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nickmeister posted:Flame looks fake...? Not sure because I'm watching on my pgpne. But why add fire when it's already good enough? It's more like being broke in the brain from having spent your formative years in a deprive and/or abusive environment. For the in-laws, it is probably the worst of the Mao years. For a lot of the recent Chinese students overseas, it's the irrationally strict upbringing along with the social stunting that comes along with it. They never develop the emotional experience and skills to process new stimuli, let alone tolerate it. So their brain defaults back to its safe place and sticks with what's familiar. They come up with vague excuses like "tastes bad" or "not healthy" after the fact to mask their brain short-circuiting. What I'm really saying is that being raised by a tiger mom is the same as going through the Cultural Revolution.
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ekuNNN posted:I'm going to Beijing for work for 10 days soon, this thread has gotten me very excited for it go see the forbidden city and preserved mao and the temple of heaven its p cool
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 02:20 |
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http://www.visualcapitalist.com/31-chinese-cities-economies-big-countries/ but apparently quote:Unfortunately it is comparing GDP nominal of countries to GDP PPP of chinese cities, that is complete nonsense and has no value at all. So the Shanghai actually has half of that GDP, 414 billion USD.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 02:41 |
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Relin posted:http://www.visualcapitalist.com/31-chinese-cities-economies-big-countries/ PPP the gift that keeps on giving
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 02:48 |
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Relin posted:http://www.visualcapitalist.com/31-chinese-cities-economies-big-countries/ the author responded to that in the comments saying the brooking's institute mislabeled them or something (he then changed nothing)
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 03:33 |
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Coolguye posted:the author responded to that in the comments saying the brooking's institute mislabeled them or something (he then changed nothing) lmfao "yes this does make my entire article lies but i will keep it up for reasons"
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:25 |
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It kind of got lost in the larger story of crazy in-laws, but mantou is really The Worst. It’s basically a large dinner roll-sized lump of absolute flavorless blandness that makes a slice of processed white bread seem like a taste explosion by comparison. On top of that, despite being steamed it is somehow so dry that it actively leaches moisture from your mouth as you try to chew and swallow. There’s tons of delicious steamed Chinese dumplings/baozi/etc. out there, but I just can’t imagine mantou coming about except as a famine food, as in “welp, this rice flour is all we have, so it’s either this or starving”. It’s the very definition of unsatisfying empty calories, and frankly if my in-laws had been forcing them on me 3x/day I might have lost it before AO did. Even a bowl of plain white rice would be far more tolerable.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:32 |
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mantou is made of wheat flour execution makes it vary a little, but it's the second most plain food i've ever eaten, after fufu. white bread is actually pretty flavorful in the grand continuum of bland-rear end foods, because it is in imitation of real bread, which is delicious with only a little butter never eat either mantou or fufu without something else, god e: greatest breakfast I ever had was in paris, a baguette straight from the brasserie with some cultured butter can actually have a quite analogous experience with rice and some vegetables can't w/ mantou or fufu
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:35 |
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Plain mantou is like Wonderbread, it’s nothing special. Something like a gua bao (braised pork, pickles, peanuts, cilantro in a sort of mantou pocket) is pretty good though.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:42 |
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^^^^^^^ Yeah that’s like a really fluffy baozi and not bad at all. My hate is mainly reserved for plain mantou which is what I assumed his in laws were eating. bob dobbs is dead posted:mantou is made of wheat flour I’ll be damned you’re right, somehow I had it in my head it was rice flour. Makes sense why it’s more a northern thing then. Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Nov 6, 2017 |
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Mantou can be good, but again Taiwan Number 1. It's the one thing my father-in-law makes that's not awful. But he rarely leaves them plain. He mixes in fruit and flavorings (brown sugar for instance) so they're not just dry steamed wheat flour.
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Known Lecher posted:I’ll be damned you’re right, somehow I had it in my head it was rice flour. Makes sense why it’s more a northern thing then. Some Vietnamese-style steamed buns will use some rice flour mixed with wheat, and they are shittier because of that. The buns crumble apart like cake and somehow taste blander.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 05:09 |
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my favorite part of that in-laws story is that cultural factors have completely destroyed their reaction times, spatial awareness, survival instinct, and compassion for life partners if these guys were centenarians i'd be like okay fine, but aren't they like in their 60s? yo my wifes face is meeeeeega hosed up, but i only get a chance to buy pigs feet and chinese vegetables once every couple of weeks and im sure the bleeding will stop while she waits in the sun for an hour, things are fine
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 05:34 |
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All this talk about bland, unimaginative Chinese food reminds me of that Vice article written by an angry ABC girl who was angry about bland "white people" food. And also Marco Polo brought cured ham from China only actually the Romans were doing it in like 200BC so
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 05:51 |
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angel opportunity posted:My in-laws have been here over 2 months again. They are thankfully leaving soon. There's a number of things that happened but I'll type up the "best" one. I didn't really feel like typing this up because it makes me more mad than anything. I don't really find it funny as it's mostly just infuriating. love u bud
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hakimashou posted:go see the forbidden city and preserved mao and the temple of heaven its p cool By "go see" I hope you mean, "take a photo of the front gate and keep walking". It's 99% empty, and is almost literally the same 2 empty buildings over and over again. It's like some lazy level designer for a game just copied and pasted his three models until he got bored. The only artefacts in it are really, really unimpressive. Check out the military museum instead.
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Blistex posted:By "go see" I hope you mean, "take a photo of the front gate and keep walking". It's 99% empty, and is almost literally the same 2 empty buildings over and over again. It's like some lazy level designer for a game just copied and pasted his three models until he got bored. The only artefacts in it are really, really unimpressive. Check out the military museum instead. I like the section where they pasted a bunch of rocks together for reasons I don't fully understand edit: I don't understand why the glued the rocks, but I also don't understand why I liked it
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 06:28 |
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Blistex posted:By "go see" I hope you mean, "take a photo of the front gate and keep walking". It's 99% empty, and is almost literally the same 2 empty buildings over and over again. It's like some lazy level designer for a game just copied and pasted his three models until he got bored. The only artifacts in it are really, really unimpressive. Check out the military museum instead. temple of heaven is okay because the archways are like you are walking through ancient buttholes
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 06:29 |
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This pretty much sums up the Forbidden City
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 06:33 |
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Blistex posted:By "go see" I hope you mean, "take a photo of the front gate and keep walking". It's 99% empty, and is almost literally the same 2 empty buildings over and over again. It's like some lazy level designer for a game just copied and pasted his three models until he got bored. The only artefacts in it are really, really unimpressive. Check out the military museum instead. Military museum run by the CCP is probably really funny
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 06:42 |
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Fojar38 posted:Military museum run by the CCP is probably really funny Are there any countries that have museums that are like "oh yeah we got our asses handed to us. we also hosed up situations plenty without outside interference". I remember the korean ones were all like "AND SO THE NOBLE PEACEFUL KOREAN FINALLY REPULSED THE EVIL JAPANESE MONKEYS" and then "(some other countries may have helped)" like way at the bottom. or "BEHOLD THE AMAZING NETTING RECOVERED FROM AN EXCAVATION THAT WAS USED BY OUR SEAFARING ANCESTORS" and it's really really clearly nylon and I think I see a price tag on it too I vaguely recall exhibits at the smithsonian, but not really the tone. when I'd take students there they always wanted to see the hope diamond.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 07:02 |
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NZ war museums tend to have a lot of 'Lest We Forget' chiseled everywhere in stone. The theme is usually how a lot of young guys died for no good reason. Amusingly, for the centenary celebration of Anzac Day there was a US article where the editor was puzzled why we'd celebrate a battle we lost so badly. Kinda says a lot.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 07:08 |
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I just realized the smithsonian has a native american museum that was built after I left...I wonder how that is....
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Fojar38 posted:Military museum run by the CCP is probably really funny It's cool to look at all the old Soviet hardware and captured equipment. As far as learning something about history that isn't heavily CCP-coated?
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 07:40 |
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the US national ww1 museum that's near me in Kansas City generally says "holy loving poo poo this entire goddamn war was pointless why did we do this to ourselves" it mostly dedicates itself to remembering the build up (and highlighting how goddamn stupid it was) and remembering the fighting (and highlighting how brutally and unrelentingly hellish it was) individual battles are largely footnotes, and the majority of the exhibits are dominated by memorials to the dead on all sides and shout outs to the civilians who suffered because they were in the way i guess it's easier to hype up world war 2 because there honestly was a lot of ideology and order of the world stuff at stake, but ww1 was just more stupid bullshit from the colonial era where some rich dude got his poo poo ruined and/or feelings hurt and that meant war had to happen because gently caress you that's why
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 07:42 |
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nickmeister posted:All this talk about bland, unimaginative Chinese food reminds me of that Vice article written by an angry ABC girl who was angry about bland "white people" food. And also Marco Polo brought cured ham from China only actually the Romans were doing it in like 200BC so ABCs and their types really are the best
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angel opportunity posted:"Ughghhhhhhwaaaahhhhhhhh????" At least you got to write a good story. Looking forward to the next story when they'll be back. Hey dude, you don't want to have them back, yea?
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ladron posted:Are there any countries that have museums that are like "oh yeah we got our asses handed to us...... Us military dude here, I love to go to museums in foreign countries. Civilized countries treat their losses (ww2 is the biggest source of this) with about as much respect as you can. Japan and Germany are the ones I remember most clearly, and the theme is basically "remembering the past without glorifying our wrong-doing" A overwhelming majority of Japanese people treat WW2 as a dark time for their country. Germany obviously does as well. That said, you still feel super lovely for looking at bombed out ruins and civilian death counts knowing your country did it. If you want a good analogy, go to a civil war museum. (Note- if you are a college student, ignore this and erase history because it hurts your feelings) I haven't got to go to one that makes me laugh, but I really want to. I will have to check out SKorea next time im in the area. It sounds like a blast.
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Serephina posted:NZ war museums tend to have a lot of 'Lest We Forget' chiseled everywhere in stone. The theme is usually how a lot of young guys died for no good reason. Amusingly, for the centenary celebration of Anzac Day there was a US article where the editor was puzzled why we'd celebrate a battle we lost so badly. Kinda says a lot. The rather sombre bit was the War Memorial in Auckland having a marble wall with the names of the fallen on - pretty standard. But about half the wall is empty. The caption over that empty bit basically says 'If any names pop up here, you hosed up. You didn't learn a loving thing."
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Double Monocle posted:A overwhelming majority of Japanese people treat WW2 as a dark time for their country. a dark time like "man it was rough what they did to us" or dark time like "wow, we all kinda went a little crazy there and got justifiably stopped"?
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Double Monocle posted:I haven't got to go to one that makes me laugh, but I really want to. I will have to check out SKorea next time im in the area. It sounds like a blast. definitely check out Seodaemun prison. I men, I don't know if it will make you *laugh*, but....basically, it was a prison used by the japanese to inter koreans during the 40 year or so japanese annexation. the japanese kinda have a justifiable reputation for being kinda brutal around this time, and that is depicted with almost cartoonish glee, and all the propaganda that goes with it..like bugs bunny bucktooth glasses "me so solly" poo poo. what is decidedly missing, tho, is the fact that the prison was used for like another 40 so years AFTER the japanese left, and koreans were torturing koreans there just as bad as the japanese did.
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Double Monocle posted:If you want a good analogy, go to a civil war museum. (Note- if you are a college student, ignore this and erase history because it hurts your feelings) What college is John Kelly enrolled at?
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 08:34 |
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ladron posted:a dark time like "man it was rough what they did to us" or dark time like "wow, we all kinda went a little crazy there and got justifiably stopped"? Depends. Though I've never been, I've seen photographs showing the various descriptions of WWII events from the Yasukuni Shrine museum. It's revisionist and shifts the blame to foreign causes while skipping over any Japanese atrocities. I'd imagine it's different at other museums though. But I am not a Japanese so I cannot comment.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 08:38 |
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Yeah the tone in Japan depends on where you are. I went to a WW2 museum in Tokyo that was like "yeah we were assholes and we got our poo poo wrecked, rip", but the nuke memorial museum in Hiroshima is 100% "oh dear oh my look how bad we suffered oh dearie me when will nukes be a memory write to those darned warmongers in Washington today" while completely neglecting all of the context behind why the nukes were used and why the modern situation is a little more complicated than "everyone put down the guns ok"
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 08:57 |
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ladron posted:definitely check out Seodaemun prison. I men, I don't know if it will make you *laugh*, but....basically, it was a prison used by the japanese to inter koreans during the 40 year or so japanese annexation. the japanese kinda have a justifiable reputation for being kinda brutal around this time, and that is depicted with almost cartoonish glee, and all the propaganda that goes with it..like bugs bunny bucktooth glasses "me so solly" poo poo. Lol that is the first museum I visited in Korea. It's a bit dull, except for the above-mentioned.
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angel opportunity posted:My in-laws have been here over 2 months again. They are thankfully leaving soon. There's a number of things that happened but I'll type up the "best" one. I didn't really feel like typing this up because it makes me more mad than anything. I don't really find it funny as it's mostly just infuriating. Mainlanders grow on strict eating schedules from birth, which do no change from primary school through university, and then into the working life, and into retirement. Everything is exactly the same timing. Breakfast = 6am to 8am, anything later and it's too close to lunch, better starve. Lunch = 12pm to 2pm, usually eat immediately at 12 and then nap until 2. Dinner is 6pm to 7pm, but maybe a little later on Fridays and weekends. I would say about 80% of the Mainlanders I have talked to or known have formed an inadvertent litmus test for me of seeing how open their minds are at the reaction to my varied eating times. Do they scold me for eating lunch at 3 or 4pm, or comment how strange it is that I am doing that? Do they complain about my occasional intermittent fasting? How many times do they tell me how unhealthy I will be for drinking cold drinks or eating ice cream. My favorite is the "Why are you trying to lose weight?" if I eat a meal a few hours later than they expect me to, as if the pause before a meal is going to drastically alter my body structure. If I eat an early dinner at 5pm or something, they don't understand how I can even go to bed, because I must be dying of hunger. Like, LOL, your white rice and steamed buns just make your blood sugar crash. Try some fiber for once. FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Tank Man was carrying groceries. Face culture abhors when someone else tells you what to do. Tank Man was not a revolutionary or standing up to tyranny. He just wanted to go home and was pissed at all these stupid protesters and tanks getting in his way. Just like that lone car driving the wrong way on a Chinese highway, he was that one guy that wanted to assert himself just because.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 09:29 |
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AO, sorry you had to go through that. Thank you for the writeup. It was hilarious.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 09:35 |
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Here's an experiment courtesy of reddit for those outside the middle kingdom: what happens when you search 性感 on youtube? Something is up because with a US based IP address, there aren't any results: 性感 translates to "sexy" so it isn't completely innocuous but it shouldn't be completely filtered if restricted mode is set to off. The Japanese and Korean equivalents (セクシー and 섹시한) both go through fine and return millions of hits. Searching through Google instead and searching "性感 site:youtube.com" does bring up youtube listings. I am left wondering why Google is tampering with Chinese language search results on youtube when they aren't compelled to do so.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 10:27 |
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Coolguye posted:Yeah the tone in Japan depends on where you are. I went to a WW2 museum in Tokyo that was like "yeah we were assholes and we got our poo poo wrecked, rip", but the nuke memorial museum in Hiroshima is 100% "oh dear oh my look how bad we suffered oh dearie me when will nukes be a memory write to those darned warmongers in Washington today" while completely neglecting all of the context behind why the nukes were used and why the modern situation is a little more complicated than "everyone put down the guns ok" The Hiroshima museum is just fine as a "nukes loving suck" kind of place. Any extraneous message on reasons they were used would only distract from this.
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big time bisexual posted:Here's an experiment courtesy of reddit for those outside the middle kingdom: what happens when you search 性感 on youtube? Zero results from the Netherlands and an odd white van parked outside my apartment.
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