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Notification: add outlook to your device and get 100gb of onedrive storage for two years tap gently caress you we don't do that in your service area, here are some error messages. See you again on Wednesday.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 14:55 |
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flakeloaf posted:Notification: add outlook to your device and get 100gb of onedrive storage for two years explorer - view or whatever - options or whatever - disable sync provider notifications?
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 15:03 |
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yeah, now one drive can't tell me anything at all so I hope it never has anything useful to say, but lol at having to cj it into silence because an ad for someone else won't go away
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 15:19 |
flakeloaf posted:yeah, now one drive can't tell me anything at all so I hope it never has anything useful to say, but lol at having to cj it into silence because an ad for someone else won't go away do you even get ads if you actually use onedrive? ive got the notifications disabled on my machine since all i need to know is if sync is up to date, which you see in tray
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 15:29 |
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I get the odd one on desktop but on mobile oh boy
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 15:50 |
flakeloaf posted:I get the odd one on desktop but on mobile oh boy its dead silent on anroid.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 15:57 |
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funny story, it was an anroid notification that inspired my little tantrum
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 16:05 |
flakeloaf posted:funny story, it was an anroid notification that inspired my little tantrum oh i have 9 notifications since july 2016
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 16:14 |
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Knowing Microsoft legacy stuff, I bet the 5 character thing thing comes from a combination of trying to avoid unicode, plus giving a pad area for multiple version of the 5-character prefix, plus some legacy 8-char fun. Account for mjone999, etc.
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# ? Nov 6, 2017 23:32 |
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Powaqoatse posted:5 chars is lol I don't think long paths have been an actual issue for a long time now lol @ using a microsoft account as a windows login though
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 00:22 |
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my user folder on my home machine is a single character the user folder on my work machine is 6 characters
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 03:17 |
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I don't think long paths have been an actual issue for a long time now it and paths with spaces in their names is still a problem for a lot of command line stuff
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 03:19 |
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long paths are a hardcoded NTFS issue and are definitely still a thing, I had a client last year that had a nightmare folder share structure with long-winded filenames that were 12 folders deep and they never listened when we told them to stop doing that it's weird because if you mount a deeper part of the network as a drive letter that would generally get it to work, too
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 04:04 |
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univbee posted:long paths are a hardcoded NTFS issue and are definitely still a thing, I had a client last year that had a nightmare folder share structure with long-winded filenames that were 12 folders deep and they never listened when we told them to stop doing that it's great fun trying to delete these files only to be told the file names are too long for the recycle bin, even though files you erase on network drives don't go there "your folders are all called z now, gently caress you"
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 05:00 |
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:I don't think long paths have been an actual issue for a long time now they are, and while explorer will happily let you create paths longer than the limit, many file operations will fail when interacting with them
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 08:01 |
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infernal machines posted:they are, and while explorer will happily let you create paths longer than the limit, many file operations will fail when interacting with them I'm using refs in order to fix this but haven't tested it yet. I prefer to live in blissful ignorance
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 09:11 |
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univbee posted:long paths are a hardcoded NTFS issue and are definitely still a thing, I had a client last year that had a nightmare folder share structure with long-winded filenames that were 12 folders deep and they never listened when we told them to stop doing that Visual studio can trigger this issue when downloading nuget packages. It's absurd that this is still a problem in 2017.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 11:44 |
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Chalks posted:Visual studio can trigger this issue when downloading nuget packages. i think it is one of those that's loused up 30 years of applications by being a #define in a win32 header, so you can't just let it loose as it'll be a buffer overflow in everything everywhere in windows 10 the limit is a group policy, but applications have to opt in via manifest to work with it
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 12:08 |
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Visual Studio question: What makes enterprise edition worth so much more ?
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 14:17 |
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hobbesmaster posted:it and paths with spaces in their names is still a problem for a lot of command line stuff if someone is too stupid to wrap parameters in quotes to accommodate this then its their own fault
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:28 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:ifsomeon~1
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:33 |
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Boiled Water posted:Visual Studio question: What makes enterprise edition worth so much more ? it has additional tools and features for things like testing and debugging and probably some other things. whether they're worth it to you depends entirely on what you're doing and if you want to stick w/ stuff from Microsoft or use 3rd party stuff. like one of the things in enterprise is a data mock tool, but obv you can do data mocking without it. Unless you need a majority of the additional features its prob not worth it. also its probably the default purchase option for larger orgs so they don't even think about what they're actually getting.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:36 |
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Microsoft doesn’t test or debug so I don’t know why you’d pay extra for their tools to do that
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:37 |
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i should qualify that I won't be buying it at all, just wondering what could justify the price tag and jump from the previous tier
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:44 |
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yeah for most devs its totally not even close to worth it but I'm sure there are people for whom it is worth it for the whole suite and then the aforementioned enterprise purchasing where large corps buy it cause why not buy the whole thing? Also they don't pay retail prices.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:47 |
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univbee posted:long paths are a hardcoded NTFS issue and are definitely still a thing, I had a client last year that had a nightmare folder share structure with long-winded filenames that were 12 folders deep and they never listened when we told them to stop doing that ntfs isn't the problem, it can handle paths with 32k+ characters. the problem is that various bits of the win32 filesystem api and legacy apps (like explorer.exe*) still have a hardcoded path limit. MAX_PATH is still defined to 260 like it's 1998 and to use extended paths you explicitly have to prefix them with "\\?\", which many applications don't do. *maybe they finally fixed this, idk i haven't really touched a windows machine for a while
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 15:50 |
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petition to change thread title to, "Windows Insider? more like micro soft inside 'er!"
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 16:55 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:petition to change thread title to, "Windows Insider? more like micro soft inside 'er!" petition DENIED
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 17:11 |
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The_Franz posted:ntfs isn't the problem, it can handle paths with 32k+ characters. the problem is that various bits of the win32 filesystem api and legacy apps (like explorer.exe*) still have a hardcoded path limit. MAX_PATH is still defined to 260 like it's 1998 and to use extended paths you explicitly have to prefix them with "\\?\", which many applications don't do. yeah i thought raymond chen mtnioned this at one point and said that theyd love to change it but it would break binary compabitiilty for virtually every windows program or something
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 17:23 |
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i just ran a robocopy script where the destination was '%appdata%\some poo poo here' and instead of expanding %appdata% out it created a folder called %appdata% in the working directory, which i literally cannot access through explorer or the command prompt, as any attempts to cd to %appdata% get redirected microsoft
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 17:33 |
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Lysidas posted:yeah i thought raymond chen mtnioned this at one point and said that theyd love to change it but it would break binary compabitiilty for virtually every windows program or something i wonder if keeping long path support out of explorer.exe was a passive-aggressive attempt to enforce the legacy limit so that people couldn't put my_garbage_app.exe in a folder with a long path and have it mysteriously fail because internally it does code:
The_Franz fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 7, 2017 |
# ? Nov 7, 2017 17:49 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:petition to change thread title to, "Windows Insider? more like micro soft inside 'er!" hmm
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 17:49 |
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did microsoft ever attempt using new langs other than .net for their programs? i am assuming as a huge company they will have some extra people to experiment with new poo poo but at the same time this is the same company that popularized stack ranking so....
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:07 |
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.net is the runtime not a language, you can already use many different languages on the .net CLR, Microsoft publish a few like C#, managed C++, and F#. In terms of alternative runtimes I think there has been a lot of research trying to support multiple inheritance but idk what came of it. MrMoo fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Nov 7, 2017 |
# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:25 |
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NEED MORE MILK posted:i just ran a robocopy script where the destination was '%appdata%\some poo poo here' and instead of expanding %appdata% out it created a folder called %appdata% in the working directory, which i literally cannot access through explorer or the command prompt, as any attempts to cd to %appdata% get redirected
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:36 |
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MrMoo posted:.net is the runtime not a language, you can already use many different languages on the .net CLR, Microsoft publish a few like C#, managed C++, and F#. i meant the .net umbrella obviously what i was looking for was whether microsoft experimented with langs like ocaml, delphi, go, rust, lisp, haskell, etc... i know their engineers have but what about the company itself?
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:42 |
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lol well I think you could do UWP apps in js for a while there but the people who want to write windows desktop apps are the same people who are happy with c#
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:45 |
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NEED MORE MILK posted:i just ran a robocopy script where the destination was '%appdata%\some poo poo here' and instead of expanding %appdata% out it created a folder called %appdata% in the working directory, which i literally cannot access through explorer or the command prompt, as any attempts to cd to %appdata% get redirected
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:53 |
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i meant the .net umbrella obviously they started w/ java but sun kicked them out so that's where c# came from. c# and java are the best languages so aside from c and c++ there really isn't anything else you'd want to work with if ur @ Microsoft. Microsoft does have some research languages like Haskell, but obv that's not for production use.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i know their engineers have but what about the company itself? Microsoft officially supported Iron Python from what I can google, BofA like using that for some of their desktop apps. Does that count?
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 18:56 |