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OldTennisCourt posted:I feel like a deep question comes down to inceldom, when does being a piece of poo poo slide into mental illness? Like a good portion of those in the incel community seem to have deep mental illness, but how many are just total hateful dickheads? I don't have an answer for this, but I have had this question before. It's not that I don't believe in mental illness, but is every immature, self-entitled rear end in a top hat necessarily mentally ill? In my workplace there was someone with a terrible personality* and my co-workers were armchair-diagnosing her as bipolar. Where is the line that "just an offputting, immature personality" ends and mental illness begins? Can't people be obnoxious brats without being mentally ill ? (rhetorical questions - not directed toward you, OldTennisCourt) *in addition to me
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I think it also doesn't help that there's now this feedback loop of deeply hosed up people affirming each other's worst ideas. I feel like if /r/incels didn't exist or the concept didn't exist a lot of those guys may have not slipped into that cycle of thinking that all women are evil bitches who hate them for not being ~Chads~ and could have maybe found help? It's tough because they could easily just stew in their own hatred and self loathing but the guys who have legit mental illnesses/depression/anxiety might have sought out help because they didn't have people going "No dude it's those bitches, not you!"
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# ? Oct 31, 2017 23:51 |
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KillerJunglist posted:They compliment his personality while he is catfishing. Isn't catfishing online basically straight up lying? Like just showing and saying only what you think the victim wants to see and hear? I think what he's trying to say is that his personality attracts women if hidden behind a Chad picture but the same personality repels women offline/when using his own picture in online dating etc.
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green chicken feet posted:I don't have an answer for this, but I have had this question before. It's not that I don't believe in mental illness, but is every immature, self-entitled rear end in a top hat necessarily mentally ill? the DSMs typically make the distinction by classifying a particular set of (irrational, self-destructive, whatever) behavior as narrowly as possible and saying that you have to display this particular set of behavior x number of times in y time period. these classifications have specific disqualifying sets as well - for example, "intermittant explosive disorder", also known as "this motherfucker kicks off into rages for like, no apparent reason" explicitly disqualifies people who fly into rages for a functional end, such as to intimidate or assert power. in this case, the jerks who fly into rages like that are just abusive spouses and cult leader assholes who have no excuse for their lovely behavior. the line differs from diagnosis to diagnosis, but the big thing to note is that mental illness is classified by some sort of honestly broken brain, defined in the universe of "this behavior serves some purpose that makes the organism hosting the brain more comfortable than otherwise." if you're made more comfortable by some parasitic behavior then you're just a worthless dicklicker. it's only when your brain is literally making you fly into destructive rages for no purpose or end that it becomes a mental illness. this is why armchair psychology is so hilarious. people don't understand this basic context. in this way, no, most incels are not, in fact, mentally ill. their auto-erotic loathing is more comfortable than the alternative they would have to face - that they are responsible for their conditions and they are responsible for improving it.
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So I relapsed into a beta cuck today. (self.Incels) submitted 16 hours ago by (username) breast cancer is on our side quote:Today at lunch time I was sitting on some steps at a plaza enjoying the nice weather while browsing incels on my phone. There was a roastie sitting next to me who was wearing typical slutty office attire and was probably sifting for Chad on Tinder. What is the lesbian equivalent of Chad quote:A couple of days ago my lifelong crush (the lesbian who I've talked about on here about a lot) posted a picture of her from the side, and I realized she has a super loving strong and defined jawline. She also wears leather jackets all the time, is extremely popular, is a god drat 11/10 in the looks department,and grew up with rich parents. She is the lesbian equivalent of Chad. Anybody else wish they were a woman sometimes? quote:I wish I was a woman. When we were given a gender, I wish I had been made a woman. I got screwed over. haha, I remember having that internal monologue back in the day women are gay quote:women are all lesbians and thats why they feel no compassion for men they use us for status and then go eat psusy its gay noether fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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One of those guys almost made the right choice in deleting all social media, and doing so would make every single one of their lives dramatically better. Most people to begin with don't have the emotional maturity to handle social media if they interact with it on a level beyond simple scheduling, and incels sure as poo poo don't.
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 01:26 |
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noether posted:So I relapsed into a beta cuck today. (self.Incels)
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Coolguye posted:the DSMs typically make the distinction by classifying a particular set of (irrational, self-destructive, whatever) behavior as narrowly as possible and saying that you have to display this particular set of behavior x number of times in y time period. these classifications have specific disqualifying sets as well - for example, "intermittant explosive disorder", also known as "this motherfucker kicks off into rages for like, no apparent reason" explicitly disqualifies people who fly into rages for a functional end, such as to intimidate or assert power. Thank you for this awesome explanation. This really clarifies the difference between bad behavior and mental illness. It's unfortunate that this isn't common knowledge. In the case of the woman I worked with who lied and had emotional outbursts, the lies were clearly self-serving ones. These included exaggerating her previous experience, taking credit for other people's work, and making false accusations about people she didn't like. The emotional outbursts, I'm not sure about. They made her look bad, so I'm not sure if they were manipulation attempts gone awry, a lack of self-control, or the result of some actual mental illness. But it definitely seems premature to jump to the conclusion that she wasn't in her right mind.
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Coolguye posted:the DSMs typically make the distinction by classifying a particular set of (irrational, self-destructive, whatever) behavior as narrowly as possible and saying that you have to display this particular set of behavior x number of times in y time period. these classifications have specific disqualifying sets as well - for example, "intermittant explosive disorder", also known as "this motherfucker kicks off into rages for like, no apparent reason" explicitly disqualifies people who fly into rages for a functional end, such as to intimidate or assert power. A diagnosis has literally nothing to do with the brain (barring something like TBI), which is why they don't actually give you any medical tests for a psychological diagnosis. That's why not all kids with ADHD react the same way to stimulants - it works for some and not others because their brain chemistry is radically different despite having the same behaviors and diagnosis. We call people 'broke brained' if they have a diagnosis, not the other way around. IED is just "lovely behavior that escalates quickly and is unpredictable." Oppositional Defiant disorder is just "lovely behavior and noncompliance we can't chalk up to anything else." It turns out if you put the right consequences in place, the behavior disappears. I've 'cured' dozens of kids of IED/ODD. Literally - they lost the diagnosis as a result of therapy. I didn't do anything with their brain, just their environment.
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 03:39 |
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I had no idea so many goons were actual, professional therapists! This derail of totally educated opinion on mental illness has been very enlightening Anyway it’s Halloween, I wonder what the incels are up to now? quote:Dickhead rear end kids are mad im only giving out popcorn quote:[Homemade Lifefuel] I just ruined normie's party quote:halloween is the #1 degenerate day quote:Incels are Frankenstein's creature.
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There were so many attractive women around with their tits out, naturally I was furious.
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Jim Barris posted:There were Let's get to the incel root here.
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 05:01 |
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Yes incels, you are just like Frankenstein's monster. Everywhere you go flowers wilt and children weep. Also they clearly didn't read the book because the creature was Chad as gently caress.
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Dienes posted:A diagnosis has literally nothing to do with the brain (barring something like TBI), which is why they don't actually give you any medical tests for a psychological diagnosis. That's why not all kids with ADHD react the same way to stimulants - it works for some and not others because their brain chemistry is radically different despite having the same behaviors and diagnosis. We call people 'broke brained' if they have a diagnosis, not the other way around. "Broke brained" in this case was a term to be used in the context of the forum's vernacular, not a biological determination. joylessdivision posted:Yes incels, you are just like Frankenstein's monster. Everywhere you go flowers wilt and children weep. he also got even more chad as time went on, see also young frankenstein Coolguye fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Frankenstein's Incel hates the sight of his own face and goes into an obsessive violent rage when he's denied the woman he believes he is entitled to because it would give meaning to his life.
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Ghostlight posted:Frankenstein's Incel hates the sight of his own face and goes into an obsessive violent rage when he's denied the woman he believes he is entitled to because it would give meaning to his life.
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Incel: What is this music going on for the past several hours. People having fun on Halloween? Not on my watch! (Walks to neighbor's house) Woman: Hello? Incel: Turn off the music. Woman: You'll need to talk to the DJ about that. Incel: I don't talk to DJs. I'm going to call the police. (Incel storms off) (10 minutes later...) Incel: They turned off the music. I can't believe it! I ruined a normie party! This is the greatest achievement of my life! I am SO ALPHA! Now back to reddit... (Starts typing) I too understand how it feels to be treated like a monster. The incel walks into town and is hated for no reason other than his face. If we were beautiful like Chad, we would be loved... (Edit: I realized I essentially rephrased exactly what was written in the posts, but it's because their lack of self-awareness is so stupefying. They expect to be treated like the hero of the story while they behave like Scrooge. Can't wait to hear how he ruins a normie's Christmas!) green chicken feet fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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green chicken feet posted:Incel: What is this music going on for the past several hours. People having fun on Halloween? Not on my watch! Tbf, loud music after a certain point is just taking the piss. He's no hero but I see nothing wrong in making noise complaints. Then again i doubt he had work in the morning.
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Benny Harvey posted:Tbf, loud music after a certain point is just taking the piss. He's no hero but I see nothing wrong in making noise complaints. Then again i doubt he had work in the morning. It also isn't an "alpha" move
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It's also remarkably courteous that the party would even listen.
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Jim Barris posted:There were so many attractive women around with their tits out, naturally I was furious.
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My Linux Rig posted:[frankenstein] So the premier book on the incel condition was written by a woman?
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 09:47 |
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lmao
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Benny Harvey posted:Tbf, loud music after a certain point is just taking the piss. He's no hero but I see nothing wrong in making noise complaints. Then again i doubt he had work in the morning. I can sympathize with not wanting to hear loud music all night, but how about giving them a chance to turn it down before going directly to calling the police? Halloween is one of the few nights of the year where big, late parties are customary. I feel like his glee at the music being shut off completely rather than a compromise is what makes him such a grinch. (and patting himself on the back for being so alpha for making a phone call is ridiculous)
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Exercising some form of control over another person is the only thing that cheers him up, obviously. Ultimately it's people to whom equitable and amiable communication is alien.
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green chicken feet posted:I can sympathize with not wanting to hear loud music all night, but how about giving them a chance to turn it down before going directly to calling the police? Halloween is one of the few nights of the year where big, late parties are customary. Yeah but then they'd know who called the police.
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 12:41 |
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It's pretty fascinating/scary to see how incels have devolved from this 'woe is me, no one loves me!' poo poo to this deep rage at literally every woman on earth. I wonder when/why that shift occurred.
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OldTennisCourt posted:It's pretty fascinating/scary to see how incels have devolved from this 'woe is me, no one loves me!' poo poo to this deep rage at literally every woman on earth. I wonder when/why that shift occurred. The Internet Makes You Stupid
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 14:33 |
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Are you a costco dog though? Regular dogs don't cut it anymore.
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# ? Nov 1, 2017 15:25 |
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What a perfect analogy. "...it's like saying you're thirsty when there is sewer water right under the manhole outside your house!"
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Furia posted:So the premier book on the incel condition was written by a woman? don't focus on the parts that don't matter, you see the monster is relevant because and furthermore
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Benny Harvey posted:Yeah but then they'd know who called the police. But they already knew he was the one calling the police. He told the girl outside the house that he didn't want to talk to the DJ and that he was going to call the police.
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green chicken feet posted:But they already knew he was the one calling the police. He told the girl outside the house that he didn't want to talk to the DJ and that he was going to call the police. Yeah, I just meant I would call the police without talking to anyone first.
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Benny Harvey posted:Yeah, I just meant I would call the police without talking to anyone first. He said in his story he wasn't a pussy, he could probably de escalate any potential situation purely with his fists
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Benny Harvey posted:Yeah, I just meant I would call the police without talking to anyone first. I might go directly to the police in a similar situation as well. A lot would depend on my relationship with the neighbor and if I felt safe asking them directly. What this guy did is go over to the house and effectively announce he was calling the police. He didn't attempt to have a conversation with the DJ or whomever was actually responsible for the party. He accomplished nothing except outing himself as the guy who was calling the police. And that's pretty funny.
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green chicken feet posted:Incel: What is this music going on for the past several hours. People having fun on Halloween? Not on my watch! How can that guy claim to be ALPHA if he had someone else take care of his problem?
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But Zeus had to transform multiple times to get laid, and as we all know changing yourself in any way in the hope of having sex is cope. Chad doesn't have to do poo poo and pussies just fall from the sky and land straight on his 20" cock.
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Shanghaied posted:But Zeus had to transform multiple times to get laid, and as we all know changing yourself in any way in the hope of having sex is cope. Chad doesn't have to do poo poo and pussies just fall from the sky and land straight on his 20" cock. Poor Chad, thought of titties and died from lack of oxygen to the brain
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Shanghaied posted:But Zeus had to transform multiple times to get laid, and as we all know changing yourself in any way in the hope of having sex is cope. Chad doesn't have to do poo poo and pussies just fall from the sky and land straight on his 20" cock. But Zeus turned into weird poo poo and still got laid so he's the Überchad.
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Barudak posted:Poor Chad, thought of titties and died from lack of oxygen to the brain
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