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MasterSlowPoke posted:You can't argue against an irrational belief if the believer doesn't want to change his or her mind. I just checked YouTube after I read this, there are probably hundreds of 'hoax' videos on the Las Vegas shooting already.
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von Braun posted:I just checked YouTube after I read this, there are probably hundreds of 'hoax' videos on the Las Vegas shooting already. Only hundreds? Ha 
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Oct 5, 2017 01:20
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As someone said earlier, they see conspiracies because they need them to be true to have a single handle on the world around them. If they know about the secret chemtrail conspiracy, then they have a secret advantage over everyone else, so when they get fired for being a weirdo creep they can blame the chemtrails, and when they get evicted they can blame the chemtrails. It's a pretty vicious circle because these conspiracies just make your life worse when you delve into them, making it necessary to have new conspiracies to help explain all the bad poo poo that happened since you divorced yourself from reality.
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Viewtiful Jew posted:There's no way to get through to people once they start believing in things like "Crisis Actors" is there? Once they've crossed that threshold it's probably impossible to get them back huh? MasterSlowPoke posted:You can't argue against an irrational belief if the believer doesn't want to change his or her mind. Tias posted:Not so, fortunately. A lot of conspiracists crack from the strain of isolation and the symptoms of untreated mental illness and get help. We get the occasional poster here on SA saying they recovered, usually by improving other areas of their life and realizing they didn't need to see ghosts everywhere.
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Reading through Breitbart comments on the Las Vegas attack I saw people claiming multiple shooters, shooter is secret FBI agent, secret ISIS agent, etc.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Reading through Breitbart comments on the Las Vegas attack I saw people claiming multiple shooters, shooter is secret FBI agent, secret ISIS agent, etc. Studies have shown people who believe one conspiracy theory will often believe multiple, even conflicting ones. They "know" something doesn't add up and will believe it just because its not the "official" story
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This is making its way around CT circles A lot of those things aren't true, and things that are, aren't really that special? Besides FALSE FLAG you always get people talking about how what they did is way beyond the capabilities of normal people. That what they did could only be done by highly trained Delta Force and Navy SEAL operatives. Also no known motive does not mean no motive. There's also this  do all  types have face blindness? They're constantly saying "Person x is actually Person Y" when they look nothing a like other than both being humans.
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Don't know about the part where he disabled alarms, and "aimed" is a bit of an exaggeration when the target is enormous, but other than that yes, you've got the story straight.
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And I'm pretty sure he paid some minimum wage hotel schlub to take his "cases" upstairs (on that modern wonder, Mr. Otis' miraculous Elevator, not step by step up 30 flights of stairs), and he didn't "remove" the window, he broke a hole in it, and it wasn't a secret snipers nest, it was his loving suite. But other than that and the aforementioned...
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Oct 5, 2017 23:24
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Let me get this straight, a guy with no special training managed to get into a hotel room along with his luggage?!!?
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Oct 5, 2017 23:40
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This is so wildly inaccurate that it might be a parody. https://townhall.com/notebook/stevesheldon/2017/10/05/please-stop-with-the-conspiracy-theories-regarding-the-las-vegas-shooting-n2390700 Are CTs this stupid? Of course they are.
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twistedmentat posted:This is so wildly inaccurate that it might be a parody. ctOS is from the video game Watch Dogs, so yeah it is.
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Does anyone have the original website that was promoting the crisis actor bullshit pre-Sandy Hook? I know James Tracy promoted it after Sandy Hook and that's when it really took off, but I remember seeing a website from before that linked in an older thread that was promoting the idea that had really obviously wrong accusations of various celebrities being the same alongside crisis actor accusations from earlier incidents that was pretty clearly a case of face blindness that seemed to be the original origin.
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Oct 6, 2017 09:00
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That's the Well Aware guy. He is legit crazy and insists everyone is actually a famous celeb. His evidence is a bunch of red lines going to facial features that don't match
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My mom watches this guy (and I think has sent him money). I can't decide if he is genuinely mentally ill, a scammer, or a little bit of both. I just can't sit through his videos all the way to watch them. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3NFHqD3AAU90eqhI5XvOFA She watches other videos from other people. I've had to tell her she's no longer welcome at our house and she still won't get help. As others have said, you can't force people to get better and get help. Its very frustrating that she believes randos on the internet over her own family. I have a degree in media arts and have worked in media and she still doesn't loving believe me. She's a flat earther too. Her clinging to her crazy ideas are more important to her than having a relationship with her only grandchild.
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twistedmentat posted:That's the Well Aware guy. He is legit crazy and insists everyone is actually a famous celeb. His evidence is a bunch of red lines going to facial features that don't match Is that what this is referencing? 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Is that what this is referencing? Yup. Vice has a good article, for vice https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkm4k/this-man-believes-all-major-news-events-are-staged-by-actors He thinks Morgan Freeman is Nelson Mandela, but also Jimi Hendricks.
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twistedmentat posted:Yup. What the ever living gently caress? Mandela and Freeman sure, a passing resemblance at a quick glance, maybe I could even accept "they look alike" but Hendrix? He might as well have chosen a Chinese guy for his third.
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504 posted:What the ever living gently caress? Mandela and Freeman sure, a passing resemblance at a quick glance, maybe I could even accept "they look alike" but Hendrix? He might as well have chosen a Chinese guy for his third. These people are neurologically unable to recognize faces without extreme effort and long term personal exposure, and even then things as minor as a haircut will ruin their ability to recognize people.
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twistedmentat posted:That's the Well Aware guy. He is legit crazy and insists everyone is actually a famous celeb. His evidence is a bunch of red lines going to facial features that don't match Thanks! I love how even with all his bullshit about how absolutely every major event of the past century was a hoax even he finds the time to laugh at Flat Earthers.
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504 posted:What the ever living gently caress? Mandela and Freeman sure, a passing resemblance at a quick glance, maybe I could even accept "they look alike" but Hendrix? He might as well have chosen a Chinese guy for his third. I also like that he gave up being a famous rock star to become a more famous movie star. A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Thanks! I love how even with all his bullshit about how absolutely every major event of the past century was a hoax even he finds the time to laugh at Flat Earthers. Yea, even thought flat earthers are the new hotness, they're still looked down upon by the rest of the CT community. They're the Orbital Laser brought down the WTC of the wider community.
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So...................how about them there Kennedy papers released? I can't lol hard enough that the FBI actually knew well before that Oswald was a crazy nut and didn't do anything about it. Considering it wouldn't be the last time our intelligence agencies knew about people that would eventually go on to kill a bunch of people.
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Jiro posted:So...................how about them there Kennedy papers released? just being a crazy nut isn't enough. you have to catch someone while they are preparing for an act but before they've done it, which is a very small window. the fbi knew about adam lanza being a nut years before he did sandy hook but there wasn't poo poo they could do because he hadn't done anything illegal and so had no grounds on which to intervene. being a crazy nut isn't against the law
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boner confessor posted:just being a crazy nut isn't enough. you have to catch someone while they are preparing for an act but before they've done it, which is a very small window. the fbi knew about adam lanza being a nut years before he did sandy hook but there wasn't poo poo they could do because he hadn't done anything illegal and so had no grounds on which to intervene. being a crazy nut isn't against the law This is also why you hear about those "the fbi basically gave this person a fake bomb and got them to push the plunger" cases.
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boner confessor posted:just being a crazy nut isn't enough. you have to catch someone while they are preparing for an act but before they've done it, which is a very small window. the fbi knew about adam lanza being a nut years before he did sandy hook but there wasn't poo poo they could do because he hadn't done anything illegal and so had no grounds on which to intervene. being a crazy nut isn't against the law Only in America does having a ton of guns and being a crazy nut isn't considered a threat. But then in the US government was sane and not lead around by the balls by the NRA, it probably would. Truthers are scum https://www.salon.com/2017/10/27/and-now-conspiracy-theorists-are-threatening-las-vegas-shooting-survivors/ Got some new Well Aware crazy too Yul Brenner and Anton LeVey were the same person! For some reason  What??? Tim Conway is Halderman???  And this is just the cherry on the crazy sundae, Graham Chapman is Prince Charles! 
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Alterian posted:My mom watches this guy (and I think has sent him money). I can't decide if he is genuinely mentally ill, a scammer, or a little bit of both. I just can't sit through his videos all the way to watch them. If your mother is a flat-earther you can just buy a go-pro and a weather balloon to prove the earth is curved.
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twistedmentat posted:Only in America does having a ton of guns and being a crazy nut isn't considered a threat. But then in the US government was sane and not lead around by the balls by the NRA, it probably would. technically he didn't own any guns, his mother did
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Jiro posted:So...................how about them there Kennedy papers released? There are a poo poo ton of crazies out there. If the fbi just swooped them all up, they’d deny us the glory of time cube and colloidal silver. It’s the price of liberty really. 
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Triskelli posted:If your mother is a flat-earther you can just buy a go-pro and a weather balloon to prove the earth is curved. The atmosphere causes lens distortions that high up. 
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"He was a crazy nut! Why wasn't he locked up?" is a really shaky line to cross. It seems easy now in retrospect, but you go into a really dark gray area when you start talking about imprisoning people and confiscating their property (or in the case of Adam Lanza, their family's property) when they haven't committed a crime. Considering all the powers police already abuse in America, giving them more isn't exactly something I'm eager to do.
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Maybe we should invest in providing free public mental health care instead, since that would be in the public interest Wait, would that possibly benefit poors or minorities? Maybe not then
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Jiro posted:So...................how about them there Kennedy papers released? He was on the radar because he had defected to the Soviet Union but he was such a loser, glory hound I imagine the people who were tasked with watching him didn't take him seriously. There was good evidence he tried to kill General Walker but that's never been confirmed 100% to my knowledge. It was also the 60's so I imagine the information didn't go up the chain fast enough or in a way that was taken seriously by higher ups. The FBI totally dropped the ball, like someone always does when these things happen in the modern era, but it's reasonable to believe that Oswald wasn't taken seriously because his life had been a sad joke up to that point. Fun fact, he bought his rifle through the National Rifleman, the NRA magazine. It was through an ad and mail order but even before the NRA going crazy they were at the center of a gun controversy. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 28, 2017 |
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:There was good evidence he tried to kill General Walker but that's never been confirmed 100% to my knowledge. It's been a while since I read about that incident, but I'm pretty sure that none other than Marina established to within very very little doubt that he he made that run at Walker. I believe they found recon photos of the general's home in Oswald's possessions.
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