palpatine 8
Ship Total: 29

Harpoons are pretty good on anyone, but I really prefer proton rockets on inquisitor.

Makes players choose: do I let him hang back and snipe (which is what he's best at), or do I dive in and eat the prockets?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




What usually goes on Omega Leader? I imagine you keep him cheap as he's still just a TIE F/O.

TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE/FO Fighter: •"Omega Leader" (24)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Sensor cluster (2)

TIE Phantom: •"Whisper" (40)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Intelligence Agent (1)

Total: 99/100

Could also go with Adaptability to get a two point bid.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Juke and Comm Relay are the only way to fly OL. Everything is is massively inferior, in the same way that you'd never fly Soontir without PTL and Autothrusters or Vader without Advanced Targeting Computer.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




That puts me a point over and I don't know what to cut. Maybe Adaptability on Whisper?

Edit: I want to keep Vader at 11 if at all possible, especially if I don't have a bid.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Honestly I'd drop Intel Agent.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Admiral Joeslop posted:

That puts me a point over and I don't know what to cut. Maybe Adaptability on Whisper?

Edit: I want to keep Vader at 11 if at all possible, especially if I don't have a bid.

I ran Vader/Whisper/TIE Bomber shuttle with Kylo and it was pretty good. Cheaper than OL too

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Omega Leader isn't even all that great, to be honest. He's annoying in that way a Rebel regen ship can be, but he's really no that threatening, just annoying as gently caress (again, just like Rebel regen).

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



enigmahfc posted:

Omega Leader isn't even all that great, to be honest. He's annoying in that way a Rebel regen ship can be, but he's really no that threatening, just annoying as gently caress (again, just like Rebel regen).

He's a great closer, and pretty solid at picking on 1-agility ships in particular. There's a certain value to being able to say "gently caress all of your dice mods, now and for the rest of the game" if he ends up one-on-one with someone.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





enigmahfc posted:

Omega Leader isn't even all that great, to be honest. He's annoying in that way a Rebel regen ship can be, but he's really no that threatening, just annoying as gently caress (again, just like Rebel regen).

He's actually really good.

If left to the end game, he's one of the best closers in the game. To beat him one-on-one, you need to have one or more of the following:

The ability to shed target locks somehow
The PS and tools to arc dodge him
Regen
Autodamage (bombs, antipursuit lasers, Vader crew, etc)
Luck (If you can shoot more than once, you're more likely to get lucky)

If targeted early, he's basically Biggs, and keeps the rest of your list alive. Which is also really good.

I can't tell you how many games I've closed out with OL. I've chewed through Falcons and Decimators, Jumpmasters and Defenders, Lancers and Ghosts and pretty much anything that's not Poe, Miranda, Corran, or Dengar, all of which are basically auto-losses for OL in the endgame.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Comedy option:

TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE Phantom: •"Whisper" (42)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Operations Specialist (3)

Lambda-Class Shuttle: Omicron Group Pilot (22)
Intelligence Agent (1)

Total: 99/100

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TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS
Here's the base for my current Escalation list:
"Omega Leader" (21)
Predator (3)
Weapons Guidance (2)
Shield Upgrade (4)

"Omega Ace" (20)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

Total: 59

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