JeffersonClay posted:

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JeffersonClay posted:

Trabisnikof posted:

lol it totally is. lotta people outing themselves itt

JeffersonClay posted:

Claims made here:
1). Clinton raised about 500 million through her joint fundraising committee, of which 100 million went to the DNC and 250 million went to state democratic parties
2). She didn't start using that money until she'd won the nomination, which was bad because
3). Bernie, by not conceding in March, made the state parties wait 3 months for the 250 million Clinton had raised, when they desperately needed it.

Falstaff posted:

The last verse is the same as in the original, though...?

selec posted:

Parsing it closely, "The internal workings of the apparatus of the DNC" <> "The primary system"

The claim she made, as I and many others including apparently Elizabeth Warren interpreted it, was that the Clinton team had functional control over internal DNC operations prior to any primary votes being cast.

Which is not the same as rigging the actual primary voting system.

This would be a lot easier to figure out if we could get some signed and dated documents.

joepinetree posted:

Well, the part of the memo where the DNC is required to encourage state parties to join the Hillary Victory Fund, essentially giving her campaign control over state level funding apparatus in August of 2015 is a pretty big thumb on the scale.

logger posted:

Surely you are not suggesting that by taking control of state-level funding she could encourage various superdelegates to endorse her or not get funding for their preferred state-level candidates, which would influence the opinion that Hillary would win the primary and drive down enthusiasm for her primary opponents.

joepinetree posted:

Or to convince other candidates cough*Biden*cough not to run explicitly citing how there would be no time to build a similar campaign

Lightning Knight posted:

Biden didn’t run because of family tragedy by almost all accounts, not because of whatever Hillary was doing.

IMO the most likely contender to have run if things were different is Booker.

quote:

mplicit in Biden's remarks was a realization that Clinton's position and organizational muscle in early voting states are just too strong for him to mount a credible challenge at such a late stage -- just three-and-a-half months before first votes are cast.

quote:

In the same period, Obama, too, had been trying to suss out Biden’s intentions, at their weekly one-on-one lunches at the White House. The president, in Biden’s telling, dropped heavy hints that, for the good of party unity, the vice president should stand down; Clinton’s political organization was formidable, and it was her turn. Obama further cited the excitement with which he personally was anticipating life after holding high office, and asked Biden, “Joe, have you focused on that? How do you want to spend the rest of your life?”
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All that said, a few weeks after his Late Show appearance, in October, standing in the White House Rose Garden flanked by his wife and President Obama, Biden announced that he would not be running. “I realized that I just wasn’t ready,” he told me. For one thing, he was not so naïve as to believe that he would be treated with kid gloves just because he had recently buried his son. “It was clear that there was a lot of negative research being done on me, coming from my own party,” he said, citing reports that the pro-Clinton political operative David Brock was gathering oppo materials on him.

Helsing posted:

Obama allowing the DNC to go broke on his watch and then actively helping to clear the way for Hilary seems like a retroactive vindication of all the stuff Ron Susskind was writing about in 2011 in the book "Confidence Men" regarding Obama's leadership skills and political instincts.

Trabisnikof posted:

lol it totally is. lotta people outing themselves itt

JeffersonClay posted:

Claims made here:
1). Clinton raised about 500 million through her joint fundraising committee, of which 100 million went to the DNC and 250 million went to state democratic parties
2). She didn't start using that money until she'd won the nomination, which was bad because
3). Bernie, by not conceding in March, made the state parties wait 3 months for the 250 million Clinton had raised, when they desperately needed it.

R. Guyovich posted:

no it isn't, he takes out references to socialism

"Sure, once I was young and impulsive; I wore every conceivable pin,

Even went to Socialist meetings, learned all the old Union hymns.
Ah, but I've grown older and wiser, and that's why I'm turning you in."

new versions of the song — even jello biafra's — almost uniformly suck in comparison, no one could craft a verse like phil

Condiv posted:

didn't states get like thousands at best from the money hillary raised in their names?

Tiberius Christ posted:

Half of one percent of $84 million so about $420,000 to downticket races

NathanScottPhillips posted:

loving love this forum!

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

gently caress you but also gently caress me. We're all hosed. This is all hosed. gently caress.

Condiv posted:

you're gonna have to commit seppuku over this one

it's the only way to redress this crime against humanity

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Getting myself demodded wasn't enough?

NathanScottPhillips posted:

loving love this forum!

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NathanScottPhillips posted:

Nazis are people with bad opinions usually caused by a horrible family structure, lack of education and opportunities, and poverty. You are so blinded by your own lack of empathy that you view them as "subhuman trash" only worthy of violence. In fact you specifically say that simply talking to them cannot be justified. Sometimes both sides are fascists.

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Condiv posted:

no. you can't wash this blood off your hands

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Nazis are people with bad opinions usually caused by a horrible family structure, lack of education and opportunities, and poverty. You are so blinded by your own lack of empathy that you view them as "subhuman trash" only worthy of violence. In fact you specifically say that simply talking to them cannot be justified. Sometimes both sides are fascists.

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NathanScottPhillips posted:

loving love this forum!

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Shbobdb posted:

Is Ron Paul another victim of SA?

If one of you goons did this, I please let me know.

Thanks,

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Eh, it's virtual blood though.

Office Pig posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the book you made a "Let's Read" thread for way back when, wasn't it?

VitalSigns posted:

USPol liberals:

If leftists want to prove they can win general elections, they should start by proving they can win primaries.

Also USPol liberals:

We have to rig primaries against leftists because they haven't yet proven to us they can win.