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JcDent posted:One time I was a Rogue Trader, I was super protective of my redshirts and always looked after Imperium's interests. Ah the long con. I like it. Get the rep as a good guy to work for and loyal to the Imperium and it will mean less visits from the Inquisition and less crew members grassing you up in ports for your shady shenanigans
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JcDent posted:One time I was a Rogue Trader, I was super protective of my redshirts and always looked after Imperium's interests. Same but my table-top Imperial Guardsmen. I didn't win very often back when I played.
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I wanted to play as IG on the table because I felt like Space Marines, as elites, should by played by an elite player. Of course, IG is the worst army for me to play - a lot of painting, a lot of dying - so I'm playing Space Marines. And losing.
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Oct 5, 2017 19:25
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JcDent posted:I wanted to play as IG on the table because I felt like Space Marines, as elites, should by played by an elite player. Sounds like you need More Tanks. The answer is always More Tanks.
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Oct 5, 2017 19:47
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But then you don't really have Guardsmen, do ya? Though I'd love to cram 500pts of carapace Veterans (if they were a thing) into a Stormlord for a 1000pts army. Can't wait for the new dex. Speaking of tabletops: dice and probabilities. I still don't understand why using, say, a d20 in Infinity is bad. Sure, you have equal chances to roll any of the 20 numbers, but you're not rolling for actual numbers. If you're rolling under 15, you have a no poo poo better probability to roll better than someone who rolls under 11.
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Oct 5, 2017 19:58
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Ashcans posted:Well surely that's just because he didn't know to recite the Litany of the Vacuum; if he had done so, the Emperor would have shielded him. The Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer is a work of art. So much fun.
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:The Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer is a work of art. So much fun. I really liked it better than the Munitorum Manual, the IIUP is some of the better parody I've read because it (unlike the MM) takes itself completely seriously.
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JcDent posted:But then you don't really have Guardsmen, do ya? Though I'd love to cram 500pts of carapace Veterans (if they were a thing) into a Stormlord for a 1000pts army. Flat distribution vs bell curve. I don't really care either way but I guess a single d20 offers simplicity at the expense of getting a binary output (success/fail), while multiple d6 give you granularity in your results (e.g. a high chance of doing ok and a small chance of doing better than ok), at the expense of taking longer. I don't know how Infinity works so I might be inferring wrong.
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Infinity is a roll under system, so in a simple test, you try to roll under your score, but more than the opponent. If you roll the exact number, it's a crit. Units skills usually hover in the 11-15 range, but you can get a lot of modifiers.
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EthanSteele posted:If they needed helmets then you'd give them helmets, obviously. But they don't need them, because they are loyal and the Emperor Protects those who are loyal. Pancake Tuesday or Waffle Wednesday has shown to increase crew satisfaction by at least 10%. Most of them don't even know what a pancake or a waffle is so its easy to trick them at no extra cost. All Rogue Traders are bastards and I love it. Look, helmets and space suits are available at the company store for only a modest markup. The crew can use their company scrip to pay for them, assuming they feel the need to buy those things over, I dunno, toothpaste and food and whatever else we sell at the company store.
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Oct 7, 2017 05:30
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So now that I have some experience with DW and DH (and less experience with RT), what PC stuff is OP/broken in Only War? I'm not even asking if there is some blatantly broken stuff, because I'm sure there's something!
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JcDent posted:So now that I have some experience with DW and DH (and less experience with RT), what PC stuff is OP/broken in Only War? Krak missiles, and by extent any high pen weapons. That sounds like a joke, but in a game where you're guardsmen, if you throw traitor marines at them, they won't have the requisite "oh poo poo" factor when the heavy basically kills them with one krak. Which I know is technically in line with the lore, but still.
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JcDent posted:One time I was a Rogue Trader, I was super protective of my redshirts and always looked after Imperium's interests. Ugh, get a load of this guy playing Chartist Captain RPG.
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Werix posted:Krak missiles, and by extent any high pen weapons. That sounds like a joke, but in a game where you're guardsmen, if you throw traitor marines at them, they won't have the requisite "oh poo poo" factor when the heavy basically kills them with one krak. Yeah, it's kind of sad that you can start with a Plasma Cannon - I mean, half the charm of being in the Guard is experiencing lovely situations. I'm happy my first guard experience was playing Dark Heresy 
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JcDent posted:One time I was a Rogue Trader, I was super protective of my redshirts and always looked after Imperium's interests. Well of course you should be protective of the other PCs - who will you have do stuff for you otherwise? All things aside - it's not a bad thing to be protective of the crew as a whole, because low ship population is most definitely bad news for you in any sort of encounter.
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Oct 27, 2017 16:10
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Out there the galaxy under the emperors shining radiance, a chaos storm long thought to be eternal subsides. From the now blocked regions comes the most horrifying group the Imperium has faced. The Occupation Injury Securium commitee.
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Tias posted:Yeah, it's kind of sad that you can start with a Plasma Cannon - I mean, half the charm of being in the Guard is experiencing lovely situations. There are only two kinds of cannon a Guardsman team should be lugging around: lascannon and autocannon. Leave plasma to marines 
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JcDent posted:So now that I have some experience with DW and DH (and less experience with RT), what PC stuff is OP/broken in Only War? Only War has a very sharp titration point where it goes from Enemy at the Gates to The Expendables, it starts after the first mission where everyone (hopefully buys dodge), and comes fully around 2500-3000 exp when they start firing krak rockets with the accurate tag. I suppose its not so much "broken" as possibly jarring compared to what the typical guard experience is expected to be. (Granted, even some of the source material supports superheroic veteran guard. Remember the Gaunts Ghosts who have names rarely die and some of them once shanked an inquisitor and got away with it.) The counterpoint to this is even when/if they're all rolling in storm trooper carapace and/or are ogryns, guard are squishy to battlefield level weapons. DH acolytes rarely get shot at with 2 or 3d10+X weapons, OW pcs often do. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Guard Vets are mega badasses with like meltas and plasmas and poo poo, so it fits the source material well.
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Suicide melta vet is as much a viable type in OW as it is on tabletop.
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JcDent posted:There are only two kinds of cannon a Guardsman team should be lugging around: lascannon and autocannon. Leave plasma to marines I had my men try to infiltrate an enemy held city to capture a colossal( and, it turned out, pretty temperamental) plasma cannon secreted away in a cathedral - this was back when their squad was requisitioned as repo men by the Departmento Munitorum. They had to sneak through the sewers, then realized a xenos armour brigade with dreads and human slave soldiers was no fun, and had to hide day to day. Good fun, would do again.
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I am now contemplating running a Rogue Trader game. I'm calling it - 2 Rogue 2 Trader: Slinnar Drift I think the overall theme is 'Wacky Races in 40k'. The idea/campaign will require more thought (although it should be fairly linear?) before it's ready, but I was wondering if the thread had some thoughts on what would make it gold.
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Make it the 40K equivalent to Blood Bowl. All the factions set aside their differences to race in the Galactic Prix through the Webway, across worlds and space hulks, as violently as possible.
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Oct 31, 2017 17:00
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Deathrace 40,000 run by the Deldar for shits and giggles? They're the premier webway abusers, they could make it happen.
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Or run by the Orks. One old Ork special character was a Speed Freek biker warboss who wanted only to ride his bike from one end of the galaxy to the other.
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Could do something similar to like the Kessel Run. There is some old smuggling route that isn't used anymore, but bored rich rogue traders run the route out of boredom. Or an around the world in 80 days scenario where every like 10 years some rogue traders get together to do a race from one sector capital to another. First one there wins a big purse. You are allowed to sabotage other racers, directly attack them, etc. Taking shortcuts through warp storms, paying off planet officials to impound rivals, and the like.
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Could even have a loony Necron like Trazyn or Zahndrekh running it. An ancient Necrontyr contest of piloting skill, cunning, and engineering prowess and the winner gets a planet or other neat prize, and the Overlord running it is either senile and thinks everyone's a Necron, or knowingly opens it up to lesser races.
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 here I found some character portraits for the competitors
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Shred is d-d-dominating the race! Edit: drat it Blizzard, give us a new R&RR
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If you really want to go full 40K, you could make the racecourse so mindbogglingly huge it's a multigenerational affair, where Rogue Trading is something you do to support yourself during the race. Maybe the race is older than humanity, and the Eldar were the favorites to win before the Eye of Terror blasted them off track. And what's the prize? "Is *RECORDS MISSING* really worth dedicating generations to winning?"
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Pit crews squatting in abandoned space stations, where entire generations of people have spent their entire lives training day and night to be prepared for that sacred vessel foretold in ancient prophecy that once restored to glory, will take them to the Emperor's side
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Rockopolis posted:If you really want to go full 40K, you could make the racecourse so mindbogglingly huge it's a multigenerational affair, where Rogue Trading is something you do to support yourself during the race. Maybe the race is older than humanity, and the Eldar were the favorites to win before the Eye of Terror blasted them off track. "A one terra standard year gap separates the lead and the second place runners, the closest the gap has been in at least a millennia!"
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Nov 2, 2017 04:10
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God, it's like 17776 all over again.
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Eponymous posted:God, it's like 17776 all over again. Jon Bois is a national treasure.
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Make it like the Amazing Race and throw in some challenges at each activity. Rogue Karters. Final track is driving go-karts through the Webway. Watch out for the Tyrant from Hive Fleet Koopa, he's flinging gaunt chitin at the other racers.
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Ships are big and warp travel is unpredictable. Make it a harlequin run ground race. You start on a planet, race to a webway gate, get refreshed and repaired there, get out of the gate on another planet and continue from there.
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JcDent posted:Ships are big and warp travel is unpredictable. If you arrive one week before you left, does that count as cheating?
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Chiwie posted:If you arrive one week before you left, does that count as cheating? Only if there are surviving witnesses!
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I just realized I've been imagining the Webway as Rainbow Road this whole time.
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moths posted:I just realized I've been imagining the Webway as Rainbow Road this whole time. It's the Checkered Prick Road.
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