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Cop Porn Popper posted:Oh goody. That dude lived less than an hour away from me. God drat it florida. You can't mix normal German sexual depravity with Florida weirdness.
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I wonder how "it's not a human body, it's just a doll made of a human body" was meant to divert suspicions.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41813062 Likely serial killer discovered in Japan.
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Randaconda posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41813062 quote:"I killed them and did some work on the bodies in order to hide the evidence," NHK quoted him as saying. Well, that's not gonna help your case.
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Sarcopenia posted:That's some Carl Tanzler poo poo. The Dollop on Carl Tanzler is loving awesome, despite poor audio quality.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Well, that's not gonna help your case. I wish I could remember it, but True Crime Japan says there's a special onomatopoetic word for dismemberment murders: it imitates the squish.
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steinrokkan posted:I wonder how "it's not a human body, it's just a doll made of a human body" was meant to divert suspicions. 
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Prosecutors: Dentist pulled tooth while riding hoverboardquote:Prosecutors say in an indictment that investigators found a video on Lookhart's phone of him riding a hoverboard while extracting a sedated patient's tooth. They say he texted the video to his office manager and joked that it was a "new standard of care." Prosecutors say investigators contacted the patient and she told them she was unaware that Lookhart was riding the hoverboard while operating on her. work is fun today (not our writer, but same story)
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Jezebel does an annual scary story contest and these are all supposed to be true stories, but one can never know. They are spooky as hell though.
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Killingyouguy! posted:Not sure if a direct link is kosher here, but I just finished watching a documentary called The Drug Trial: Emergency at the Hospital, about the 2006 first-in-humans trial of a drug called TGN1412. It had been shown to be safe in monkeys, but due to a small difference in monkey's and humans immune systems, sent all the participants (aside from the placebo recipients, obviously) into multiple organ failure. Luckily the trial was being conducted at a hospital (which at the time was not a requirement) so the ICU they got rushed to was just downstairs. Everyone survived, though one participant had to have his fingers and toes amputated after they began to rot away. Not all-that-similar-but-related, here's a story on how one research hospital's fancy new electronic health record system, computerized dispensing system, and multiple layers of checks and oversight led to a child being given 38 times the intended dose of antibiotics: https://medium.com/backchannel/how-technology-led-a-hospital-to-give-a-patient-38-times-his-dosage-ded7b3688558 The book it's excerpted from is a great read.
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zoux posted:Jezebel does an annual scary story contest and these are all supposed to be true stories, but one can never know. They are spooky as hell though. That made me miss the old GBS Halloween Ghost story threads.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Japanese policing is all about the confession; sadly sometimes it is all about the false confession, because coercion is a thing. Highlights include repeatedly arresting the same person in order to keep interrogating him without having to charge him, and legally you can be held for 23 days without being charged and in that time good loving luck getting anyone to believe you if you try to complain about any torture they subject you to because most of the time, those interrogations are not recorded. There's a reason why there's a 99% conviction rate in Japan and it isn't because the police there are amazing at always catching the right guy. Edit: Found a couple of better articles about how the Japanese legal system works. 5 straight days of interrogation is going to break pretty much any ordinary person, let alone the theoretical 23 days they can interrogate you. Don Gato has a new favorite as of 08:42 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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So how is living in Japan even possible? Everything I hear about the legal system seems so archaic I can’t actually imagine existing in it. Is it like 1984 style and everyone is just smiling on camera and walking on eggshells?
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pookel posted:It actually sounds like schizophrenia or some other delusional disorder to me, but since it's a black guy I'm sure he'll get the death penalty anyway.
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Aesop Poprock posted:So how is living in Japan even possible? Everything I hear about the legal system seems so archaic I can’t actually imagine existing in it. Is it like 1984 style and everyone is just smiling on camera and walking on eggshells? It's pretty much simply that they don't have much crime, so not many people get caught up in the legal system and there's no impetus to reform it. https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21722216-there-was-just-one-fatal-shooting-whole-2015-crime-dries-up-japans-police-hunt
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Basically what the poster above me said, crime really isn't that common in Japan. These false confessions are terrible but in terms of absolute numbers it's still rare for anyone to be charged with a crime. Plus, they are more lenient when it comes to minor crimes and have a very low recidivism rate, so it's not like the entire system is absolutely broken, it's just that it REALLY can't handle high profile crimes well at all. This is exacerbated by the fact that the Japanese police are constrained in a way that the rest of the world isn't, so they can't wiretap a suspect, offer plea bargains so that people can sell their partners out etc., and that really limits their options to a confession or bust. There's a reason why people in Japan still rate the police highly, and it isn't because they are robots who only follow what the police say. I read an article once a long rear end time ago that said that the Phoenix Wright games are an amazing satire of the Japanese legal system, but a lot of people even in Japan miss out on that because it's not like they have personal experience of how the criminal justice system treats criminals because they probably don't even know a guy who knows a guy who went through it for anything harsher than a speeding ticket. I know the plural of anecdote isn't data, but even in the "bad" parts of Tokyo I felt like I was fairly safe in a way that I hadn't felt in the US or Mexico, although that's also because I'll admit I really didn't live in the best neighborhoods growing up so anywhere that doesn't have gunfire every other night feels pretty safe to me. Edit: always keep up that 99.8% conviction rate even if it means dropping charges! Someday we'll bring it up to 99.9%! Don Gato has a new favorite as of 10:02 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:So how is living in Japan even possible? Everything I hear about the legal system seems so archaic I can’t actually imagine existing in it. Is it like 1984 style and everyone is just smiling on camera and walking on eggshells? Mr. Flunchy posted:It's pretty much simply that they don't have much crime, so not many people get caught up in the legal system and there's no impetus to reform it. So for instance the evidence used for most US drug possession or distribution cases would lead to a dropped case in Japan. edit: Holyshit I just looked up Japan's murder rate and it's .31 per 100,000. Even the safest state in the US is a 1.1 Terrible Opinions has a new favorite as of 10:07 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Don Gato posted:Being arrested in Japan is hazardous to your health. It gets better. Death row inmates in Japan aren't given any notice of their date of execution. You spend years in solitary confinement, knowing that every time someone knocks on the cell door to rouse you they might say "Get dressed, we're hanging you in 20 minutes".
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The Japanese legal system only really falls apart when they have to deal with genuine psychopaths. I read People Who Eat Darkness, about the Lucie Blackman murder by serial killer Joji Obara (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joji_Obara) and the police came unstuck when he absolutely wouldn't confess, even when faced with mountains of circumstantial evidence after weeks of interrogation. He was acquitted of Blackman's rape and murder too - but was convicted of manslaughter in other cases. It's a weird system they've got over there.
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Yeah, people poo poo on the Japanese legal system in this thread a lot, but having studied it for a semester as part of my degree (Comparative Legal Systems), there are a lot of elements I really like about it. I think it's important to keep in mind that the system is largely inquisitorial, rather than adversarial as in the US and Australia, so it's difficult to try and compare them directly.
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Terrible Opinions posted:
Now look up their suicide rate. It's higher than the US's murder and suicide rates added together.
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Due to the same flawed justice system discussed ITT, the theory is that some suicides were falsely reported as such. Official Japanese rate is 20.1/100k, but the WHO seem to believe it's 15.4. US rate is 12.6.
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Their forced confession tactics seem horrifying but is it that much different from most western countries? Maybe they're just extra visible because their legal system mostly works out? My problem with the Japanese legal system is more with the way they handle domestic situations but that is probably a wider cultural thing and again not only contained to Japan. I've had some lovely experiences with the police myself when my friends and I were more "alternative" looking, but overall I'm super grateful for living in Denmark when it comes to our legal system. I've never heard of someone getting railroaded by the police and we demolished or death penalty ages ago. E.g. Peter "Rocket" Madsen only being trapped by his own estimation of his level intelligence and the actual unraveling evidence. Denmark is tiny though so whenever a high profile case comes along, which it rarely does, the nation and the media is obsessed with it forever which means that the victims can't escape the whole thing for faaaar too long. There was a serial rapist who killed a couple of girls. My former roommate was good friends with the sister of one of the victims. Apparently the dad/grandfather/uncle (I don't remember) was estranged from the family because he was "willingly" untreated for his bipolar disorder and whenever he was in a manic state he would just spill things to the press about the family's feelings that he would have no way of knowing and they would just print it. Like on the front page. The sister couldn't go out to buy food for herself for years because she would have to see every gossip rag print huge pictures of her sister or her and her family at her sisters funeral with headlines taken from the word of an estranged relative that hadn't been in their lives for years. The same thing is kind of happening with the submarine case but at least it's just his friends/colleagues either going "Wow I would never have known!" or "Yeah this is why we stopped/didn't like working with the guy". I'm just happy that Kim Wall was Swedish so her loved ones don't have to put up with that stuff. But again, that probably happens everywhere. Denmark is just so small that the thing will drag on for so long and a lot of people will know you or the victim. Hell I have a mutual friend with the guy. Edit: Whelp that post was far longer than intended. Here are some a bunche of Japanese murder cases as atonement for having to read it. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2001/03/22/national/couple-handed-death-sentence-for-poisoning-four/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futoshi_Matsunaga (I've posted this one before but it's just so horrifying) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setagaya_family_murder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seisaku_Nakamura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tochigi_patricide_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Red_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_child_murders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasebo_slashing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre Sarcopenia has a new favorite as of 15:07 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Japan will crush your soul and curse your memory if you get caught with weed though, the most unnerving story of all
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Sarcopenia posted:I've had some lovely experiences with the police myself when my friends and I were more "alternative" looking, but overall I'm super grateful for living in Denmark when it comes to our legal system. I've never heard of someone getting railroaded by the police and we demolished or death penalty ages ago. E.g. Peter "Rocket" Madsen only being trapped by his own estimation of his level intelligence and the actual unraveling evidence. I studied abroad in Copenhagen in college and was stopped by police in a subway station (bet you can guess which one) on one of my first days in the country and patted down because they thought I was a drug mule. I had a big bag of stuff because I'd just stopped at the dognnetto and loaded up with yogurt and museli and I guess they looked at my clothes, realized I was foreign, and just assumed because of that I was carrying drugs. I wasn't excited about getting stopped on my way home, being forced to unload all my groceries, and getting patted down by a gigantic man in a strange country but it was still a totally pleasant exchange. I can't imagine it would have gone so politely if it had happened to me in the US. Still, absolutely going to call those cops out on profiling because they didn't stop anyone who looked conventionally Danish. Just this dumb girl in her booty shorts and a bunch of non-white men.
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I studied abroad in Copenhagen in college and was stopped by police in a subway station (bet you can guess which one) on one of my first days in the country and patted down because they thought I was a drug mule. I had a big bag of stuff because I'd just stopped at the dognnetto and loaded up with yogurt and museli and I guess they looked at my clothes, realized I was foreign, and just assumed because of that I was carrying drugs. I wasn't excited about getting stopped on my way home, being forced to unload all my groceries, and getting patted down by a gigantic man in a strange country but it was still a totally pleasant exchange. I can't imagine it would have gone so politely if it had happened to me in the US. Still, absolutely going to call those cops out on profiling because they didn't stop anyone who looked conventionally Danish. Just this dumb girl in her booty shorts and a bunch of non-white men. you should have just started shouting "I DO NOT CONSENT, WHERE IS YOUR WARRANT" etc until they decide it's too much hassle. if being a dumb american gets you out of actual crimes it should work for noncrimes too
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I studied abroad in Copenhagen in college and was stopped by police in a subway station (bet you can guess which one) on one of my first days in the country and patted down because they thought I was a drug mule. I had a big bag of stuff because I'd just stopped at the dognnetto and loaded up with yogurt and museli and I guess they looked at my clothes, realized I was foreign, and just assumed because of that I was carrying drugs. I wasn't excited about getting stopped on my way home, being forced to unload all my groceries, and getting patted down by a gigantic man in a strange country but it was still a totally pleasant exchange. I can't imagine it would have gone so politely if it had happened to me in the US. Still, absolutely going to call those cops out on profiling because they didn't stop anyone who looked conventionally Danish. Just this dumb girl in her booty shorts and a bunch of non-white men. I've only been to Copenhagen three times but it's a much bigger city (I live in the second largest city) than were I live so I could imagine that they are more "active" there. Now that I think about it there was a bit of a to do about profiling in Copenhagen, so I think it might be better now? But yeah at least our police are instructed to take a very non threatening, calm approach. I've only been annoyed and frustrated about my bad interactions with police here. Never have I felt threatened so hearing about the American police force is mind boggling and scary to me, especially because I and more importantly my younger brother are black. Edit: Which one was it because I can probably figure out real quick what the deal is. Those police men, albeit definitely xenophobic/racist were probably trying to were probably bored. I know a lot of dudes who have gotten tickets for peeing in public. I think that's the thing they "do" here when they are on patrol. The policemen who handed out the fines were always super apologetic though. We truly are the Scandivian equivalent of Canadians. Sarcopenia has a new favorite as of 18:29 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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A Spider Covets posted:Japan will crush your soul and curse your memory if you get caught with weed though, the most unnerving story of all My ex fiancé knew this and still brought LSD and kratom into Japan the last time we went. I was furious when I found out. Then he mixed up some kratom extract into some juice in Shibuya near the scramble crossing in close proximity to a cop while I begged him not to  And that’s my unnerving story about drugs in Japan.
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Xibanya posted:My ex fiancé knew this and still brought LSD and kratom into Japan the last time we went. I was furious when I found out. Then he mixed up some kratom extract into some juice in Shibuya near the scramble crossing in close proximity to a cop while I begged him not to Whyyyyy. Is your boyfriend white because multiple times I've been in a similar situation. Once one of my exboyfriends asked me, a black woman, to transport their weed, shrooms and LSD because "chicks totally don't get searched for that".  My current boyfriend once told me to hold a joint for him in a public and seconds after he said it he went "naaaah it's probably best if I white boy this" Hes a keeper <3
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Sarcopenia posted:Whyyyyy. So I read your post and thought about how generally, white people are ignorant dorks when it comes to this kind of situation*, was writing a thoughtful post about it, and then I thought about it more and like dude how big must one's balls be to bring drugs out in public I squirrel my weed away like it's my loving phylactery, it's hidden in my house unless it's actively in use, lmao. The only time I've seen people smoke in the open was during like the 2014 zombie pub crawl up here, and they got away with it because there were so many people, the cops couldn't waste resources on arresting people smoking up on the street. And that was just weed. *I am hilariously white, hello, greetings
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A Spider Covets posted:So I read your post and thought about how generally, white people are ignorant dorks when it comes to this kind of situation, was writing a thoughtful post about it, and then I thought about it more and like People smoke weed in public all the drat time, everywhere. People do coke at the urinals of every bathroom in every bar. It's the American way.
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RCarr posted:People smoke weed in public all the drat time, everywhere. People do coke at the urinals of every bathroom in every bar. It's the American way. Amending my resume to include "giant paranoid pussy" now ty Randaconda posted:*may not be entirely true for poor white people. vv Ah yeah, that's fair. My bad, that wasn't very considerate of me. A Spider Covets has a new favorite as of 20:20 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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A Spider Covets posted:So I read your post and thought about how generally, white people are ignorant dorks when it comes to this kind of situation* *may not be entirely true for poor white people.
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A friend of mine basically smokes every half an hour or so. He's literally addicted to weed, it's a thing. He says so himself and almost acts like he's drunk in a bad way if he's not on it, like he stops making sense when he's talking and is just a chore to deal with. Smoking makes him normal. I think he's like how Joe Rogan is anyway yeah if we're out in a city or anywhere with a bunch of people he'll just pack his pipe while walking and just light up like nothing is wrong and no one even looks at us weird or anything. I'm always super paranoid because back when I smoked (and I smoked a lot) it was always such a secretive thing for me
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I remember being casino security and the only time I felt remotely douchey was when they forced me to report drug poo poo to the cops because it was ALWAYS black and Latino dudes getting hosed over by this poo poo. Lilly white dudes were always tut tutted, and sent on their way or at worst arrested after a fight while possessing the drugs, but black and Hispanic dudes would get the full "take em back and wait for metro" bullshit for doing a bump in the nightclubs. Like who gives a poo poo? It's loving Vegas. Luckily I was able to drag my feet enough or under report enough for metro not to get involved when it was my report, but some dudes weren't so lucky. Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 20:30 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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A Spider Covets posted:So I read your post and thought about how generally, white people are ignorant dorks when it comes to this kind of situation*, was writing a thoughtful post about it, and then I thought about it more and like If you haven't done coke in a bar bathroom with someone you just met like 10 minutes ago, then you aren't living your life correctly.
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On the college campus I went to it was much, much safer to smoke weed on the move, just walking around campus and keeping an eye out just in case you have to ditch the joint really quick. The only alternative was inside your dorm, and it was just waaaay too easy to get caught doing that and potentially kicked out of school. If they smell it they instantly call the cops and then you're trapped in the room with a cloud of weed smoke that's not dissipating nearly fast enough.
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Randaconda posted:That's the most Florida story of all time. I forgot her name, but I can't forget a face!
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