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# ? Nov 3, 2017 22:15 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 15:23 |
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So you going to respond to the holes I put into that bs poll you posted?
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# ? Nov 3, 2017 22:20 |
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Trabisnikof posted:lol it totally is. lotta people outing themselves itt Outed as a guy who likes a song.
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 00:05 |
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JeffersonClay posted:Claims made here: This is awe-inspiringly Trumpy
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 01:25 |
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Falstaff posted:The last verse is the same as in the original, though...? no it isn't, he takes out references to socialism "Sure, once I was young and impulsive; I wore every conceivable pin, Even went to Socialist meetings, learned all the old Union hymns. Ah, but I've grown older and wiser, and that's why I'm turning you in." new versions of the song — even jello biafra's — almost uniformly suck in comparison, no one could craft a verse like phil
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 11:54 |
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Ah, I sit corrected, you're right.
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 14:13 |
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If you ever vacation in Martha's Vineyard you are given priority for your against the wall acomedations when the revolution comes.
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 21:09 |
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if you vacation in martha's vineyard you're still a pleb if you summer there you're true patrician
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# ? Nov 4, 2017 22:00 |
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selec posted:Parsing it closely, "The internal workings of the apparatus of the DNC" <> "The primary system" Well, the part of the memo where the DNC is required to encourage state parties to join the Hillary Victory Fund, essentially giving her campaign control over state level funding apparatus in August of 2015 is a pretty big thumb on the scale.
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 04:51 |
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joepinetree posted:Well, the part of the memo where the DNC is required to encourage state parties to join the Hillary Victory Fund, essentially giving her campaign control over state level funding apparatus in August of 2015 is a pretty big thumb on the scale. Surely you are not suggesting that by taking control of state-level funding she could encourage various superdelegates to endorse her or not get funding for their preferred state-level candidates, which would influence the opinion that Hillary would win the primary and drive down enthusiasm for her primary opponents.
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 08:42 |
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:JCsay: actually this reveals it was all Crazy Bernie's fault for running, if there hadn't been a primary election at all then taking over the DNC in 2015 wouldn't have been unethical. Why isn't Donna Brazile investigating Crazy Bernie big league. Sad! #LockHimUp
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 08:51 |
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Bernie threatening to destroy the DNC and Hillary forced them into each-others' arms. they had no choice
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 09:04 |
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logger posted:Surely you are not suggesting that by taking control of state-level funding she could encourage various superdelegates to endorse her or not get funding for their preferred state-level candidates, which would influence the opinion that Hillary would win the primary and drive down enthusiasm for her primary opponents. Or to convince other candidates cough*Biden*cough not to run explicitly citing how there would be no time to build a similar campaign
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 17:42 |
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joepinetree posted:Or to convince other candidates cough*Biden*cough not to run explicitly citing how there would be no time to build a similar campaign Biden didn’t run because of family tragedy by almost all accounts, not because of whatever Hillary was doing. IMO the most likely contender to have run if things were different is Booker.
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 18:08 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Biden didn’t run because of family tragedy by almost all accounts, not because of whatever Hillary was doing. 1- that is not what Biden said at the time: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/joe-biden-not-running-2016-election/index.html quote:mplicit in Biden's remarks was a realization that Clinton's position and organizational muscle in early voting states are just too strong for him to mount a credible challenge at such a late stage -- just three-and-a-half months before first votes are cast. and while in more recent interviews he did cite family more explicitly, he also said stuff like https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/why-joe-biden-didnt-run-for-president-and-why-hes-not-ruling-out-2020 quote:In the same period, Obama, too, had been trying to suss out Biden’s intentions, at their weekly one-on-one lunches at the White House. The president, in Biden’s telling, dropped heavy hints that, for the good of party unity, the vice president should stand down; Clinton’s political organization was formidable, and it was her turn. Obama further cited the excitement with which he personally was anticipating life after holding high office, and asked Biden, “Joe, have you focused on that? How do you want to spend the rest of your life?” So even when he mentions his family as a reason not to run, it is in the context that it would be an ugly fight against Clinton and that he didn't want to put his family through that. 2- Even setting aside all the stuff that Biden himself has said, in August of 2015 Clinton did not know that. All she knew was that Biden hadn't announced anything. In fact, since in August of that year Bernie wasn't seen as a strong contender yet, my main guess with regards to the memo was that it was signed as a way to cut off Biden, not Bernie.
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 18:23 |
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Obama allowing the DNC to go broke on his watch and then actively helping to clear the way for Hilary seems like a retroactive vindication of all the stuff Ron Susskind was writing about in 2011 in the book "Confidence Men" regarding Obama's leadership skills and political instincts.
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 18:44 |
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Helsing posted:Obama allowing the DNC to go broke on his watch and then actively helping to clear the way for Hilary seems like a retroactive vindication of all the stuff Ron Susskind was writing about in 2011 in the book "Confidence Men" regarding Obama's leadership skills and political instincts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the book you made a "Let's Read" thread for way back when, wasn't it?
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 18:47 |
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Trabisnikof posted:lol it totally is. lotta people outing themselves itt Sorry I'm not familiar with a song from fifty years ago
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 22:57 |
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JeffersonClay posted:Claims made here: Shut the gently caress up
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 22:58 |
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didn't states get like thousands at best from the money hillary raised in their names?
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 23:18 |
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R. Guyovich posted:no it isn't, he takes out references to socialism I just listened to the original and it is a fuckin scorcher goddamn
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# ? Nov 5, 2017 23:35 |
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Condiv posted:didn't states get like thousands at best from the money hillary raised in their names? Half of one percent of $84 million so about $420,000 to downticket races
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 01:55 |
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Tiberius Christ posted:Half of one percent of $84 million so about $420,000 to downticket races so about 8.4k per state! wow!
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 02:04 |
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loving love this forum!code:
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 02:10 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:loving love this forum! gently caress you but also gently caress me. We're all hosed. This is all hosed. gently caress.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:25 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:gently caress you but also gently caress me. We're all hosed. This is all hosed. gently caress. you're gonna have to commit seppuku over this one it's the only way to redress this crime against humanity
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:29 |
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Condiv posted:you're gonna have to commit seppuku over this one Getting myself demodded wasn't enough?
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:43 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Getting myself demodded wasn't enough? no. you can't wash this blood off your hands
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:53 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:loving love this forum! NathanScottPhillips posted:Nazis are people with bad opinions usually caused by a horrible family structure, lack of education and opportunities, and poverty. You are so blinded by your own lack of empathy that you view them as "subhuman trash" only worthy of violence. In fact you specifically say that simply talking to them cannot be justified. Sometimes both sides are fascists. lol get the gently caress out.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:55 |
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Condiv posted:no. you can't wash this blood off your hands Eh, it's virtual blood though.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 04:56 |
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Is Ron Paul another victim of SA? If one of you goons did this, I please let me know. Thanks,
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 08:40 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Nazis are people with bad opinions usually caused by a horrible family structure, lack of education and opportunities, and poverty. You are so blinded by your own lack of empathy that you view them as "subhuman trash" only worthy of violence. In fact you specifically say that simply talking to them cannot be justified. Sometimes both sides are fascists. My battery is about to die but some people where making basically the same arguments about US Veterans not too long ago. They didn't get banned.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 08:44 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:loving love this forum! shame about all the other posts
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 10:13 |
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Shbobdb posted:Is Ron Paul another victim of SA? It was me, there wasn't a politics aspect to it though, he just refused to clean up his loving dog turds off my lawn, and you know what where I grew up you meet that kind of micro-aggression with Macro-aggression. I liberated his ribs.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 11:07 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Eh, it's virtual blood though. cyber blood you spilled during cyber pearl harbor for shame...
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 12:07 |
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Well, on a positive note the attempt by an establishment Republican in Virginia to hitch himself onto the Trump bandwagon ended disastrously for the Republicans. It would have been really bad if Virginia set a precedent that any Republican rear end in a top hat can win close elections by scaremongering about MS-13 and sanctuary cities. If the GOP had pulled off a win in Virginia it would have been a big signal for other Republicans.Office Pig posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the book you made a "Let's Read" thread for way back when, wasn't it? I only remember posting excerpts from it when I was reading it myself but 2011 feels like a depressingly long time ago and I might be misremembering.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 22:33 |
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USPol liberals: If leftists want to prove they can win general elections, they should start by proving they can win primaries. Also USPol liberals: We have to rig primaries against leftists because they haven't yet proven to us they can win.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 06:57 |
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VitalSigns posted:USPol liberals: in the same vein "the general's not the time to try to change the party, the primary is!!" later: "we have to support the incumbent or we'll lose! no change ever!" even later: "the general's not the time to try to change the party, the primary is!!"
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 10:24 |
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I mean, the gently caress do you expect? These are people who reacted to the dem establishment completely blowing the most important election of the past forty years with desperately closing ranks around the incompetents running the party and by creating some dumb stab-in-the-back myth about the treacherous lefties and closing themselves off into a bubble where everything will be fixed if they can just win the next election. Reason isn't going to reach them, so the best thing to do is to ignore them, organize and defeat the bad dems politically. There's been some good progress on that front already.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 10:47 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 15:23 |
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21 of the 59 winners running in that last set of elections were backed by Our Revolution, plus the aforementioned DSA wins, taking them up to 35 or so representatives in government is definitely good progress.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 12:19 |