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They tested a new truth serum on Carter Page and right now he's revealing the secrets of all Creation
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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Aw, I was hoping he was singing for this long.
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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(Carter Page stretches, pats belly with both hands) "Whew! Let me tell you: getting all of that off my chest felt great. Okay. I'd like to play my immunity idol now."
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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"Are you guys cops? You have to tell me if you are cops. It's in the rules"
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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Has Mueller talked to this guy yet or not? Because either way 
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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for those not in the know, you can't plead the 5th to a document request. because you're not testifying, those documents already exist. you just have to turn them over without saying a word. he is insulting the intelligence even of the republicans.
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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what a time to be alive
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Nov 2, 2017 21:59
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sean10mm posted:Has Mueller talked to this guy yet or not? Multiple times, without a lawyer present.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:00
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Carter Page, gods perfect simple boy.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:00
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Breaking: Carter Page has draped himself in a gold-fringed American flag
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Nov 2, 2017 22:00
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Boooo He's just been stonewalling them, then
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Nov 2, 2017 22:01
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My god. The dumbest of all possible Watergates.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:02
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ReidRansom posted:Boooo While that's probably true, it's also possible that he had been rolling like mad and just has refused to give up things directly linked to him. I want to dream
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Nov 2, 2017 22:02
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sean10mm posted:This is a really dumb straw man you're making. Hitler didn't mind control anybody or any poo poo like that, but he was VASTLY more talented and capable than Trump as a politician. It's not even close if you know anything about the fucker. He wasn't exaggerating: the whole "Hitler used hypnosis to mind control all of Germany to go along with him!" was a thing that people believed, and I've seen that sentiment in old books/encyclopedias. For some reason they never needed a mind control theory when less-white dictators convinced their people to commit genocide, funny that.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:02
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ReidRansom posted:Boooo 90% of is was "Mr. Page are you SURE you don't want a lawyer present?"
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Nov 2, 2017 22:03
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Does pleading the 5th automatically imply that he's 100% guilty of...something...and he knows it? Or is he literally just doing this 
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Nov 2, 2017 22:03
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/KennethMoton/status/926157042628419584 clearly the requests of innocent people.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:04
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lol, what a loving idiot. The 5th amendment doesn't work that way. You don't have to testify against yourself, but documents you own are not testimony. If we demand you hand them over, you can't refuse.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:04
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my bony fealty posted:Does pleading the 5th automatically imply that he's 100% guilty of...something...and he knows it? Or is he literally just doing this In a Court of Law pleading the 5th does not imply guilt. In the Court of Public Opinion it absolutely does.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:04
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ReidRansom posted:Boooo I think they would have told him to gently caress off several hours ago if he just plead the 5th the whole time about everything.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:04
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hanales posted:90% of is was "Mr. Page are you SURE you don't want a lawyer present?" "Uh, you're looking at a guy who beat the speederbike level in Battletoads when he was twelve, so I think I've got this."
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Nov 2, 2017 22:05
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hanales posted:90% of is was "Mr. Page are you SURE you don't want a lawyer present?" That's the part I don't get at all. Why the gently caress would you have not lawyered up by this point?
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Nov 2, 2017 22:05
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LaserShark posted:That's the part I don't get at all. Why the gently caress would you have not lawyered up by this point? The "Gods Perfect Simple Boy" memes were directed at the wrong Trump adviser.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:06
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republicans cant do math, again: https://twitter.com/econwonk/status/926191829963468800
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Nov 2, 2017 22:06
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LaserShark posted:That's the part I don't get at all. Why the gently caress would you have not lawyered up by this point? You have a constitutional right to represent yourself in trial and by god they're gonna make sure he can exercise it. 
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Nov 2, 2017 22:07
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LaserShark posted:That's the part I don't get at all. Why the gently caress would you have not lawyered up by this point? Because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:08
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Rigel posted:lol, what a loving idiot. The 5th amendment doesn't work that way. You don't have to testify against yourself, but documents you own are not testimony. If we demand you hand them over, you can't refuse. Sessions said "executive privilege" then people told him he couldn't but he still never actually answered.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:08
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Well, wrap it up, investigation's over.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:08
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evilweasel posted:republicans cant do math, again: I assume the problem is coming from the corporate rate cut. Its easy to limit deficit impacts from tax cuts for individuals, you just simply need to sunset it after 10 years. For corporations its not so easy because with a temporary tax cut they will rush to repatriate profits that they would have otherwise waited to book years or even decades from now. I don't really think its possible to pass a significant corporate tax cut through reconciliation at all if the people doing the math are honest.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:10
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evilweasel posted:republicans cant do math, again: So they're basically going "see? Deficit neutral for 10 years!" and tossing the country off a cliff after?
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Nov 2, 2017 22:10
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ReidRansom posted:Boooo Any conversation, without his lawyer present, and certainly one that has continued all day, is going to be valuable and have lots of opportunities to poke holes in other stories. Even if he thinks he's playing them, there's just no way he doesn't dig a bigger hole for himself and/or others.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:10
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CascadeBeta posted:Because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Yeah, but at some point the rest of the conspiracy had to have cornered him in a dark alley and threatened to break his kneecaps unless he got a lawyer.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:11
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farraday posted:If my math is right Carter Page has now spent more than 24 hours testifying and answerering questions without the advice of a lawyer because he’s just that innocent. May he testify a thousand more.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:12
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Mustached Demon posted:So they're basically going "see? Deficit neutral for 10 years!" and tossing the country off a cliff after? You got it backwards. You can run deficits within the 10 years, the Byrd rule says it can't increase our debt after the 10 year window.
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Nov 2, 2017 22:12
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Is the Page interview still going on? Wtf are they doing exactly? Trying to finish a game of monopoly?
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Nov 2, 2017 22:13
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Your Taint posted:Honestly asking, but isn't one of the often cited causes for the rise of Naziism is how hard Germany got hosed by the Treaty of Versailles? There's a lot more to it than that. The treaty of Versailles certainly increased the economic woes of the Weimar Republic, but it's absurd to point to it as the sole defining factor that gave rise to Nazi Germany and it's the type of rhetoric that Neo-Nazis adore, since it paints the picture of the German people being the victim of unreasonable foreign demands. A couple points just from the top of my head: -The Weimar Republic was badly set up in regards to many of its checks and balances. -Germany was still filled to the brim with old imperialists that bought into and perpetuated the "Dolchstoßlegende", further breeding resentment towards current democratic proceedings and over the loss of the Great War. -After Russia turned Communist, the red scare hit Europe hard and as such many Germans welcomed the fascists as a counter cultural movement with open arms. Because communism is just too scary. Even the socialists and social democrats that during imperial times in the 19th century had already managed to bring many important social reforms (like gouvernmental healthcare) were tainted by their left leaning association as well as their own history of riots that had been violently put down. -Germany already had a long history of hating on its Jewish populace since the goddamn middle ages. Even many well respected and well known contemporary German philosophers that absolutely adore their humanitarian thoughts couldn't help but just randomly poo poo on Jewish people in their contemporary writings. It was just part of the culture and already heavily marginalized, despite German Jews being well integrated into society. As such an ideology that turned the Jewish population into the source of everyones woes was just very appealing on paper to many Germans. -The Nazi party was on the cutting edge utilizing newly realized means of propaganda and contemporary media like the radio in order to reach the masses to an unprecedented degree. Again, this was a problem in how the Weimar Republic was set up as an awkward first try at full democracy and there was no proper and thorough enough regulation in place in how parties are allowed to reach the broader populace. All in all, the Weimar Republic was a complicated shitstorm. And authoritarian fascism was just comfortable enough for many people. I mean, they had an emperor before and it was a popular well respected ideology at the time. Not like people were big on human rights to begin with. It's worth reading a couple history books on the subject if you're interested. They are usually better at explaining it than I am. But I hope this suffices to at least partially dispel the myth of Germans just being the victims of an unreasonable treaty and lashing out in response. Zwiebel fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 22:14
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evilweasel posted:for those not in the know, you can't plead the 5th to a document request. because you're not testifying, those documents already exist. you just have to turn them over without saying a word. he is insulting the intelligence even of the republicans. So the Michael Scott of defendants. 
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BlueberryCanary posted:Is the Page interview still going on? Wtf are they doing exactly? Trying to finish a game of monopoly? Double elimination Twilight Struggle tournament
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BlueberryCanary posted:Is the Page interview still going on? Wtf are they doing exactly? Trying to finish a game of monopoly? "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"
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