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Henchman of Santa posted:Taibbi's very long apology Also, scroll down to underneath where it's posted again but not as one giant block of text.
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Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"?
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? PG Wodehouse?
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Paladin posted:PG Wodehouse? I always chalked that one up to people just assuming he was too clueless to know what he was doing rather than any effort on his part. Also, he spent the entire rest of his life in exile.
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I think the main appeal of the Russia stuff is seeing colorful crooks get caught and punished. There are a lot people who expect Trump and the Republican party to be embarrassed and Trump voters to finally catch on and abandon him, and they're foolish to believe that. However, a lot of people are just happy to see some people get what's coming to them, and that's probably what's going to happen. As for the substance of the Russia stuff, here's a Politico article featuring the actual factual Russian Facebook ads Three main takeaways here: 1) Whoever bought these particular ads spent about $1342 to do so, which is crazy, but... 2) The influence these ads had is all over the place. Politico leads with the Black Lives Matter ad, which had hundreds of thousands of impressions, but it's not as if Russia killed the black men featured in those ads or as if they were the impetus for talking bout their murders. I'd estimate the median amount of impressions these ads got is one thousand, which is pretty good for two bucks, but I would say not something that's going to drastically alter the electoral results. 3) These are the ads that were selected by the House intelligence panel to illustrate the effect Russia had with their ads. That means that these are probably the most effective ads representative of their style. In other words, that BLM ad is not the only BLM ad the Russians bought, but just the most popular. That means that all the other ads were probably not as effective. On the other hand, they could have bought a hundred of these ads each for about 100,000 dollars and gotten many more impressions than what we see here, which could have had a more substantial impact. It's hard to say. pospysyl fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? george w bush oh wait apologies never mind
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does "i'm sorry for getting caught" count?
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? slick willy
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? Mel Gibson is too good at making movies to be banished permanently. Unless he rapes or kills someone I guess.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Mel Gibson is too good at making movies to be banished permanently. Unless he rapes or kills someone I guess. that reminds me I'm about due for an apocalypto rewatch
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Sure. But Jeff Sessions being fired is still good. It's kind of like ISIS or al Quaeda, every time a high level guy gets killed or captured they get replaced with someone slightly less competent. So if Sessions gets indicted or fired or whatever, he will be replaced by someone even less cunning and more overtly racist who will hopefully flame out in even more spectacular fashion.
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? http://backissues.com/issue/Newsweek-May-19-1986
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Really sucks that TARFU is dead so soon. That was one of my favorite new political podcasts. I hope Taibbi can move on to something else soon.
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Nixon (and W) is exactly who I was thinking of. Just vanish for a bit, then show back up on the scene as if nothing had ever happened. Apologies are for chumps.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Really sucks that TARFU is dead so soon. That was one of my favorite new political podcasts. I hope Taibbi can move on to something else soon. Same but with Pareene. I've been reading that guy since his Wonkette/Salon days and he's always been a keen observer of political bullshit.
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Joementum posted:the "Jewel or Mao?" segment of the tarfu report is probably the most i've ever laughed at audio Malcolm Gladwell or Unabomber was the best of these.
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MikeCrotch posted:The problem is that liberals, the #resistance and the DNC are banking everything on the Trump investigation while furiously purging any vaguely left leaning people from Democratic party. I dunno. It depends on who you are talking about. Democratic voters' current priorities aren't 'Russia poo poo' and as far as I know, no one has been running for Congress or the Senate under a platform of 'Let's impeach Donald Trump because of Russia' just yet. Liberals and progressives have gotten involved more in things like the marches, the protests over the travel ban, the attempts at blocking AHCA passing, etc. The DNC does suck.
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The Russian Spectre is the phantasm which arose from the contradictions of the 2016 election. Interference is imagined to be the source of the contradictions, rather than a fantasy which attempts to resolve them *sniff*.
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Once the Russian bear is no longer a threat, we can finally come together and a nation to tackle the deficit and reform entitlements.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Democratic voters' current priorities aren't 'Russia poo poo' and as far as I know, no one has been running for Congress or the Senate under a platform of 'Let's impeach Donald Trump because of Russia' just yet. Liberals and progressives have gotten involved more in things like the marches, the protests over the travel ban, the attempts at blocking AHCA passing, etc.
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Halloween Jack posted:Sometimes we forget that your average Democratic voter, even your average middle-class liberal, is not as brain-worms crazy as the Hillary fan club on Twitter. Yes. People think Facebook is the worst but most people I actually know who support Hillary are in favor of many of the same things as I am, but just deluded into thinking she was gonna get them there. On twitter I just got crazy 8 percenter nonsense beamed into my feed by leftists I follow. For example: https://twitter.com/brandyljensen/status/926074858747908101
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774 Pretty crazy article about the DNC and Clinton campaign's shady financial shenanigans by... Donna Brazile?! quote:He described the party as fully under the control of Hillary’s campaign, which seemed to confirm the suspicions of the Bernie camp. The campaign had the DNC on life support, giving it money every month to meet its basic expenses, while the campaign was using the party as a fund-raising clearing house. quote:When I was manager of Gore’s campaign in 2000, we started inserting our people into the DNC in June. This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Is it felix or virgil who regularly joke about people turning into ribeye steaks like in cartoons chapo reality bending is real
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Henchman of Santa posted:Yes. People think Facebook is the worst but most people I actually know who support Hillary are in favor of many of the same things as I am, but just deluded into thinking she was gonna get them there. On twitter I just got crazy 8 percenter nonsense beamed into my feed by leftists I follow. My favorite Hillary Twitter person is Jen Kirkman https://twitter.com/JenKirkman/status/925927787998871552
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:My favorite Hillary Twitter person is Jen Kirkman This was me it wasn't but that theater is the local art house theater and they have retro movies on fridays
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:My favorite Hillary Twitter person is Jen Kirkman does she mean jew or what
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She said "Bernie Bro" and he booed her, so in her own words, she went on a long unfunny rant like any extremely normal comedian does when they get heckled.
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Where the gently caress is my Grey Wolf episode? I pay $1.25 for these episodes, I demand satisfaction!
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Weembles posted:Are there any examples of people who have been rehabilitated via apologies after the zeitgeist decides that they are "problematic"? I've only ever seen it lead to Twitter trolls racing to figure out who can accuse the dumb d-list twitter personality of the day of the most disingenuous thing possible without breaking character. What's weird is now I'm starting to see the twitter hivemind actually go after people who are somewhat capable of intellectually defending themselves. I'm not sure if that's just me being Really Online lately or if they've just gotten more ballsy lately. They Hunger.
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:My favorite Hillary Twitter person is Jen Kirkman lol this is amazing
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I thought the November 4th thing was some dumb left Twitter but it's an actual right wing psychosis?  Also, Matt confirmed as best Chapo. A nice steak for Thanksgiving is way better than some dry as gently caress turkey.
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Listening to this episode while getting to watch the twitter fury over Krang and Matt was truly great. Also Turkey is good as hell, but its the cranberry sauce / stuffing that bring it all together.
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The best way to serve a Thanksgiving turkey is already carved up, alongside the potatoes and gravy. My family has never carved a turkey at the Thanksgiving table, and I've never had dry turkey.
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Everyone should have a dry as a bone turkey once just so you have a true appreciation of gravy imo.
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Gravy is gross as hell. If the turkey isn't good I'll just help myself to more bread, sweet potatoes and stuffing.
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Turkey sucks, just roast a chicken or a duck in the oven. They taste better and are easier to make.
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