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Julio Cruz posted:I don't know, does avuncular and toddler-shooting-toddler discussion have its own separate thread where it's easy for those of us who don't care about it to avoid it? I'm goona go for a walk on this but really. Is avoiding ideas because they are uncomfortable more important than understanding other people 's thoughts about said ideas that make you uncomfortable? Priorities.  Demanding a subject be removed from a conversation is... a philosophy class. 
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Nov 4, 2017 21:05
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/04/trump-first-year-office-244542 Even after a year of horror and years of the same behavior leading up to the election, journalists continue to nurture the idea that Donald Trump could have been and by extension might still be a normal president.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:10
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After The War posted:
Don't be a creep
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Nov 4, 2017 21:13
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dont even fink about it posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/04/trump-first-year-office-244542 The media is begging to accept him and he can't see it.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:14
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dont even fink about it posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/04/trump-first-year-office-244542 Pieces like this are go-to examples in the quest to prove that American media has murdered the spirit of journalism at large.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:15
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Office Pig posted:Pieces like this are go-to examples in the quest to prove that American media has murdered the spirit of journalism at large. It's Politico, not journalism.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:16
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It's the Tiger Beat of the Potomac
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Nov 4, 2017 21:17
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Dmitri-9 posted:There were two constituencies that showed up to protest in Charlottesville: the white nationalists and 3% militia. The wn wanted to stir up poo poo, beat up black people, and kill counter protesters, the 3% wanted to demonstrate open carry and defend free speech absolutism. When someone was murdered the 3%ers promptly exfiltrated back to their gun ranges an promptly bothered no one. The wn keep showing up and committing violent acts. Prester Jane is quoting gun nuts and saying they are like other culties but that shouldn't impress anyone because non of them were particularly violent. And then she says that they were small groups so they didn't have a big impact but the 3%ers are much more numerous and armed to the teeth and the nazis are the same 50-200 assholes that show up at every rally. Who has proven to be more dangerous and grab more mindspace? I think I'm with you now, and I don't disagree with this post, but I wanna reiterate that the guy who actually killed someone at Charlottesville is a 20 year old meme magic 4chan reject. This isn't organized insurectionist violence, no, but it is part and parcel of a pretty common trend in right wing violence in the US. No, these dudes aren't the master minds or stormtroopers of the coming fascist revolution, but they are dangerous, and so I'm not going to dismiss the trend I guess. Right wing media is increasingly radicalized and unipolar. Like, Alex Jones is a dude shaping the national discourse, and that's concerning! There doesn't need to be an insurrection for them to be a material threat. Let's be clear, I'm far more concerned with state sanctioned violence than these fucks, but I think there's something worth discussing here 
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Nov 4, 2017 21:20
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Trump knew https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-jeff-sessions-russia.html
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Nov 4, 2017 21:23
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Crow Jane posted:Is there really such a thing as a good toddler, though? They're adorable, don't get me wrong, but they're also insane little shitheads My nephew is incredibly cute and sweet, but then again, he has thrown a tantrum because wearing a CD rack is not a thing that is possible.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:23
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Your Taint posted:Trump knew We all knew, but this is evidence.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:27
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my god, is this the best the antifa supersoldier serum can do?? all that soros money, wasted.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:34
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The Phlegmatist posted:my god, is this the best the antifa supersoldier serum can do?? all that soros money, wasted. I mean, according to the RWM he apparently has his own personal permanent portal to the Elemental Plane of Currency, so it's not like it'll bother him any.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:37
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Space Gopher posted:This wouldn't get past the IRS. This inspired me to look at the relevant tax code, which seems to have a clause that scholarships and grants are not tax free if they are given for teaching, research, or other services, except as specified in part (d), which is the part that the new tax code would strike down. Originally, I was going to argue that graduate tuition waivers might continue under the same tack as athletic scholarships. Apparently, athletic scholarships have gotten around the "other services" clause with an IRS ruling that the athletic activity is "primarily educational" so long as the university expects, but not requires, athletic participation. However the IRS has declined to enforce the last rule, and many universities include clauses requiring athletic participation. It seems like it would be pretty easy to argue that graduate research and teaching work is largely educational, as the employment is awarded only to students at the particular school, the work is entry-level work related to the profession, and skill development is an important part of an assistantship. However, schools definitely wouldn't "expect but not require" assistantship-related work, so that's probably out, even if that condition is never enforced for athletic scholarships. This all highlights how tuition waivers and assistantships are very different from fringe educational benefits for standard employment, however. Candidate selection for assistantships is subordinate to selection for entry into the graduate program and the positions themselves are designed primarily around developing profession-related skills.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:37
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Your Taint posted:Trump knew Burn the elf but not Trump. That skin will probably burn into hydrogen fluoride along with carbon dioxide.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:38
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/926619770618859521
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Nov 4, 2017 21:39
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Can part of his job be sucking on an exhaust pipe?
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Nov 4, 2017 21:41
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The Phlegmatist posted:my god, is this the best the antifa supersoldier serum can do?? all that soros money, wasted. This was truly the Bowling Green massacre.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:42
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The Phlegmatist posted:my god, is this the best the antifa supersoldier serum can do?? all that soros money, wasted. That is unirocally the spin the right is going with here. They are currently crowing about all the Soros money that has been wasted (billions was invested into this), because apparently "the left" spent even more money on this and were expecting a bigger turnout than the womens march. Trump supporters have cowed Antifa by their show of unified patriotism. Right now they are all busy jacking off to fantasies of how to press the advantage from here. This is basically just like when Otherkin fight and win a major battle on the astral plane. Except that Otherkin do not have state actors and business interests confirming and reinforcing their delusions. As a result they are going to really believe they accomplished something today and they are going to experiment with living that fantasy out in the open as much as possible by becoming more belligerent and provocative. They think they just called Antifa's bluff. In the short term they will be too busy jacking themselves off to accomplish much, in the middle term this will lead to more provocation and in the longer term this is all trending towards higher levels of radicalization. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 21:43
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Prester Jane posted:This is basically just like when Otherkin fight and win a major battle on the astral plane. "..." - Cloud, Final Fantasy 7
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Nov 4, 2017 21:46
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Prester Jane posted:This is basically just like when Otherkin fight and win a major battle on the astral plane. Except that Otherkin do not have state actors and business interests confirming and reinforcing their delusions. As a result they are going to really believe they accomplished something today and they are going to experiment with living that fantasy out in the open as much as possible by becoming more belligerent and provocative. Yes, conservatives are just like otherkin winning battles on the astral plane.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:46
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botany posted:"..." Let me elaborate. Otherkin will all reinforce their collective delusions by fighting imaginary matrix-style battles on the "astral plane" against each other and/or rival groups of Otherkin. Differing groups would agree on a major battle to be fought, pretend to fight said battle by "astral projecting" at the same time, and then each privately declare themselves the winner whilst squabbling about it all online. This event is the exact same thing. The right just invented an emotionally-real-but-otherwise-imaginary big important battle to go fight, pretended to fight it, and then are now declaring themselves the winners. Same basic thing as what I described above with Otherkin. Presently the right are circle jerking themselves over their huge victory (which is emotionally real and welds them all the closer to their personal delusions/inner narrative) and once the fun of that settles down they will kick their fantasies up a notch or two.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:53
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Prester I think people would be more receptive if you could use... like... any other analogy.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:54
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Prester Jane posted:Let me elaborate. please don't
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Nov 4, 2017 21:54
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Prester Jane posted:Let me elaborate. Otherkin will all reinforce their collective delusions by fighting imaginary matrix-style battles on the "astral plane" against each other and/or rival groups of Otherkin. Differing groups would agree on a major battle to be fought, pretend to fight said battle by "astral projecting" at the same time, and then each privately declare themselves the winner whilst squabbling about it all online. This event is the exact same thing. Oh, now it all makes sense! I was pretty confused for a moment.
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Nov 4, 2017 21:56
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Prester Jane posted:In the short term they will be too busy jacking themselves off to accomplish much, hell, 
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Nov 4, 2017 21:57
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Prester Jane posted:That is unirocally the spin the right is going with here. They are currently crowing about all the Soros money that has been wasted (billions was invested into this), because apparently "the left" spent even more money on this and were expecting a bigger turnout than the womens march. Trump supporters have cowed Antifa by their show of unified patriotism. Right now they are all busy jacking off to fantasies of how to press the advantage from here. Carter Page testimony comes out next week. I was a dumb kid too once. My main critique of your posts has always been and remains that you know the crazies well, but you don't know of or account for the institutions or members of them that have agency as well. It doesn't mean what you're saying is without value but you lack perspective. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 21:58
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I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:00
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vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. People who believe they are mythical creatures in another universe/previous life and thus are that thing. Basically, furries but with faries and dragons and poo poo.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:03
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vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. They're like furries but instead of wearing a colorful wolf suit, they believe they are actually a 37th dimension grand werewolf wizard who can totally melt your brain with their psychic energy.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:03
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I'm really starting to rethink my stance on mandatory re-education camps.vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. Clusters of mentally ill people.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:03
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Nov 4, 2017 22:04
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vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. Google "Severe mental illness" and it should give you a rundown.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:04
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vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. They're like neonazis, but they have no say in anything so they invent mystic wars to fight in instead of politics.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:05
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vaginadeathgrip posted:I don’t actually know what otherkin is and I refuse to put it into Google. This is the safest choice. Protect yourself.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:05
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KickerOfMice posted:I'm goona go for a walk on this but really. Is avoiding ideas because they are uncomfortable more important than understanding other people 's thoughts about said ideas that make you uncomfortable? I don't see what's so difficult to understand about having discussions in the right places - it's kind of why we have different threads in the first place, so people can discuss things they're interested in and not discuss things they're not interested in. Multiple people in this thread clearly have no interest in PJ's posting so it would make sense for her posts to go in the thread that was created for them. If anyone else was posting here about "otherkin" they'd be laughed out of the thread, but somehow PJ gets a pass.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:06
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Isn't there a bit in Atlas Shrugged where the main character breaks into a factory and shoots dead a security guard, then waxes for 15 pages how it was good and great that she did it? A = A
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Nov 4, 2017 22:06
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Julio Cruz posted:I don't see what's so difficult to understand about having discussions in the right places - it's kind of why we have different threads in the first place, so people can discuss things they're interested in and not discuss things they're not interested in. Multiple people in this thread clearly have no interest in PJ's posting so it would make sense for her posts to go in the thread that was created for them. Actually a lot of people in the thread do have interest in it and people like you just have to throw a pathetic fit every single time she posts. Just put her on ignore and move on.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:07
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Your Taint posted:This was truly the Bowling Green massacre. Turns out Kelly Ann Conway isn't a liar, she's just from the future. That's why she looks so haggard; time travel really wears you out.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:08
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