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I think ADOM would be a million times better if they cut the world map and merged every actually unique dungeon into the main one as a branch and also just gave everyone the equivalent of healing 100 and cut the skill from the game.
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I actually like ADOM's world map as a concept. It lends a lot to its theme. What I don't like is how goddamn perilous it is. I have lost many a character to inescapable ambushes.
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Nov 3, 2017 21:24
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the world map and routing around its travel time with the corruption clock is like the coolest unique thing about adom.
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Nov 3, 2017 21:27
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Tollymain posted:dredmor's chargen still needs somebody to use it in a better game I originally started ttymor because I thought that most of Dredmor's issues were UI-related, so fixing those while leaving the gameplay intact should result in a significantly better game, while also acting as a framework for people to implement other games using a similar concept. I need to return to that project someday. Too Shy Guy posted:The dual class system in Titan Quest and Grim Dawn is close enough for me, but yeah I'd like to see more of that sort of open-ended combining. ToME4 is the closest I've seen -- the unlockable Adventurer class lets you pick a bunch of skill lines from any normal class. Unlike Dredmor, though, each one is only four skills long, and no effort has been made to balance skills from different classes against each other, so it's fun but also kinda broken.
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Nov 3, 2017 21:56
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Cough cough DUNGEONMANS
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Nov 3, 2017 22:04
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Every time I read the word Dungeonmans, it's in the same voice as the Trojan Man.
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Nov 3, 2017 22:13
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It's madjack's birthday today, so a good day to buy Dungeonmans if you haven't.
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Nov 3, 2017 22:21
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Every time I read the word Dungeonmans, it's in the same voice as the Trojan Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z54MpfR3XE4
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Nov 3, 2017 22:24
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Golden Krone Hotel's soundtrack is pretty amazing
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Nov 3, 2017 22:27
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Every year or so I will check to see if Hokuto no Rogue has had any updates and i get disappointed that it hasn't.
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Nov 3, 2017 22:40
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Every single person here is an apologist for some bad game. Nethack is a fantastic game, sir 
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Nov 3, 2017 22:57
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ToxicFrog posted:ToME4 is the closest I've seen -- the unlockable Adventurer class lets you pick a bunch of skill lines from any normal class. Unlike Dredmor, though, each one is only four skills long, and no effort has been made to balance skills from different classes against each other, so it's fun but also kinda broken. poo poo, I should play ToME4 again and see if my ridiculous "what is damage" tri-mindstar-wielding shield-stacking damage-ignoring attrition build is still any good.
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Nov 3, 2017 23:00
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:the world map and routing around its travel time with the corruption clock is like the coolest unique thing about adom. If love to see adom's corruption mechanics in a more visual game. Also the addition of some random dungeons did wonders in making getting an AoLS not feel like a grind because you're exploring a new dungeon and not running in circles in the ID. I realize its dice rolls but I haven't had to grind an amulet since those dungeons got added. Theres not even much routing for ultras anyway. Tweak your first kill and depending on luck put off crowning for awhile. The tower is the only point where going for an ultra feels really different until 90% through the main quest. Though I still think a good AoLS solution would be to make it like the puppy cave and have Khelly be in good health if you get there before a time limit.
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Nov 3, 2017 23:25
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Because of you assholes, I launched ADOM again, made a mist elf priest with the Candle sign and tuned the stats to boost St and To as high as they would go, left just enough points unspent to get four talents and bought Heir and Alert for later Treasure Hunter (since I have to skip all the iron crap lying around). The Mist Elf Priest Heir Gift is a blessed swift eternium mace of the Sun, which smears most early mobs across the dungeon in a fine paste, and the starting elven chain mail ain't bad either. Candle + Priestly healing mostly makes up for a mediocre (rather than terrible) Toughness and since you are an elf you start with a bow. Of course, in the process of throwing several of these into the Small Cave grinder to get one UD run prepped ADOM somehow locked its score file twice and crashed started experiencing an error every time I died subsequently, trying to save the game at that single instant. 
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Nov 3, 2017 23:29
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Every single person here is an apologist for some bad game. i've decided i'm going to whiteknight slash'em extended  for a good laugh take a look at the race and class selection and post which one confuses or offends you the most. truly this is the best version of nethack
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:for a good laugh take a look at the race and class selection and post which one confuses or offends you the most. truly this is the best version of nethack
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Nov 4, 2017 03:17
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Kobold Sex Tape posted:i've decided i'm going to whiteknight slash'em extended quote:loli .... Nethack Wiki posted:The Transvestite is a role specific to Slash'EM Extended. They are a melee combat class, and can be any race or alignment. Some of their features may seem offensive to some players, but Amy Bluescreenofdeath (creator of Slash'EM Extended) explicitly states it's not meant to offend anyone; rather, the Transvestite role is just meant to be unique. Slash'EM Extended is just a video game; NHINRL. Also, the role's inclusion in the game does not represent any things that real-life transvestites do; instead, it's based on Amy's own bizarre fantasies. 
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Nov 4, 2017 03:28
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Joke's on you, I'm too casual to figure any of that out. you've forced my hand. here's a selection of some of the weirdest poo poo on the wiki Races posted:American - All skills are restricted for them, which means they are a harder-than-hard race. However, when combined with the Gladiator role, they may learn random techniques on leveling up. Classes posted:Goffs are constantly high on acid, and they're also very slow so they're very hard to keep alive. The first thing they need to do (unless their player read spoilers) is figuring out what their starting inventory actually is, and even if they find a way to stop the hallucinations (which is possible), their slow movement speed will make the entire game much harder. Finding an item that gives permanent speed (preferably "very fast", e.g. speed boots) should be the Goff's top priority. However, they also need to adhere to the "anorexia conduct" that puts restrictions on eating, and if that wasn't enough, they're also permanently vampiric meaning they can only drain fresh blood from corpses. This means that unless they find a ring of slow digestion, they'll constantly be low on food.
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Nov 4, 2017 03:31
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PMush Perfect posted:The internet was a mistake. and yeeeep those. also fun is there's a bunch of stupid new trap types. there's one that makes you have to solve a Captcha which is actually pretty funny. there's also one that makes you poop. because why not.
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Nov 4, 2017 03:32
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It's been a long time since I've played SLASH'EM it seems. I don't remember it being so...outrageous.
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Nov 4, 2017 03:36
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SettingSun posted:It's been a long time since I've played SLASH'EM it seems. I don't remember it being so...outrageous. SLASH'EM is fine. This monstrosity is SLASH'EM Extended. as far as i'm aware its maintainer is the only person that plays it seriously or has beaten it at all
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Nov 4, 2017 03:39
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Oh no I purposely made an ADOM character with minimum strength to try and exploit starting equipment bumping it up, but decided to try a bard which doesn't start with anything heavy so now I just have 5 strength. Edit: The game is suddenly loaded with overlays explaining commands and word balloons for characters talking and I very much want to not have these things. Dr. Dos fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 04:02
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Dr. Dos posted:Oh no I purposely made an ADOM character with minimum strength to try and exploit starting equipment bumping it up, but decided to try a bard which doesn't start with anything heavy so now I just have 5 strength. those are brand new and you can turn them off in the = menu i think. the command explanation is "show newbie advice" i think and the speech bubble one is the only one that mentions speech bubbles so that's pretty easy to spot. Biskup's Attempts At Appealing To Casuals
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Nov 4, 2017 04:09
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Slash'Em Extended is an interesting idea in theory but the only test for getting in as far as I'm aware is whether it compiles.
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Cogmind: Is there any way to deal with enemies that have sensors/x-ray vision and wall piercing guns besides murdering them?
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Nov 4, 2017 10:16
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Any of you has played Hero Siege? I saw it reccommended elsewhere and I'm curious, I like twin stick shooters with roguelike elements but I'm super bad at them, never beaten Nuclear Throne.
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Nov 4, 2017 11:27
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Slash'em is cool and all, but has it even won roguelike of the year?
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Angry Lobster posted:Any of you has played Hero Siege? I saw it reccommended elsewhere and I'm curious, I like twin stick shooters with roguelike elements but I'm super bad at them, never beaten Nuclear Throne.
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If you go back and read the patch notes for Hero Siege, it reads like the patch notes for AI War: Fleet Command. They're continually adding new systems and ripping out old ones to try and make the game polished; I don't know if it works. Recently they changed the game from an arena wave-based game to open-world, and changed the entire multiplayer/lobby system.
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Nov 4, 2017 18:55
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Hero Siege felt like a glorified flash game and the multiplayer was very buggy last I played like 2 years ago.
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Finished Cryptark this morning  My 3yo has been insisting on Cryptark a lot lately -- by which I mean, he starts it up and picks a mode and an exo, then tells me to play while he gives me instructions like "we want to explode the factory so we can see the wrench repair it, but don't set off the alarm!" -- but I finally convinced him to pick Excavation Mode rather than Rogue or Campaign and cleared it on the first try. He thinks the blacksuits are cool.  I've only got three artifacts left now, but two of them are "Campaign 4+: 3 max hull" and "Campaign 5+: $80k loadout", so I'm not confident I'll ever get those.
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Angry Lobster posted:Any of you has played Hero Siege? I saw it reccommended elsewhere and I'm curious, I like twin stick shooters with roguelike elements but I'm super bad at them, never beaten Nuclear Throne. I have tried it and would say it's not great. I'm not good at Nuclear Throne either but Hero Siege does not have screen shake or any of the other things that make me want to try again anyway like NT does. e: Glorified flash game is extremely on the money.
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Ok, I'll pass then, will look elsewhere to scratch my roguelite itch. Thanks for the feedback.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:23
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I haven't played Hero Siege, but Monolith is very good. If I had to rate the top down shooter genre based on what I've played I'd say 1) Nuclear Throne 2) Monolith and 3) Enter the Gungeon. I did not like Deathstate, but I'm in the minority on that one
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Nov 5, 2017 00:47
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God dammit now when I get home from work I’ll have to explain why ADOM is true trash and why I still decided to ultra it with a human farmer and will drat well do it again with a volcanic cataclysm eating the chain once he finally finishes his updates in another six years
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I haven't played Hero Siege, but Monolith is very good. If I had to rate the top down shooter genre based on what I've played I'd say 1) Nuclear Throne 2) Monolith and 3) Enter the Gungeon. I did not like Deathstate, but I'm in the minority on that one You'd rank Gungeon above Cryptark? Really? I mean, yes, artistically it's side-on, but mechanically it's a top-down shooter.
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I have not played Cryptark. I've had my eye on it though. I'm much more interested now that you've compared it to these.
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Black August posted:God dammit now when I get home from work I’ll have to explain why ADOM is true trash and why I still decided to ultra it with a human farmer and will drat well do it again with a volcanic cataclysm eating the chain once he finally finishes his updates in another six years holy poo poo I read this post before reading the username and I knew it was you
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I have not played Cryptark. I've had my eye on it though. I'm much more interested now that you've compared it to these. Here's how I would describe these games:
If I had to rank them, it'd be Nuclear Throne > Cryptark > Monolith >>> Gungeon. The first three are all good games though, so check 'em out. Gungeon, on the other hand, is very much not to my tastes. The other games have much tighter pacing: in Nuclear Throne and Monolith both the entire game takes maybe 15-20 minutes. Cryptark is a little slower but is also set up so you can easily put the game down between missions and come back later. Even if you don't, a reasonably completionist run takes 45 minutes to an hour. Gungeon runs start at the hour length, and they just feel. so. slow. Why do I have to shoot these dumb little popcorn enemies so many times before they finally die? Why do I have to stop and reload my weapons all the time? Why are the levels so huge and yet so empty? I love Gungeon's aesthetic and concept, and I was super-hyped for the game before it launched, but man they needed to run that game through the distillery a few more times to get a tighter play experience.
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I deeply appreciate the hunter class in Gungeon for starting with a weapon that can actually one-shot the popcorn.
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