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A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

I know I'm late to the party but I just watched Chef for the first time (streaming on Prime). What a great movie, I seriously did not want it to end. Favreau is becoming one of my favorite filmmakers.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Chappie is on Netflix now

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

precision posted:

Chappie is on Netflix now

I might finally watch it. That movie had a lot of things that got my interest, but I have a borderline pathological hatred of Die Antwoord

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Die Antwoord is the best part of the movie tho

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Hot take: All Bond movies are garbage but the more absurd Moore and Brosnan movies the least so. Every last one of them is a ridiculous male penisego-stroking fantasy but at least the absurd ones admit this. The worst offenders in the series are the ones that pretend to be dark and gritty and edgy and make some kind of claim to brutal realism or whatnot.

There's nothing dark or realistic about always available consequence-free sex with impossibly gorgeous women while wiping out infinite hordes of baddies and never facing any real risk or danger. "Oooh, James Bond gets tortured for a couple minutes in the latest movie! How grimdark!"

They're not dark, they're not gritty, they're not spy movies or thrillers or even action movies. They're firmly in the fantasy genre and it's not even good fantasy, it's the fever dream fantasy of a 13 year old boy.

OHMSS is the only Bond film that even kinda has consequences for James Bond and is one of the few worth watching. If the producers of the latest film have any balls and actually want to makes a film with seeing and worth talking about the solution is clear, especially with Daniel Craig's disdain for the franchise and it being his swan song: Bond dies in the end. They can even tie that in to the internet theory about James Bond being a code name for various agents. Make Bond a real character again instead of an invulnerable walking penis.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
While what you've said is true, I don't think anybody was arguing your imaginary opponent's points. Also, even with the "hot take" at the beginning, I feel like you've cut yourself a few times while crafting that truly edgy post.

But I still thank you for your contribution, as this is a discussion board.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

The problem with basically every other spy movie franchise is that eventually they just turn into Bond movies. The problem with the Bond franchise is their compulsive need to try to emulate whatever the new cool spy franchise is that everyone is talking about. It's no coincidence that Die Another Day came out in the same year as xXx. Or that Casino Royale and Quantum came out around the same time as the 2nd and 3rd Bourne movies.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Simplex posted:

The problem with basically every other spy movie franchise is that eventually they just turn into Bond movies. The problem with the Bond franchise is their compulsive need to try to emulate whatever the new cool spy franchise is that everyone is talking about. It's no coincidence that Die Another Day came out in the same year as xXx. Or that Casino Royale and Quantum came out around the same time as the 2nd and 3rd Bourne movies.

CR did the realism pretty well by interspersing it with some really solid character work. I'm going to guess QoS didn't, because I remember my friends and I saw it opening night and I couldn't tell you the plot to that movie if you were hitting my balls with a rope.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Ugly In The Morning posted:

CR did the realism pretty well by interspersing it with some really solid character work. I'm going to guess QoS didn't, because I remember my friends and I saw it opening night and I couldn't tell you the plot to that movie if you were hitting my balls with a rope.

Somebody saw Chinatown and thought a rich guy monopolizing water would be a good plot for a spy thriller

W424
Oct 21, 2010

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I might finally watch it. That movie had a lot of things that got my interest, but I have a borderline pathological hatred of Die Antwoord

Die Antwoord play(?) infuriating retards in the movie and they gently caress everything up trough their infuriating retardation.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

Ugly In The Morning posted:

CR did the realism pretty well by interspersing it with some really solid character work. I'm going to guess QoS didn't, because I remember my friends and I saw it opening night and I couldn't tell you the plot to that movie if you were hitting my balls with a rope.

I'm honestly never sure if QoS is supposed to be a satire. They go out of their way to paint the bad guys as a vast criminal conspiracy, but the actual plot is straight out of Exxon, BP, Suez, or really any other multinational firm like that's boardroom. And so they try really hard to portray Bond as a working class hero, which is really the exact opposite of what Bond is all about. It's definitely a more flagrant rip-off of the Bourne movies, whereas Casino merely borrows the style, QoS outright appropriates the substance.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
All I remember about QoS is the last act is a huge brawl in a fire and explosion factory. It's insane.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
All I remember is a huge eyeball.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

W424 posted:

Die Antwoord play(?) infuriating retards in the movie and they gently caress everything up trough their infuriating retardation.

So... it's a movie with Die Antwoord in it?

I think I'll pass.

Their music somehow actually makes me really angry, and I don't usually get angry.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



I hope I'm not churning up bad blood/more Tarantino chat, but I finally gave Hateful Eight a go.

Verdict: Tarantino is incredibly up his own rear end. It's like he was trying to do The Thing but was too obvious with who was trustworthy and who was suspect (and all of the 'suspect' guys turned out to be the bad guys).

But I will say, Walton Goggins is always a treat.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Why did my friend tell me to watch Frontier? It's awful.

The thing that confuses me about Hateful Eight is the flashback. It elongated the movie while adding absolutely nothing to it. I liked Goggins and Jackson doing their things though.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Lycus posted:

Why did my friend tell me to watch Frontier? It's awful.

The thing that confuses me about Hateful Eight is the flashback. It elongated the movie while adding absolutely nothing to it. I liked Goggins and Jackson doing their things though.

If it weren't Tarantino, I'd say they put the flashback in as a way to be able to sell the part to Channing Tatum, so that it wouldn't just be hey you show up for 5 minutes and then get your head blown off. But since it is Tarantino I'd doubt it actually went down that way. Probably just an excuse to show some graphic murders.

regulargonzalez posted:

Hot take: All Bond movies are garbage but the more absurd Moore and Brosnan movies the least so. Every last one of them is a ridiculous male penisego-stroking fantasy but at least the absurd ones admit this. The worst offenders in the series are the ones that pretend to be dark and gritty and edgy and make some kind of claim to brutal realism or whatnot.

There's nothing dark or realistic about always available consequence-free sex with impossibly gorgeous women while wiping out infinite hordes of baddies and never facing any real risk or danger. "Oooh, James Bond gets tortured for a couple minutes in the latest movie! How grimdark!"

They're not dark, they're not gritty, they're not spy movies or thrillers or even action movies. They're firmly in the fantasy genre and it's not even good fantasy, it's the fever dream fantasy of a 13 year old boy.

Nobody wants Bond to be dark and gritty, I'm not sure where you're getting that from. I mean, yea I guess dark and gritty compared to like Moonraker or Die Another Day, but that's not the same thing you're talking about at all.

Absurdity is a huge part of what makes Bond great, you're right about that, but in the best of them there is a balance. Is Grant a gritty and realistic character in From Russia With Love? Hell no, and that movie features a middle aged woman fighting Bond with a toe knife!

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Nov 3, 2017

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
Casino Royales lack of wacky gadgets, fairly realistic 'down to earth' plot, and brutal, more authentic violence are all why it's considered one of the best Bond movies and a perfect refresh of a stale franchise.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Ammanas posted:

Casino Royales lack of wacky gadgets, fairly realistic 'down to earth' plot, and brutal, more authentic violence are all why it's considered one of the best Bond movies and a perfect refresh of a stale franchise.

Casino Royale still has gadgets, it's just more realistic and gritty compared to what had come before. Remember, it was being compared to Die Another Day. Casino Royale is far from a realistic or "dark and gritty" film.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
cr also had mads mikkelsen crying bloody tears and that alone makes it better than every other bond movie combined

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Brosnan and Craig really had some major talent to work against when you think about it, even if the end results weren't always up to the level of that talent. Sean Bean, Jonathan Pryce, Robert Carlyle, Mads Mikkelsen, Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz. That's a hell of a list.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

LadyPictureShow posted:

I hope I'm not churning up bad blood/more Tarantino chat, but I finally gave Hateful Eight a go.

Verdict: Tarantino is incredibly up his own rear end. It's like he was trying to do The Thing but was too obvious with who was trustworthy and who was suspect (and all of the 'suspect' guys turned out to be the bad guys).

But I will say, Walton Goggins is always a treat.

I never really thought the murder mystery was the point of the movie though. My main takeaway from the movie was that the "good guys" aren't good and that people will use any flimsy excuse (including the law) to justify their enjoyment of violence. The Hangman says that if an executioner derives any pleasure from killing, it no longer resembles justice and becomes mob justice. By the end of the film, Jackson and Goggins are laughing to themselves as they hang Leigh.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I liked Chappie :shrug:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Chappie is a very good movie that is somewhat tarnished by a clearly muddled sense of identity. It also has some really weird/bad pacing and editing issues. On balance though, it's Blomkamp's second best movie.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Chappie has a lot of issues but it's totally worth watching once and is pretty enjoyable. That's pretty much how I feel about all of neill blomkamp's movie though.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Is there some weird rights reason why Shudder has every Phantasm movie but the second one? It just seems bizarre.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

david_a posted:

Is there some weird rights reason why Shudder has every Phantasm movie but the second one? It just seems bizarre.

I don't know anything specific but Phantasm II has been on HBOGO for a while, so maybe that has something to do with it. Why the rights would be split up like that I have no idea.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Chappie kicks rear end.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

veni veni veni posted:

Chappie has a lot of issues but it's totally worth watching once and is pretty enjoyable. That's pretty much how I feel about all of neill blomkamp's movie though.

I can't really imagine wanting to watch Elysium a second time, but I've enjoyed District 9 a half dozen or so times and I think I've watched Chappie three times.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I'm the one weirdo that liked Elysium :v: I thought it was his best movie. I've only watched all of them once though.

The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012
imo each Blomkamp is better than the last

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

SleepCousinDeath posted:

imo each Blomkamp is better than the last

Unfortunately, with Oats Studios, we can't really vouch for that anymore.

Chappie is still hella great, though.

Also, on Netflix I just checked out the absurdly kinda schmaltzy and stupid, but nonetheless really beautifully shot and rather well-acted Sean Bean star-vehicle Drone, and I dig it. Soft recommend.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




SleepCousinDeath posted:

imo each Blomkamp is better than the last

Elysium is one of the worst movies I've seen in the last 5 years.

Asnorban
Jun 13, 2003

Professor Gavelsmoke


Count me in on Chappie. It’s a fun thing to watch. I don’t like Die Antwoord music but I love their videos and so it is easy to please me with.

Super Fan
Jul 16, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

ketchup vs catsup posted:

Elysium is one of the worst movies I've seen in the last 5 years.

Watch more movies

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Asnorban posted:

Count me in on Chappie. It’s a fun thing to watch. I don’t like Die Antwoord music but I love their videos and so it is easy to please me with.

I don't like ALL their songs, but I really like the band as people based on their interviews and such. They seem like genuinely cool people.

veni veni veni posted:

I'm the one weirdo that liked Elysium

I liked it fine, I just have no desire to watch it again. Some flicks are just like that for me, even some that I love a lot (hell, I've only watched The Godfather once)

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
I like their music and they're good in Chappie, but Ninja comes off as a tosser.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

On an objective level I could tell Chappie was a pretty mediocre film but I loving loved it because Die Antwoord.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I'd rather be Ludovico'd with a supercut of whatever the hell Jodie Foster thought she was doing in Elysium than willingly subject myself to Die Antwoord.

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LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Chappie is bad and Die Whatever is bad, but Blomkamp's visuals saved it from falling into the terrible range. I'd watch it again. I love his way of making advanced technology look gritty, realistic, and like it'd seriously hurt anyone who tried to use it who wasn't careful.

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