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fishmech posted:Lol yeah it'd be like someone complaining "And why do all these discussions about Northern Irish politics keep talking about religion?". All I wanted to do was listen to a podcast about the Age of Revolutions in the late 18th to 20th centuries and that damned SJW Mike Duncan wont stop talking about social structures and class equity!
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Goon Danton posted:Not quite all of it! He made a joke on twitter that history ended in 1914, and everything after that is current events. He seems to have deleted it though. he drat well better not stop until well after 1917
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He done did it: https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/925862215206531072
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CharlestheHammer posted:Like anything that downplays the importance of race in American politics is by default trash. Agreed, but it doesn't seem like Carlin does that either. So I'm still confused about why people seem to hate him. But whatever I guess.
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Hazborgufen posted:So I'm still confused about why people seem to hate him. Some people just can't handle a persons politics not being 100% aligned with their own
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Hazborgufen posted:Agreed, but it doesn't seem like Carlin does that either. So I'm still confused about why people seem to hate him. But whatever I guess. I haven't seen it but from what they describe it's just banal both sides are wrong trash. Not really offensive but not really useful. That being said I don't think anyone has said they hated him. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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It's time for a Triumph! Although I'm deeply curious how many sales it actually received. I always thought it would take many more sales to be a NYT bestseller.
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golden bubble posted:It's time for a Triumph! Mike Duncan riding a chariot down the streets of Madison, Wisconsin. Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds in chains behind him, awaiting public execution at the climax of the celebration
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Mike Duncan created a podcast and called it history. (Heck yeah, I'm starting on my copy tonight)
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Antares posted:"jinguz khan" never forget. This is correct tho
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golden bubble posted:It's time for a Triumph! Although I'm deeply curious how many sales it actually received. I always thought it would take many more sales to be a NYT bestseller. is there some lag before the list is updated? either yes or I’m terrible at finding the right list on the nyt site
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golden bubble posted:It's time for a Triumph! Although I'm deeply curious how many sales it actually received. I always thought it would take many more sales to be a NYT bestseller. Annual Prophet posted:is there some lag before the list is updated? either yes or I’m terrible at finding the right list on the nyt site Two things: 1) The NYT bestseller list as published usually has some lag time. For example, the current bestseller list will show up in the November 5th issue, and it's for the week ending October 21. So the list you can see right now isn't including that book at all - if I remember it is long standing tradition that the lists are delayed this way so that there's time to investigate any fraudulent things before it goes to the paper. However, the data is already in and continuing to come in, and the staff at NYT lets authors know when their book has passed the threshold to be a bestseller - intended to be so that the author and their publisher can start to order a new print run with a "New York Times Bestseller!!!!" label in there and have it ready to be on store shelves when the list comes out. So that's how you can't see him on the lists yet, but he knows it made the cut. 2) Most weeks of the year, it doesn't take all that many books sold to be a bestseller. Usually you make the top 10/top 15 cut (it depends on category of list) with something on the order of 5,000-20,000 copies sold throughout most of the year. Of course other times of the year you might need a lot more, especially if you're going up against several big-name author releases in one week. You might remember that scandal over the summer where some lovely young adult novel got #1 bestseller in fiction, with just ~2500 copies sold (mostly to agents of the publisher), because they did it on a July or August week that's usually a low point for book sales in the year.
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fishmech posted:Two things: The publisher also ordered books from one of the bookstores the NYT uses to estimate sales. Plus the NYT Bestseller list involves variables like "author works/worked at nyt, so lets include him in the charts", it's not entirely based on numbers.
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Mike Duncan did another AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/7abooa/i_am_mike_duncan_author_of_the_storm_before_the/?st=J9JWN4HH&sh=ae0e3af9
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He knew what he was in for. https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/925388432901398528
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CharlestheHammer posted:I haven't seen it but from what they describe it's just banal both sides are wrong trash. It's not that. The only "both sides" thing I can think of is he thinks both parties are corrupt and benefit from institutionalized corruption, resisting change in order to maintain that system, which is just a correct statement. He doesn't like the Democratic party but he dislikes the Republicans a whole lot more.
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420 Gank Mid posted:All I wanted to do was listen to a podcast about the Age of Revolutions in the late 18th to 20th centuries and that damned SJW Mike Duncan wont stop talking about social structures and class equity! Bohemian Nights posted:Some people just can't handle a persons politics not being 100% aligned with their own I was just listening to episode 3.30 of Revolutions where he does the Q&A and I was kind of surprised and disappointed by how he talked about Marxism. I mean I know he's not a Marxist, he said as much in the first episode, but he said something like "even as a teenager I wasn't that dumb" when he talked about how his interest in the Russian Revolution wasn't motivated by a love of Marx or communist theory.
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I mean there's a lot of things that go on in the Russian revolution, but adherence to Marx and Communist theory, not really one of them.
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Pomplamoose posted:I was just listening to episode 3.30 of Revolutions where he does the Q&A and I was kind of surprised and disappointed by how he talked about Marxism. I mean I know he's not a Marxist, he said as much in the first episode, but he said something like "even as a teenager I wasn't that dumb" when he talked about how his interest in the Russian Revolution wasn't motivated by a love of Marx or communist theory. Which implies that only dumb people could possibly be Marxists or communists, putting in doubt his ability to understand the Russian Revolution. "So this bunch of dumb people wanted to get rid of the Tsar ..."
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outlier posted:Which implies that only dumb people could possibly be Marxists or communists, putting in doubt his ability to understand the Russian Revolution. "So this bunch of dumb people wanted to get rid of the Tsar ..." I really don't think Mike Duncan is going to talk about his favourite revolution, the reason he started the Revolutions podcast, in such a bone-headed way.
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He consistently gives a lot of sympathy to groups like the Enragès, and his coverage of 1830 was really heavy on the idea of the bourgeoisie betraying the proletariat for their own gain, but without using those terms specifically. He doesn't use the terminology, but his sympathies seem to line up with theirs, so it will be interesting to see how he covers things in 1848 when the actual socialists start showing up.
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This week's Citations Needed is good. It's about "gentrifiers" acting like they're colonizing/settling places where other people already live. https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-15-the-real-estate-page-as-colonial-dispatch
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Tbf I think Duncan is good at retelling secondary source material, he's not necessarily the guy I'd turn to for political assessments. The way he depicts history and events always has a scholastic tidyness to it... the lack of ambiguity probably makes for an easier listening experience. He's a text-to-speech Wikipedia entry, not Hobsbawm 2.0.
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Can anyone recommend a good resource for German (or general European) history pre-20th century?
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mike12345 posted:Tbf I think Duncan is good at retelling secondary source material, he's not necessarily the guy I'd turn to for political assessments. The way he depicts history and events always has a scholastic tidyness to it... the lack of ambiguity probably makes for an easier listening experience. He's a text-to-speech Wikipedia entry, not Hobsbawm 2.0. There was also the weird way he seemed to imply the free market reforms done by the French crown was good and the peasants were being unreasonable for being against the price gouging.
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Goon Danton posted:He consistently gives a lot of sympathy to groups like the Enragès, and his coverage of 1830 was really heavy on the idea of the bourgeoisie betraying the proletariat for their own gain, but without using those terms specifically. He doesn't use the terminology, but his sympathies seem to line up with theirs, so it will be interesting to see how he covers things in 1848 when the actual socialists start showing up. He's been covering that for the past couple of episodes.
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CharlestheHammer posted:There was also the weird way he seemed to imply the free market reforms done by the French crown was good and the peasants were being unreasonable for being against the price gouging. That was not the tone taken at all.
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CharlestheHammer posted:There was also the weird way he seemed to imply the free market reforms done by the French crown was good and the peasants were being unreasonable for being against the price gouging. If that is honestly what you inferred, I have bad news for you: you are dumb.
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fishmech posted:He's been covering that for the past couple of episodes. Yeah, but they haven't really done anything yet. Albert the Worker and Louis Blanc just got brought in to the provisional government before he moved on to Austria. Anyway just like everything else about judging peoples' ideological correctness wrt socialism, it will come down to how he talks about the Paris Commune. Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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Rodyle posted:That was not the tone taken at all. If only they had given him more time! They just did this reform at an unlucky time!
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You seem to have an ideological axe to grind dude.
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CharlestheHammer posted:If only they had given him more time! They just did this reform at an unlucky time! If that is honestly what you inferred, I have bad news for you: you are dumb.
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http://datastori.es/ Podcast on data visualization, they have interesting guests every now and then
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Lawman 0 posted:You seem to have an ideological axe to grind dude. Not really, it was just jarring, he is fine most of the time. In fact I think it's the only time it was really a thing.
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Dan Carlin is going to be on Rogan's podcast later today.
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Fictional is probably not for everyone but if you like it (or the Myths and Legends podcast), he just did Call of Cthulhu (two episodes).
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Digital Jedi posted:Dan Carlin is going to be on Rogan's podcast later today. Carlin go on Chapo
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Lawman 0 posted:Carlin go on Chapo And Cumtown.
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Lawman 0 posted:Carlin go on Chapo 
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