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Penpal posted:That's why films should have all magical powers imbued within something, that way there's no question. You caught the magic softball? Now you have powers. You drank the magic gin and tonic? Powers. Caught the magic fish? Powers. Opened the magic book? Powers. Austin? Powers. But you can't have them all because it goes against the Kanye Rule.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Pretty sure Dodonna or whatever his name is says "May the force be with you" as they are on their way to attack the Death Star. Well poo poo, looks like I was wrong. That might explain why I've never seen my specific complaint anywhere.
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Nov 2, 2017 10:12
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Nobody comments on Thor's new ally in Ragnarok being a literal, honest to god slaver. She profits from the death and misery of people either kidnapped or stolen away from their homes. At least Loki has a half-arsed "well we can't trust him" moment (even if the fanbase and producers do seem intent on redeeming that dickhead...), but man that really leapt out at me.
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Nov 2, 2017 10:15
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Stranger Things 2: What happened to the turtle?
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Henchman of Santa posted:Stranger Things 2: What happened to the turtle? #justiceforturtle
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poptart_fairy posted:Nobody comments on Thor's new ally in Ragnarok being a literal, honest to god slaver. She profits from the death and misery of people either kidnapped or stolen away from their homes. He has a slave ally, too. Who, to be honest, gets just as much characterization as the Valkyrie. He also overthrows Goldblum's entire slaving regime, so it's not like Thor is asking a slaver's help to get more slaves or something.
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Han tell Luke, "May the Force be with you," right before Luke goes off to blow up the Death Star in A New Hope.
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Something from Life. Yes, I know if you allow an alien organism onto Earth there's a chance it carries a disease or something that will gently caress your poo poo up. But the part where the female scientist sends her warning message about how this thing is a threat to ALL HUMAN LIFE and must be destroyed AT ALL COSTS just seemed way out of proportion. I mean, it's a dog sized alien that's strong enough to squish you with its tentacles. Which, by the way, would not enable it to move very well under normal gravity. We know it's at least mildly flame-retardant because that's literally all they tried to kill it with, but you'd basically have gotten the same result if you released a raging panther on their space station and you wouldn't call the panther a threat to all human existence. Like, why are they so convinced the alien will destroy Earth and won't just be killed by the first human with a gun it encounters? It has shown nothing to suggest it's particularly dangerous to anything but unarmed idiots in the same room.
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jabby posted:Something from Life. Calvin was from a Mars rock, right? I think the implication is that it wiped out all life on Mars millions of years ago and then went into some sort of hibernation state.
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Armacham posted:Calvin was from a Mars rock, right? I think the implication is that it wiped out all life on Mars millions of years ago and then went into some sort of hibernation state. Maybe Mars was full of wusses.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:10
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Life. Don't talk to me about Life.
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Imagined posted:Life. Don't talk to me about Life. <3
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Armacham posted:Calvin was from a Mars rock, right? I think the implication is that it wiped out all life on Mars millions of years ago and then went into some sort of hibernation state. If it was they didn't imply it very hard. They never mention any other life on Mars, just that Calvin hibernates when environmental conditions aren't right. And even if Calvin's species did wipe out all the life, that doesn't mean a single creature could do the same. It's a pretty big jump to even assume it can reproduce on it's own. Basically it felt like they were going for an 'Alien' vibe but the Alien wasn't nearly as threatening. No implication that it was the perfect biological weapon, no acidic blood, no proven method of reproduction. Just doesn't scream 'the planet is in danger'.
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I thought it basically eats any carbon-molecules? ie life on earth?
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Alexander Hamilton posted:Han tell Luke, "May the Force be with you," right before Luke goes off to blow up the Death Star in A New Hope. Yeah but he was cynical about it before that. I read it as "I may not believe in your religion, but I dont have to be a dick about it". The question is if it was in common parlance at the time, and its hard to say.
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Powaqoatse posted:I thought it basically eats any carbon-molecules? ie life on earth? So do I.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah but he was cynical about it before that. I read it as "I may not believe in your religion, but I dont have to be a dick about it". Beardy dude doing the briefing for the first Death Star attack ends with "Man your ships. And may the Force be with you." Certainly seems to be in use with the Rebels.
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Sunswipe posted:Beardy dude doing the briefing for the first Death Star attack ends with "Man your ships. And may the Force be with you." Certainly seems to be in use with the Rebels. I cant believe I didnt remember that. Absolutely fair.
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jabby posted:Basically it felt like they were going for an 'Alien' vibe but the Alien wasn't nearly as threatening. No implication that it was the perfect biological weapon, no acidic blood, no proven method of reproduction. Just doesn't scream 'the planet is in danger'.
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jabby posted:If it was they didn't imply it very hard. They never mention any other life on Mars, just that Calvin hibernates when environmental conditions aren't right. I think it's a pretty realistic portrayal of what we'd do in real life if faced with the same situation. One might assume that bullets or bombs or whatever should be able to kill it, but they don't know that or how big it can get or how it would function in earth's atmosphere. You're probably right that it wasn't a global threat, but from a government/military perspective it makes more sense to sacrifice a handful of scientists instead of risking a lot more civilians dying before they figure out how to kill it, even if it's a small risk. "They knew what they signed up for" etc.
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The ending of Life was so loving terrible. The whole "oh there are two capsules and they bang into each other and tumble around and who knows which one will end up on earth isnt' this tense!" thing was just predictable as gently caress. Also yeah, it didn't show any way of reproducing or spreading besides building a home out of Jake Gyllenhaal so whats it gonna do, eat every human one by one and grow a couple centimeters every time? How will the collective military strength of planet earth ever counter that!
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Shai-Hulud posted:The ending of Life was so loving terrible. The whole "oh there are two capsules and they bang into each other and tumble around and who knows which one will end up on earth isnt' this tense!" thing was just predictable as gently caress. Also yeah, I agree about the ending. In theory though he could just hang out in the ocean for a while eating whales and stuff (assuming he can swim) until he got uncontrollably large. I just assume since it's a scifi movie that something would backfire trying to deal with it with traditional ways. Like every time there's some threat and a general suggests shooting/nuking it, it ends up making the thing stronger, or at best is just unaffected.
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They already did that, it was called Evolution.
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Evolution was head and shoulders above the drivel of today. 
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The problem was it could do all that from a single cell or whatever it was they found. So you'd have to destroy it absolutely completely to avoid it continually resurging and growing big and loving poo poo up again, probably as multiple creatures spreading in random directions. Like, the ocean is full of fish and home to a ton of biomass that'd be converted into a LOT of those fuckers before any decent response could even be planned much less executed. I saw it as a dumb 80s horror film with a higher budget, but the creature itself and its threat to Earth seemed pretty plausible to me, from what was shown on screen. Tiggum posted:Was there even any of that "threat to the world" stuff in the first Alien movie? Isn't it just a threat to them because they're a small crew in the middle of nowhere isolated from all possible help? The Alien in the first movie didn't threaten the world per se, but The Company wanted it for weird and probably hosed up research. I forget if they mention something like "biological weapons division" but either way, it was definitely a bad thing to let it come back. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 13:02 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Evolution was head and shoulders above the drivel of today.  (I could not resist!  )
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VideoGames posted:
I was going to do the same thing, except I'm phone posting.
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Powaqoatse posted:The Alien in the first movie didn't threaten the world per se, but The Company wanted it for weird and probably hosed up research. I forget if they mention something like "biological weapons division" but either way, it was definitely a bad thing to let it come back.
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I only half paid attention when I was watching Life but I thought the idea was that it adapted to its environment and its needs. So yeah, it was a dog-sized monster with tentacles in the space station, but only because that was the best size and shape to survive at that moment. I figured it would grow out of control on earth and become increasingly hard to kill, let alone kill completely.
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It's basically The Thing without the shapeshifting/assimilation. Also a displacer beast.
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Sunswipe posted:If they didn't mention it, it would be the only piece of Alien fiction that didn't. It must be possible to come up with some plotline other than "Assholes are trying to use xenomorphs as weapons, xenos get out of control, ninety minutes of gore and jumpscares, someone escapes." The only reason the Nostromo even went to LV-426 is because Mother detected the signal from the Star Jockey craft and the Company wants to get its hands on any alien technology. And then remember that Bilbo Baggins was trying to use the crew as incubators to bring back the Xenomorph.
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Armacham posted:The only reason the Nostromo even went to LV-426 is because Mother detected the signal from the Star Jockey craft and the Company wants to get its hands on any alien technology. And then remember that Bilbo Baggins was trying to use the crew as incubators to bring back the Xenomorph. Yeah but I think we only know that they want it, not what they want it for. Paging Xenomrph
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Zach Snyder should make Superman vs Aliens. That seems to be right up his alley.
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Somehow Snyder would make the Xenomorphs the heroes in that version of his film.
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Armacham posted:The only reason the Nostromo even went to LV-426 is because Mother detected the signal from the Star Jockey craft and the Company wants to get its hands on any alien technology. And then remember that Napoleon Bonaparte was trying to use the crew as incubators to bring back the Xenomorph. FTFY
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Android Apocalypse posted:Somehow Snyder would make the Xenomorphs the heroes in that version of his film. A film from a xeno point of view would be interesting, but if Snyder made it they'd spend all their time looking up cheerleaders' skirts tut-tuting Superman for touching the cheerleaders when he "saved" them
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Gosford Park has so many characters. I like it a lot because I enjoy mysteries (I reckon it should've won the Oscars that year instead of A Beautiful Mind) but there's just so many characters I always have a hard time remembering who's who, because everyone seems to have about three different names each.
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My Irrationally Irritating TV Moment is shows addressing criticism against the show by having a character in the show literally present those criticisms at the plot. I don’t know how many shows have done this, but I noticed it in both Sherlock and Stranger Things. By all means, creators should improve from season to season based off criticism they receive. Having an actual in-universe character comment about it comes across as a little petty, which is weird for me because I’m usually for meta stuff. (And admittedly, Stranger Things was much more graceful in its approach than Sherlock, but it still rubbed me the wrong way).
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dirksteadfast posted:My Irrationally Irritating TV Moment is shows addressing criticism against the show by having a character in the show literally present those criticisms at the plot. I don’t know how many shows have done this, but I noticed it in both Sherlock and Stranger Things. By all means, creators should improve from season to season based off criticism they receive. Having an actual in-universe character comment about it comes across as a little petty, which is weird for me because I’m usually for meta stuff. (And admittedly, Stranger Things was much more graceful in its approach than Sherlock, but it still rubbed me the wrong way). It was funny to me when Felix pointed it out on Orphan Black about the constant kidnappings and escapers in about early season 3 right as I started noticing it. But yeah, if it's that bad maybe stop doing that.
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dirksteadfast posted:My Irrationally Irritating TV Moment is shows addressing criticism against the show by having a character in the show literally present those criticisms at the plot. I don’t know how many shows have done this, but I noticed it in both Sherlock and Stranger Things. By all means, creators should improve from season to season based off criticism they receive. Having an actual in-universe character comment about it comes across as a little petty, which is weird for me because I’m usually for meta stuff. (And admittedly, Stranger Things was much more graceful in its approach than Sherlock, but it still rubbed me the wrong way). This has been happening in literature and plays for centuries as well
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