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Evilreaver posted:Quick question: I'm trying to set up a brand new PC and want to get Win10 on it with as little effort as possible. I mounted the brand-new hard drive into a working computer, but I don't seem to be able to do a fresh Win10 install on it without either a USB (none at my disposal) or burning an iso (no optical drives at my disposal). I'm using the windows installer from Microsoft, and I'm low on ideas. Littlest effort? Buy a $5 USB drive.
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Evilreaver posted:To be clear, I have a working Win7 computer with a new empty drive, and I want to install Win10 on the empty drive without affecting the Win7 install. So you're attempting to do this from within 7, right? Did you partition the empty drive and give it a driveletter? That doesn't matter when booting from usb or dvd, but it might from inside a running installation? 
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Oct 27, 2017 22:46
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astral posted:Littlest effort? Buy a $5 USB drive. Do not do this. Buy a USB 3.0 drive if you have a USB 3.0 port, because the time savings is *vast*.
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Oct 27, 2017 22:49
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Do not do this. Buy a USB 3.0 drive if you have a USB 3.0 port, because the time savings is *vast*. Let me amend my post to say "smallest effort for smallest cost".  I do agree though, a USB 3.0 flash drive would be better. Worth the extra couple of bucks.
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Oct 27, 2017 22:51
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ProjektorBoy posted:The creation of a condition where a machine can essentially consume 2 licenses at once is the most obtusely Microsoft thing I can imagine. 2? It's easy to consume thousands on a single physical machine. SwissArmyDruid posted:Do not do this. Buy a USB 3.0 drive if you have a USB 3.0 port, because the time savings is *vast*. You can go grab an 8 GB USB 3.0 flash drive that does a fine ~180 megabyte a second read at like a Micro Center for $6. Probably get cheaper ones on Amazon with free shipping, but I can speak for Micro Center's dirt cheap 8 and 16 GB usb 3.0 drives they keep by the registers.
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Oct 27, 2017 22:53
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Hipster_Doofus posted:So you're attempting to do this from within 7, right? Did you partition the empty drive and give it a driveletter? That doesn't matter when booting from usb or dvd, but it might from inside a running installation? Yes I did, my options are "make usb/iso" and "upgrade this install"; I was really hoping for an installation exe or something that would allow me to just do it in one step, but it looks like "clone and upgrade" is the way we're going for now
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Oct 27, 2017 23:22
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Evilreaver posted:Yes I did, my options are "make usb/iso" and "upgrade this install"; I was really hoping for an installation exe or something that would allow me to just do it in one step, but it looks like "clone and upgrade" is the way we're going for now Wow, how lame. I definitely remember you can choose a drive and partition for a new install in 7. How tf are you supposed to dual-boot 7 and 10 then?
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Oct 28, 2017 00:01
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That selection is there if you boot from a dvd/usb. You _could_ download the ISO, extract the files, boot into recovery mode, and use the command prompt to run the w10 setup.exe. It'll use your existing efi partition on the other drive for boot data though, so it doesn't work too well if you plan on removing the drive and putting it in another computer. I'm sure diskpart and bcdedit would be able to fix that, but really just do the clone or buy a usb drive.
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Oct 28, 2017 00:43
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The Saga Continues I've cloned the drive and upgraded one of the installs. At no point did it ask me for the new CD key so I'm assuming it's still using the one from Win7 (which was briefly upgraded to 10 before I became Mad and reverted to 7), which I again assume means that when I get my 7 drive into service, windows (from online) will see two copies of the same cdkey and brick something. Is there a way around this?
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Oct 28, 2017 01:12
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Settings > Update & Security > Activation > Change Product Key and use your new key.
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Oct 28, 2017 01:22
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How do I get this to never pop up in the middle of my screen while I'm doing something again? I had it fixed until the creator edition came out and now I can't figure out how to make it stop.
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Oct 28, 2017 04:58
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Azuth0667 posted:How do I get this to never pop up in the middle of my screen while I'm doing something again? I had it fixed until the creator edition came out and now I can't figure out how to make it stop. Uninstall Something Awful from your life and block it in your Hosts file?
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Oct 28, 2017 06:28
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What is a good X server for Windows? I am using the last open source version of Xming, but have run into a couple of bugs. I tried VcXsrv but after quick testing it works worse than the old-rear end Xming. The new Xming looks reasonable, but its "donate to get 1-year subscription" payment model seems sketchy as hell.
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Xarn posted:What is a good X server for Windows? I am using the last open source version of Xming, but have run into a couple of bugs. I tried VcXsrv but after quick testing it works worse than the old-rear end Xming.
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Oct 28, 2017 16:28
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We have been having this argument over in the Linux thread. Some people still swear by XMing. I have used for more than 10 years cygwinX and I never had a problem. Trivial to install (click next, select whatever packages, like xinit, ssh, xterm) and just run with it. The new Linux-on-Windows sytem though, some people say they have had success with it(installing an X Server there). I've never done it but it's worth trying at least if for some reason you hate cygwin.
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Oct 28, 2017 17:17
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Xarn posted:What is a good X server for Windows? I'm just starting to use WSL for real so I can't really recommend anything, but have you tried the Xserver inside MobaXterm?
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Oct 28, 2017 17:27
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Volguus posted:The new Linux-on-Windows sytem though, some people say they have had success with it(installing an X Server there). I've never done it but it's worth trying at least if for some reason you hate cygwin. The whole reason why I want Win32 Xserver is to get graphical output out of WSL  Grim Up North posted:I'm just starting to use WSL for real so I can't really recommend anything, but have you tried the Xserver inside MobaXterm? Nope, gonna try it out.
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Oct 28, 2017 17:52
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Instead of running an X server on the host, you can install an X-VNC server on the application host, and get a desktop via VNC that way. I've done that with WSL and headless Linux servers before.
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Oct 28, 2017 17:56
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I have had no success getting software rendering working with X, but unaccelerated apps work fine with Cygwin’s X server.
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Oct 28, 2017 19:47
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So it seems that Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has at some point disabled toggling the screen orientation rotation lock while my tablet is in Landscape mode. That means if I want to prevent Windows from loving up my window positions when I pack up and move around, I have to first rotate into Portrait mode, toggle the rotation lock while in Portrait, then use the Settings panel to change back to Landscape. Of course, this process still fucks my window positions. I also cannot disable rotation lock while in Landscape now, so I have to repeat the whole thing in reverse later when I want to auto-rotate again.
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Oct 30, 2017 13:42
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isndl posted:So it seems that Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has at some point disabled toggling the screen orientation rotation lock while my tablet is in Landscape mode. That means if I want to prevent Windows from loving up my window positions when I pack up and move around, I have to first rotate into Portrait mode, toggle the rotation lock while in Portrait, then use the Settings panel to change back to Landscape. Of course, this process still fucks my window positions. I also cannot disable rotation lock while in Landscape now, so I have to repeat the whole thing in reverse later when I want to auto-rotate again. I don't remember exactly what fixed it for me on the surface pro 4 some months ago, but it involved a sequence of connecting and disconnecting the keyboard and manipulating rotation and rotation lock settings and rebooting in between. The most annoying thing was that I had to find a keyboard cover to borrow as connecting/disconnecting it was key to the fix, but I don't own one. I also bookmarked these two pages at the time as relevant, but I'm not sure what the critical information on them is now. (edit: I hope it's obvious that when the first page recommends their particular generic "fix pc problems" tool, that that's a shitware ad, not a valid troubleshooting step) In any case, it's not supposed to work like that. Flipperwaldt fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Oct 30, 2017 14:07
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I've got this bookmarked for when an update kicks rotation back on my HPX360. Never fails.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:02
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Arivia posted:Uninstall Something Awful from your life and block it in your Hosts file? Is there an app that allows you to restrict internet access to only whitelisted apps? Like, can I make it so only Chrome and certain videogames can get on the internet, but Explorer can't?
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Oct 30, 2017 21:10
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I think they call that a Firewall.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:17
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Im_Special posted:I think they call that a Firewall. No no I mean an OS level thing that can block Windows itself and non-whitelisted apps from sending any packets out. I feel like that would solve a lot of problems. Edit: For instance, obscuring my ethernet connecion with a virtual NIC, that only reveals itself to whitelisted apps. All other apps and Windows would just think the cable is unplugged. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Oct 30, 2017 21:23
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AFAIK that's literally what the Windows Firewall does. Try removing offending apps from the whitelist. If that doesn't work try blacklisting them. If that doesn't work that's a pretty bad implementation of a firewall Microsoft.
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Zero VGS posted:No no I mean an OS level thing that can block Windows itself and non-whitelisted apps from sending any packets out. I feel like that would solve a lot of problems. Yes, a software firewall on the machine. E.g. you can set up per-program rules including total block of incoming/outgoing in the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security, which is included at least in Pro edition. It should be listed in the Windows Administrative Tools folder in the Start menu.
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You should really check out Windows Firewall Control by https://www.binisoft.org/wfc.php It's a front end for Windows own built in Firewall which makes it a helluva lot easier to use, you'll need to donate  for a lifetime key though, because without that you miss out on a very important feature (and the only feature locked behind a donation), which is that it will display a notification when something is blocked, and ask you what to do, block/allow/etc. Without this you have to guess why something isn't having access to internet and you'll have to manually create allow rules first. Seriously though, it's worth ,it's also only c'mon.If you do give it a try, you'll want to open up the rule panel and delete EVERYTHING (so much useless poo poo in there (but don't worry you can always restore the default rules which is built into Windows)), then you'll want to right click > policies > restore recommended rules, which will create you the bare minimum set of rules needed for Windows to work (because you won't have internet access until you do.)  After that when you run things it'll ask you to block or allow and go from there, you'll have a nice little whitelist/blacklist of poo poo in a day. Okay I'm done. /shilling
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nielsm posted:Yes, a software firewall on the machine. E.g. you can set up per-program rules including total block of incoming/outgoing in the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security, which is included at least in Pro edition. Interesting, I can apply a block of all traffic to all programs and services in Windows Firewall, but I don't see anywhere in the custom rule creation to add exceptions. Can I add "Allow" rules that would be prioritized over the global block? Im_Special posted:You should really check out Windows Firewall Control by https://www.binisoft.org/wfc.php Thanks, I'll give that a whirl, we have some embedded machines like digital signage that need to run 24/7 and receive content updates from email, but Windows 10 Updates breaks the Quadro drivers pretty often. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Zero VGS posted:Interesting, I can apply a block of all traffic to all programs and services in Windows Firewall, but I don't see anywhere in the custom rule creation to add exceptions. Can I add "Allow" rules that would be prioritized over the global block? Checking out the demo (ie. don't donate) is worth it too, just so you don't have to deal with Windows Advance Firewall, you just won't get notifications which for me is a huge QoL feature and why I use it. EDIT: ^^ Yeah if all you want to do is keep Windows from finding updates, I'd imagine all you gotta do is first, delete EVERYTHING > recommended rules > and then remove this one rule or change it to block. And make sure it's set to Medium Filtering, whereas Windows Advanced Firewall at defaults has it set at Low Filtering, you know for grandma's.  
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Oct 30, 2017 22:33
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I dunno when exactly it got fixed but I can output sound from my Windows 10 PC via bluetooth APX to my reciever. I think I tried it about 6-8 months ago and got jack poo poo.. could have been the broadcom POS bluetooth adapter I suppose.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:22
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In the past I've used Windows Firewall Notifier which sounds to perform the same basic functions as Windows Firewall Control but without the paywall on the core feature. Never used the latter so no comment on comparative quality, WFN worked fine for the most part though.
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OK so I will get mobo & cooler today. Changing hardware is no problem but Windows.. I thought about: -> clone old ssd to new ssd, but I must be able to exclude certain folders like /games during the cloning process -> upgrade 8.1 to 10. I have also a bootable usb win10 install media -> upgrade mbr to gpt/uefi thingy with MBR2GPT (comes with creators update) Any good tools to clone SSD's including mbr etc. but exclude some files like hiber, pagefile and some folders...? Acronis trueimage maybe? Or some open source software? Should I upgrade windows online or offline straight after cloning? Will win8.1 even boot with Z370 and 8700K? Do I need to gently caress with the partitions while cloningto leave room for recovery partition or whatever the UEFI/GPT requires? Should I make a Windows PE usb key in case I run into some random problems? Or can driver issues etc. be solved with the bootable windows upgrade media? Thanks in advance 
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By definition, clone means clone so yes, things like the pagefile will be omitted, but you likely won't get to select individual folders that get included or excluded. My favorite cloning software is Macrium Reflect Free. Install it, create the bootable flash drive and then do everything from there. It's easy and free. If I were you, I'd do this: Swap out your motherboard. Reactivate Windows 8.1, if needed. Do this all on your original SSD. Make a backup if you want (Macrium Reflect can do this). Upgrade to Windows 10 using the upgrade tool. When you boot into 10, verify you're activated with a digital entitlement. Now run the tool to switch to GPT. Alternately, flatten and reinstall. IMO this is the best method to remove cruft, but YMMV as to whether you want to go through the trouble. bobfather fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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My new ssd is 500GB M.2, my old ssd 1TB SATA. So I really need to be selective what I copy. The actual programs and windows etc. take only 130GB, it's 600+GB of games and other stuff which I don't want to move over. One solution is to get Acronis Trueimage and make a backup image which omits some folders. Then restore that backup to the new SSD offline, upgrade windows and so on..
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Acronis solved everything. It created an image without extra junk, and restored it to the new ssd. Now I'm running win 10 enterprise and it was really painless. Apparently at some point the old MBR changed to uefi gpt thingy automatically. I realized it after trying to run mbr2gpt and it failed.. Upgrading from pro to enterprise took 15 seconds. I just switched the key from control panel and it activated automatically. Didn't need to download anything, didn't need to restart.. it's magical.
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I tried to like Macrium but Acronis does it better (when it works right). There are also cases like you need to shrink a partition or image a hard drive with bad sectors and Acronis does that stuff great.
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Huh, maybe one of these days I'll take Acronis up on one of those free-after-rebate deals.
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Acronis was $50 without any discounts, but so far it has saved me way more than $50 worth of time. No problems at all. I guess it's also better than crashplan for offline backups, since it does full images (or inceremental or whatever you want) which you can just restore back. Crashplan is more for those "oh poo poo my house burned" situations.
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astral posted:Huh, maybe one of these days I'll take Acronis up on one of those free-after-rebate deals. The 2016 and 2017 versions were not great. 2018 seems a bit better. My favorite version is 2014 actually but it will not work with NVMe drives.
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