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Uroboros posted:Im surprised we haven't seen more of this. I remember a guy having a pretty vicious list at ATC.  They have nothing differentiating their normal units, they lack a lot of basic options, and Ravenwing are generally over-priced. Terminators are great though and pure Deathwing can be a lot of fun. It's a basically a series of giving no shits as you try to pound everything to death in melee. Safety Factor fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Anyone have some tips for this list before I assemble them all? ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [1565pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Black Templars + HQ + High Marshal Helbrecht [9 PL, 170pts] The Emperor's Champion [4 PL, 75pts] + Troops + Crusader Squad [9 PL, 130pts] . 9x Initiate . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword Crusader Squad [9 PL, 130pts] . 9x Initiate . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword Crusader Squad [5 PL, 65pts] . 4x Initiate . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword Crusader Squad [5 PL, 65pts] . 4x Initiate . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword + Heavy Support + Predator [9 PL, 191pts]: Predator autocannon, Storm bolter, Two Lascannons Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 363pts]: 2x Heavy flamer . Leviathan melee weapon: Leviathan siege claw, Meltagun . Leviathan melee weapon: Leviathan siege drill, Meltagun + Flyer + Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 274pts]: Twin assault cannon, Twin heavy bolter, Two Hurricane Bolters, Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 102pts]: Storm bolter, Twin assault cannon ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [420pts] ++ + HQ + Captain [5 PL, 77pts]: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun, Teeth of Terra + Elites + Cenobyte Servitors [1 PL, 6pts]: 3x Cenobyte Servitor Company Veterans [8 PL, 151pts] . Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma gun . Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma gun . Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma gun . Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma gun . Veteran Sergeant: Combi-plasma, Power sword Vanguard Veteran Squad [15 PL, 186pts]: Jump Pack . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword . Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Thunder hammer ++ Total: [115 PL, 1985pts] ++
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We have a 1500pt local tourney coming up. I don't plan on being hyper-competitive but want to run a fun fluffy list that can at least hang out a few games. I originally wanted to go full wraithhost but swapped out a wraithlord for a fire prism to get some extra firepower (losing a wraithguard unit in the process). Vanguard Detachment (+1 CP) HQ (1-2) Autarch 77 Spiritseer 45 Enhance/Drain Elites (3-6) Bonesinger 70 5 x Wraithguard 200 Wraithcannons 5 x Wraithblades 225 Ghostaxe & Forceshield Spearhead Detachment (+1 CP) HQ (1-2) Spiritseer 45 Quicken/Restrain Heavy Support (3-6) 1 x Wraithlord 151 Ghostglaive, 2 x Flamers, 2 x Shuriken Cannons 1 x Wraithlord 151 Ghostglaive, 2 x Flamers, 2 x Shuriken Cannons 1 x Fire Prism 165 Shuriken Cannon Flyer (0 -2) Hemlock Wraithfighter 210 Jinx Dedicated Transport Wave Serpent 154 Twin Shuriken Cannon, Shuriken Cannon, Star Engines, Vectored Engines 1493 Warlord: Autarch Relic: Psytronome of Iyanden (Spiritseer) Craftworld: Iyanden CP: 5 The idea being that the Fire Prism hangs out with the Autarch shooting poo poo. Wave Serpent with either wraithblades or wraithguard and bonesinger/spiritseer race up the field. The other wrait elite unit is kept in the webway. Meanwhile the other spiritseer escorts the 2 wraithlords up the field while providing a reroll bubble. And then the hemlock runs around murdering poo poo. I feel like this presents sufficient scary, and durable, targets to not present an obvious choice for turn 1 focus fire. Thoughts?
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Guys, how do I Exocrine? I've got two of them. Their output can be amazing - that's why they often get focused down asap. My big problem with them is that their output is drastically hampered by moving (Half shots and -2 to hit rolls). So right now, I often put them on the table threatening firing lanes turn 1. After facing a three Predator Abaddon killshot list that simply shot both of them turn 1, I'm starting to consider terrain - lacking an invul save, they are more fragile than they look and very susceptible to lasacannons. So this is largely table and enemy list dependent, but let's imagine I can only deploy them out of LOS so that they won't threaten anything without moving at least once, or in plain sight. Which would you choose?
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Has anyone used Kromlechs assault cannon turrets for the Razorback? Is the turret separate from the hatch? Meaning can it spin or pop off?
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Zuul the Cat posted:Has anyone used Kromlechs assault cannon turrets for the Razorback? Yes. I use them with the regular plastic hatch.
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Awesome, thanks! Just ordered two for my razorbacks.
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They're pretty fantastic, and those turrets are the same turrets used for their tarantula platforms.
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Cross posting from the painting thread.:Bucnasti posted:My Tiny Space Limeys now have their own tiny space Land Rovers.
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Bucnasti posted:Cross posting from the painting thread.: Judging by the flag, are you sure they aren't tiny space Canadians? Look great though, conversion kit works well. You're right that riding high is actually a lot closer to real life then all our warped sense of 40k aesthetics.
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bonds0097 posted:We have a 1500pt local tourney coming up. I don't plan on being hyper-competitive but want to run a fun fluffy list that can at least hang out a few games. I originally wanted to go full wraithhost but swapped out a wraithlord for a fire prism to get some extra firepower (losing a wraithguard unit in the process). I’d probably swap the star engines on the wave serpent for upgrading the turret gun to a twin starcannons if you can? I’d also use your other six spare points to stick a crystal targeting matrix on the prism because why not. It’s very different to the kinds of armies I like to run, so I’m not certain how to evaluate it, but I think it’s fine on paper. My main worry would be that you’re a bit short on long range anti tank, and vulnerable to massed heavy infantry if your fire prism gets blown up.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Judging by the flag, are you sure they aren't tiny space Canadians? Look great though, conversion kit works well. You're right that riding high is actually a lot closer to real life then all our warped sense of 40k aesthetics. If they ever redesign the Leman Russ, I hope they give it some kind of mechanically-plausible suspension. It's not like there aren't loads of inter-war tanks with appropriately bizarre designs to draw upon. 
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Bucnasti posted:Cross posting from the painting thread.:  Hot drat.I recommend this kit otherwise if you want wheels for your Taurox. Still need to finish mine. Even if I botched the priming a little and got it on a bit too thick at places.
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One_Wing posted:I’d probably swap the star engines on the wave serpent for upgrading the turret gun to a twin starcannons if you can? I’d also use your other six spare points to stick a crystal targeting matrix on the prism because why not. Well, the reason I went with star engines and vectored engines was so i could advance up the field very quickly and get the -1 to be hit. Since I'm planning to advance, I wouldn't be able to shoot the star cannons, which is why I kept the shuriken cannons. Definitely want the crystal targeting matrix. I could possibly tweak things to make one of the wraithlords bright lance dudes but I guess i just wanted to charge them in and beat tanks to death with their hands. My hope is that I'm durable enough to get close enough to the big tanks and shoot them, particularly with the wave serpent and a deepstrike wraith unit. Dropping a unit of wraithguard 9" from a tank should be sufficient to do some serious damage or possibly kill it outright if i have a reroll bubble in range. I do wish I had more S6 shots with AP, shuriken cannons are ok but AP0 blows and star cannons only do 2 shots. Ill have to playtest this stuff casually because its also way different from my usual, I typically go all aspect warriors with tons of bodies.
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Cooked Auto posted:
Yeah Victoria Miniatures makes a really nice 4x4 kit as well, but I wanted 6x6. Blood and Skulls makes this one, it's good and more affordable than others, but It uses the stock Taurox suspension so it doesn't line up with the fenders the way I would like. It's the type of thing only I will notice though.
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So I took a first crack at my first ever 8th edition list and it looks something like the following, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it knowing nothing about any of the other armies. Biel-Tan Brigade - 9 CP - 1999 Points - Autarch w/ Faolchu's Wing - Skyrunner Farseer - Skyrunner Warlock - Maugan Ra - x5 Fire Dragons, Exarch - Wave Serpent - x5 Fire Dragons, Exarch - Wave Serpent - x5 Wraithguard, Wraithcannon (Webway) - x5 Dire Avengers, Exarch - x5 Dire Avengers, Exarch - x5 Dire Avengers, Exarch - x5 Dire Avengers, Exarch - x5 Rangers - x5 Rangers - x5 Warp Spiders, Exarch - x5 Warp Spiders, Exarch - x3 Jetbikes - x4 Dark Reapers, Exarch - x4 Dark Reapers, Exarch - Fire Prism
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah Victoria Miniatures makes a really nice 4x4 kit as well, but I wanted 6x6. Blood and Skulls makes this one, it's good and more affordable than others, but It uses the stock Taurox suspension so it doesn't line up with the fenders the way I would like. It's the type of thing only I will notice though. I went with the Zinge kit because it was both nice and simple, not to mention affordable.  I mean the Victoria one is really astounding but also kinda pricey.
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Hey Eldorks, if I wanted to make a Wraithhost style army, what are some best practices for that? MSU's or maxed out units? D-Cannons or D-Scythes? Wraithlords what do? I bought a Wraithseer on a whim and quite fancy dusting off my Altansar army.
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah Victoria Miniatures makes a really nice 4x4 kit as well, but I wanted 6x6. Blood and Skulls makes this one, it's good and more affordable than others, but It uses the stock Taurox suspension so it doesn't line up with the fenders the way I would like. It's the type of thing only I will notice though. I had thought about getting a kit and cutting the fenders where they join the hull, then re-angling them into a more pronounced wheel well. Work would be covered up by putty, card strips with rivets, or just extra kit on top of the fender. Think that might work on the kit?
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Stratagems are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/02/codex-tyranids-preview-stratagems/ "There are many, many more Stratagems in the book, and thanks to efficient options in every slot, you’ll have no trouble at all filling Brigade and Battalion detachments out to give you the Command Points to use them; indeed, taking only the most low-cost units in every slot, you can get a battalion in your army for only 699 points." TKIY fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Is there a good list of all the Goon-approved aftermarket retailers? I know of Kromlech, Victoria Miniatures, and Pig Iron Productions. Who else do you guys like?
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Zuul the Cat posted:Has anyone used Kromlechs assault cannon turrets for the Razorback? Booley posted:Yes. I use them with the regular plastic hatch. I just picked up 3 Razorback kits to arm with Twin Assault Cannons. Do the bits not come in the box? Or do Kromlech's just look cooler? I can only see the FW version at https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Razorback-Assault-Cannon-Turret so is the Kromlech one you're looking at https://bitsofwar.com/home/665-twin-minigun-turret.html ?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Is there a good list of all the Goon-approved aftermarket retailers? I know of Kromlech, Victoria Miniatures, and Pig Iron Productions. Who else do you guys like? I'm really happy with my stuff from Anvil Industries.
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Harkano posted:I just picked up 3 Razorback kits to arm with Twin Assault Cannons. Do the bits not come in the box? Or do Kromlech's just look cooler? They do not. The box only comes with Las or Heavy Bolters. Those are the Kromlech ones I grabbed.
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TKIY posted:Stratagems are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/02/codex-tyranids-preview-stratagems/ The top tier being Guard, Nids, Eldar and Chaos is going to be too funny next time someone starts complaining about Space Marines.
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Question regarding Deathwatch Special Ammo - do you pick what ammo you'll be using prior to the game, or can you pick rounds before each shooting phase?
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TKIY posted:Stratagems are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/02/codex-tyranids-preview-stratagems/ I don't know if it's a typo of not, but they mention a 40-model unit of Termagants.  Time for 240 Devourer shots!
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Fun thing which no doubt GW will errata/faq sometime: RAW Broodlords can't eat brains because the stratagem says Genestealer and not GENESTEALER.
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Harkano posted:I just picked up 3 Razorback kits to arm with Twin Assault Cannons. Do the bits not come in the box? Or do Kromlech's just look cooler? Yeah, those are the kromlech ones I have. A lot cheaper than either the forgeworld ones or trying to find the land raider crusader/redeemer ones on ebay. Can't use them in a GW store sadly if that's your only option to play.
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Booley posted:Yeah, those are the kromlech ones I have. A lot cheaper than either the forgeworld ones or trying to find the land raider crusader/redeemer ones on ebay. Can't use them in a GW store sadly if that's your only option to play. Zuul the Cat posted:They do not. The box only comes with Las or Heavy Bolters. Those are the Kromlech ones I grabbed. Thanks. Guess I'm not getting started on those kits tonight. Luckily I've got enough other stuff to put together.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Is there a good list of all the Goon-approved aftermarket retailers? I know of Kromlech, Victoria Miniatures, and Pig Iron Productions. Who else do you guys like? Puppetswar also does great bits like heads and weapons, really good quality resin. Scibor is also good for some stuff. Wargame Exclusive has great chaos bits like shoulder pads, helmets, etc. Ignore the boobs.
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TKIY posted:Stratagems are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/02/codex-tyranids-preview-stratagems/ I assume they mean Brigade - a 700 point Battalion isn't very impressive.
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Yeah you can fit a Battalion into 306 points with two Neurothropes and three squads unupgraded Warriors (without any of the codex discounts, even)
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Gw are so bad at writing clear rules. "If a zoanthrope unit from your army consisting of at least 3 models is within 6" of another 2 such units" So does that mean your enemy has to be fielding zoanthropes too? Rules as Written thats how it works. I think they meant 2 enemy units of at least 3 models but god drat guys, be clear when writing rules!
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