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Fallen Hamprince posted:so we've moved from 'bush gave the go ahead' to 'saddam interpreted bush as giving the go ahead', cool ah, we're at the point where we have to add fifteen qualifiers to each clause of the post, cool you can believe what you like, but i think telling a guy who just outlined all the territory he wants as part of his country, "yeah, we don't care" ain't great diplomacy
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Joementum posted:ah, we're at the point where we have to add fifteen qualifiers to each clause of the post, cool Did you even read the full quote, or are you banking on people thinking more highly of you than of Hamprince to make them be on your side of this? Because that definitely used to be the case, but you are working very hard to remove that bias from me, at least.
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wasn't the first gulf war a result of kuwait doing an i drink your milkshake and saddam going uh wait what no and the united states demanding drainage, my boy
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the first golf war was the back to the future 3 of diplomacy
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/926940526993133568 phil murphy: smarter than 90% of democratic hopefuls
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Joementum posted:ah, we're at the point where we have to add fifteen qualifiers to each clause of the post, cool again, the quote you posted obviously refers to america's established policy regarding the border dispute. gillespie explicitly states that the US is, in her own words, "concerned" about iraqi troop buildup on the border, which would make no sense if she was giving saddam a green-light.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:again, the quote you posted obviously refers to america's established policy regarding the border dispute. gillespie explicitly states that the US is, in her own words, "concerned" about iraqi troop buildup on the border, which would make no sense if she was giving saddam a green-light. OK, I'll concede that she unintentionally rather than intentionally hosed up.
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Can we just agree on the following point? Shut the gently caress up Hamprince
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Fallen Hamprince posted:so we've moved from 'bush gave the go ahead' to 'saddam interpreted bush as giving the go ahead', cool can squizzle just chain probate you already
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Did you even read the full quote, or are you banking on people thinking more highly of you than of Hamprince to make them be on your side of this? Because that definitely used to be the case, but you are working very hard to remove that bias from me, at least. oh no!!!!
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Fallen Hamprince posted:again, the quote you posted obviously refers to america's established policy regarding the border dispute. gillespie explicitly states that the US is, in her own words, "concerned" about iraqi troop buildup on the border, which would make no sense if she was giving saddam a green-light. the border dispute was "actually kuwait is and always has been part of iraq in its entirety"
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R. Guyovich posted:oh no!!!! Sometimes tankies make for pretty decent mods, too.
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Venom Snake posted:There is a certain segment of the left that's to their credit have been fighting for justice a lot longer than people who only recently got on board like me have; but they dislike how the new wave has brought it's culture with it to shape leftism's internal culture. In an age where cultural identity is derived from the media you enjoy this means leftism's internal culture will be shaped by the media leftist's enjoy. this is very dumb vensnake. there's a natural limit to the number of people you can reach with Memery and no limit to the people you can reach with real world work which is why we still have the advantage over the nerdo nazis: they, by and large, have yet to realize this
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why does howard dean get applause hes just as guilty. he was a super delagate who voted for hillary regarless of primary vote and it doesn't seem like the dems won much with him at the helm
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tread carefully joemantum, my respect for you is on the line.
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your average democrat probably knows nothing of dean outside of his 2004 run and maybe the 50 state strategy
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Howard Dean didn't vote for Hillary at the convention.
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Joementum posted:Howard Dean didn't vote for Hillary at the convention. vermont's superdelegates are bound i take it?
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Uncle Wemus posted:why does howard dean get applause hes just as guilty. he was a super delagate who voted for hillary regarless of primary vote and it doesn't seem like the dems won much with him at the helm Howard Dean's greatest moments were when he was running as a progressive and nobody knew the craven beast that lay beneath the surface the scream was actually his soul leaving his body
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Raskolnikov38 posted:vermont's superdelegates are bound i take it? None of the Vermont delegation voted. When it was their turn, Bernie got up and made a motion to suspend the rules and nominate Hillary by acclamation.
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Uncle Wemus posted:why does howard dean get applause hes just as guilty. he was a super delagate who voted for hillary regarless of primary vote and it doesn't seem like the dems won much with him at the helm in the real world this remains the case, but a worn out old tire seems pretty good when there's a mountain of newer ones on fire and asphyxiating everyone in the vicinity. the current dnc makes a pretty sweet punching bag and makes prior control seem pretty good in hindsight, whether it's warranted or not, a lot like george w. bush! god loving drat it.
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Calibanibal posted:tread carefully joemantum, my respect for you is on the line. lol
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shame on whoever didn't make the thread title The Bros from Brazile Are Back In Town welcome to the succ, 
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loving Christ. Even the Washington Post says this is stupid lmao https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.ef3da1bf953d
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Calibanibal posted:tread carefully joemantum, my respect for you is on the line. Joe six-pack
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Fallen Hamprince posted:so we've moved from 'bush gave the go ahead' to 'saddam interpreted bush as giving the go ahead', cool Why are you attacking a man who stood for western values like Sadamm against regressives like Kuwait?
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My other controversial opinions like "the citizens united decision was good" and "all primaries should be replaced with caucuses" are more fun to argue about anyway.
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Joementum posted:"the citizens united decision was good" i don't recall this opinion but it seems pretty bad
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:the first golf war was the back to the future 3 of diplomacy Saddam "mad dog" Hussein
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't recall this opinion but it seems pretty bad I don't think the government should get to decide which groups can engage in political activity. A much better solution to campaign finance problems is public funding floors for campaigns.
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Joementum posted:My other controversial opinions like "the citizens united decision was good" and "all primaries should be replaced with caucuses" are more fun to argue about anyway. These are great ideas if you lust 4 chaos
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Joementum posted:I don't think the government should get to decide which groups can engage in political activity. so it's definitely pretty bad
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Joementum posted:I don't think the government should get to decide which groups can engage in political activity. How the hell are these ideas even compatible?
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the government should not allow nazis or liberals to organize
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Vox Nihili posted:How the hell are these ideas even compatible?
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Public funding is the civilized way to do it but you need to shut down the private campaigning/fundraising industry to make it happen.
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deadgoon posted:the government should not allow nazis or liberals to organize
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Vox Nihili posted:How the hell are these ideas even compatible? Seems pretty straight forward. A public financing floor would give enough money to campaigns to get their message out without prohibiting other groups from spending more if they wanted. There's a diminishing return on political spending, as we saw in the last election.
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