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paragon1 posted:Real Meat and Real Bread are going to be way more expensive, there is a real qualitative difference between what foods we enjoy now and what people in Shadowrun put up with. Only at the low levels of society. Even a middle management wageslave makes enough money that there's no way to tell that what he's eating is soy instead of the real stuff. Very good money in artificial flavourings and food additives to change textures after all. Plenty of major Corps have their hand in that business.
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PMush Perfect posted:Aren't there a set of dialogue options for this part that are something like thinly-veiled disdain, tempered by the fact that you've absolutely been caught with your pant down? Been a long time since I played DMS. To a degree, sure. You can straight-up say that you were only hired to solve a murder and all this stuff really isn't your problem, but Telestrian is pretty quick to point out that you're in no position to refuse because the only real thing that makes you uniquely qualified, the fact that you've fought the insect spirits before, also holds true for the runners you brought with you for the Brotherhood run. If you won't do it then he'll get rid of you and hire one of them to lead the assault instead.
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 09:09 |
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Well yeah you can totally leave, but then the man that is in a home with the very, very high end magic user, the in-setting legendary lord of chaos, and the right hand man of the Dragon that runs the second biggest corp on the planet are going to have WORDS. You're in a room with one person who runs an AA Corp, the right hand man ofthe second biggest corp in the world (Yes I'm aware he's the head of it, in-universe most people don't know that distinction), and Harlequin is the most interesting of the bunch. In-universe it's quite, quite possible that going into the abyss full of alien bug zombies from another dimension has a HIGHER chance of survival. Because do you WANT to say 'no' to Lofwyr when he is directly in the room?
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 10:01 |
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There's a couple more short stories relevant to the characters in the game left, the first of which is The Road to Hell by Phaedra Weldon. It sheds some light on the enigmatic Baron Samedi and what exactly went down with him before the events of the game.Shadowrun Anthology posted:
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 21:45 |
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 21:46 |
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Shadowrun Anthology posted:
Kanfy fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Nov 6, 2017 |
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Stroth posted:Only at the low levels of society. Even a middle management wageslave makes enough money that there's no way to tell that what he's eating is soy instead of the real stuff. Very good money in artificial flavourings and food additives to change textures after all. Plenty of major Corps have their hand in that business. I said people, chummer, not drones.
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Kanfy posted:There's a couple more short stories relevant to the characters in the game left, the first of which is The Road to Hell by Phaedra Weldon. It sheds some light on the enigmatic Baron Samedi and what exactly went down with him before the events of the game. Pretty sweet. Thanks Kanfy.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 04:02 |
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Nice! Fun read, thanks for sharing.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 05:15 |
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Kanfy posted:Someone said the road to hell is paved with the bodies of your enemies. No one ever said that outside of a highschool deviantart page man.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 07:32 |
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It is a shame that Samedi is so terribly incompetent in this game (not that I noticed back when I played this), his story is a good one. Probably the one I like second best so far. It is hard to compete with the plot twist at the end of Dresden's story. Thanks for sharing.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 08:38 |
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Glad people are liking the stories, I figured they'd make for good bonus content and maybe give people who have already played through the game something new to see as well. They're easily skipped if you don't care anyway. There are 16 stories in total in the Anthology of which I'll post one more (a good one for fans of the Harlequin-Brackhaus duo such as myself), plus a bunch of concept art and other miscellaneous pictures such as this one of a dragon playing with a cat.
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GimmickMan posted:It is a shame that Samedi is so terribly incompetent in this game (not that I noticed back when I played this), his story is a good one. Probably the one I like second best so far. It is hard to compete with the plot twist at the end of Dresden's story. Samedi's a bright kid. Who is legitimately hot poo poo in the matrix. Daaaamn shame about the rest
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:05 |
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I believe someone was saying that it's possible the real Loa Baron Samedhi is possibly influencing those who take his likeness on the Matrix. If that's the case, it's possible the fack-up was intentional on the Loa's part to get the MC in league with the group to fix the real problem. "In Mysterious Ways"
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Andyzero posted:I believe someone was saying that it's possible the real Loa Baron Samedhi is possibly influencing those who take his likeness on the Matrix. It would be unlikely. Even big league spirits don't reach out and mess with people unless they're a Mentor, and great spirits don't like to Mentor people who mess up their essence a bunch with cyberware.
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wiegieman posted:It would be unlikely. Even big league spirits don't reach out and mess with people unless they're a Mentor, and great spirits don't like to Mentor people who mess up their essence a bunch with cyberware. The short story says Harkeem doesn't have any cyber, he's doing his decking old school. Take it for what it's worth. Personally I don't really think we need to go that far, but it's a possibility not contradicted by the game. Psion fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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That last story made me think of something: wouldn't being paralyzed from the waist down be curable without too much trouble in the Sixth World? Between magic and cyberware, I'd imagine a visit to your friendly local cyberdoc could solve that problem. It wouldn't be cheap, but I can't imagine it'd be that expensive either.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:That last story made me think of something: wouldn't being paralyzed from the waist down be curable without too much trouble in the Sixth World? Between magic and cyberware, I'd imagine a visit to your friendly local cyberdoc could solve that problem. It wouldn't be cheap, but I can't imagine it'd be that expensive either. that much full-body replacement is not cheap, money or essence-wise, but prosthetic pelvis+below is not hard to get your hands on.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 02:10 |
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It could be as simple as replacing whatever chunk of your spine is damaged beyond repair, if the legs are still alive.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. If one half of your body has been separated from the other half, then yeah, that would be problematic to replace essence-wise. But fixing the fibrous bits in someone's spine seems like it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I realize it's for story purposes here, but it just doesn't seem to fit with the setting.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 04:42 |
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Shadowrun has robust and dependable artificial neural fibers, so injury repair is relatively simple if you can afford it (and not even too hard on your essence if the repairs are done with that objective in mind.)
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Psion posted:The short story says Harkeem doesn't have any cyber, he's doing his decking old school. Take it for what it's worth. Personally I don't really think we need to go that far, but it's a possibility not contradicted by the game. Okay, so I didn't get that. How does that work? Does the interweb still work the way it does in Hollywood, and you've got someone banging away at three keyboards in front of thirty monitors while getting a blowjob, and is always able to find a backdoor into the CIA's computers? Did he know they were programmed by Jeff, who was born in 19-Jeffity-Jeff?
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painedforever posted:Okay, so I didn't get that. How does that work? Does the interweb still work the way it does in Hollywood, and you've got someone banging away at three keyboards in front of thirty monitors while getting a blowjob, and is always able to find a backdoor into the CIA's computers? Did he know they were programmed by Jeff, who was born in 19-Jeffity-Jeff? You wear a mesh net of electrodes on your head that's a little worse than having a datajack in most ways. It's the only way for someone who doesn't want or can't get any cyber to jack in, like if they're a magician or a vampire or something.
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painedforever posted:Okay, so I didn't get that. How does that work? Does the interweb still work the way it does in Hollywood, and you've got someone banging away at three keyboards in front of thirty monitors while getting a blowjob, and is always able to find a backdoor into the CIA's computers? Did he know they were programmed by Jeff, who was born in 19-Jeffity-Jeff? The VR interface overrides most of your motor functions and your body's senses, so your body is just going to be sitting there staring into space while your mind is surfing the web. This may be a later edition thing, but I think if you don't have a datajack you're limited to "cold sim" VR which isn't nearly as fast or responsive as someone running "hot sim" but also protects your brain from the kind of attacks that will cook it or rewrite it.
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wiegieman posted:You wear a mesh net of electrodes on your head that's a little worse than having a datajack in most ways. How vulnerable are they to ICE?
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. If one half of your body has been separated from the other half, then yeah, that would be problematic to replace essence-wise. But fixing the fibrous bits in someone's spine seems like it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I realize it's for story purposes here, but it just doesn't seem to fit with the setting. There's plenty of in-setting reasons that someone might not be able or willing to get cybernetics to repair a physical disability. Financial, medical, spiritual, and so on.
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DGM_2 posted:How vulnerable are they to ICE? Just as vulnerable as someone using a data jack. ICE usually works by attacking the deck that is sending signals into your brain rather than damaging the link between you and your deck.
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paragon1 posted:There's plenty of in-setting reasons that someone might not be able or willing to get cybernetics to repair a physical disability. Financial, medical, spiritual, and so on. Your girlfriend's hilariously overprotective dad had his goons break your legs and then blackballed you so hard that even the street docs won't touch you...
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paragon1 posted:Just as vulnerable as someone using a data jack. ICE usually works by attacking the deck that is sending signals into your brain rather than damaging the link between you and your deck. I should have been more specific, but I was thinking mainly of black ICE. Surely it can't fry your brain through the mesh?
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DGM_2 posted:I should have been more specific, but I was thinking mainly of black ICE. Surely it can't fry your brain through the mesh? Any gear that can put you in hot sim can kill you, otherwise biofeedback from stuff like black IC will only do stun damage, and only when you're in VR. A trode net provides DNI (direct neural interface) and can put you in hot sim just like a datajack. The only difference is that datajacks have built in noise reduction from their solid connection. After all, it's the electrical signals in your brain that matter, not the brain matter itself.
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So a trode net leaves you just as vulnerable to getting lobotomized while also making you less effective at decking? I suppose that makes sense from a balance perspective.
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In a sense. It's more like Hotsim makes you react faster, but also makes things like Black ICE hit even harder.
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DGM_2 posted:So a trode net leaves you just as vulnerable to getting lobotomized while also making you less effective at decking? I suppose that makes sense from a balance perspective. Only if you're running hot sim. Otherwise the worst it can do is knock you out. Hot sim, by the way, is the same kind of unfiltered max-output sensory signal that BTL chips use. Deckers tend to be the dumbest kind of smart person so they use it to get a slight edge when jacked in with the cat-5 port they had implanted in their skull for 5ms lower latency. Plenty of people use commercial grade trode nets that are easy to hide in your hair and just switch them to AR mode or cold sim when they go clubbing so they can see the floor show or whatever. Well, in cold sim they'd better be sitting down first, because you still go limp. wiegieman fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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DGM_2 posted:So a trode net leaves you just as vulnerable to getting lobotomized while also making you less effective at decking? I suppose that makes sense from a balance perspective. The main thing about trode nets is that they let you deck without spending essence on a datajack. This is useful if you want to play a Decker Adept (a surprisingly viable build, actually).
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wiegieman posted:Only if you're running hot sim. Otherwise the worst it can do is knock you out. Hot sim, by the way, is the same kind of unfiltered max-output sensory signal that BTL chips use. Deckers tend to be the dumbest kind of smart person so they use it to get a slight edge when jacked in with the cat-5 port they had implanted in their skull for 5ms lower latency. Right. So that's all fluff explanations. Is there a mapping in it for crunch as well? A jack in the video-game means giving up 0.5 essence (0.3 if you're using the eyeball jack). I assume you can use the 'trode thingy without giving up on essence?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 11:28 |
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Something Awful has taught me that spending any amount of time on the internet is going to burn off some portion of your humanity regardless of how you connect
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Lack of Gravitas posted:Something Awful has taught me that spending any amount of time on the internet is going to burn off some portion of your humanity regardless of how you connect Correct. The breakdown is 0.1 essence loss for the jack itself, and 0.4 for the harm that shitposting does to your soul.
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painedforever posted:Right. So that's all fluff explanations. Is there a mapping in it for crunch as well? A jack in the video-game means giving up 0.5 essence (0.3 if you're using the eyeball jack). I assume you can use the 'trode thingy without giving up on essence? The electrode net never replaces any part of the body and therefore has an essence cost of zero, just like tools and glasses which can also, arguably, be referred to as cybernetics. (Although I hear the actual term is supposed to be mechtronics.)
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MJ12 posted:The main thing about trode nets is that they let you deck without spending essence on a datajack. This is useful if you want to play a Decker Adept (a surprisingly viable build, actually). Yeah, that's what I meant by it sounding balanced - you're sacrificing some potency to save essence.
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similarly, one of the better tools in the game, and what makes a good wage-mage terrifying, is magesight goggles. see, spells require you to have line-of-sight to the thing you're casting at to fire. and then some Awakened kid who remembered a tiny bit of Wikipedia-That-Was asked the question "wait, does fiber-optic cable count as line of sight?" answer: yes, which means if your pre-run casing shows that the security cameras are hooked up to a fiber-optic network with no matrix access, be prepared for any camera that spots you to start launching fireballs.
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