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M_Gargantua posted:diamonds harden under pressure into something beautiful and consistent. It's a hell of a bullet point for a CV: "Endured a job so miserable that nothing you could offer me to do for pay would ever conceivably be worse...not retail. (2018-2026)"
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:I wonder if his recruiter told him that the tax on enlistment bonuses is like 38%. loving lol. You just enlisted into a job where you have a 1 in 30 chance of killing yourself for not even 100k enlistment bonus, but a 62k enlistment bonus. That's not a 1 in 30 chance of someone else killing you on the battlefield, that's a 1 in 30 chance of you going back home, sitting on the edge of your bed, staring at the wall for 30 seconds before you reach into the drawer and pull out your 9mm and suck start it. That's after everyone here did all they could to tell you that this is a terrible job. And you're not even getting 2/3 of the bonus that the recruiter told you that you'd get for doing it. Jesus loving christ. I will never, ever join the military. Thank you, GiP.... Quote from page 61 to emphasize: posted:
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I thought enlistment bonus's were capped at 12 or 15k right now anyway. Its the reenlistment bonus where they start offering the big bucks, since by then you've passed training and are already starting to experience the true suffering and need a quick motivation boost to remain Even then... Current 2017 bonuses are based on a multiplier of base pay. A nuke E-5 up for reenlisment is making $2,500 a month. (If youre an E-4 at the time you get cashed out based on $2,200, but they bump you up to E-5 immediately, so the added additional monthly pay is often enough to offset the loss in your bonus amount) For submariners (the superior nukes), ETNs are at x12, ELTs at x11, MMNs at x9, and EMNs are at x6.5. For surface targets, its x7.5, x9.5, x6.5, x5.5 in the same order. I'm going to $2,500 base x 4 year reenlistment x 5.5 = $55,000. A good chunk, but still not a lot of money in life. Now if you're lucky enough to be a submarine ET and not hate your very existence, a mere 3 year reenlistment nets you 90k, which just about hits the limit for a bonus. Oh, and have fun with the taxes!
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I'll just throw in an echo to the would-be nuke to please listen to the guys here in the thread. You have people from all walks of life in the Navy, including the field you are looking at saying don't do itKetTarma posted:Well, we tried. I've only been the mall down here in Pensacola a handful of times and I swear to god I see at least a half dozen dudes and chicks rocking this look. Whats in those bags? Also why wear the dress uniform to the mall, are they not allowed to wear civvies or something?
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Jimmy4400nav posted:I've only been the mall down here in Pensacola a handful of times and I swear to god I see at least a half dozen dudes and chicks rocking this look. Whats in those bags? Also why wear the dress uniform to the mall, are they not allowed to wear civvies or something? When I was at A-school in Pensacola we had to wear dress blues off base for the first couple weeks before getting our liberty cards. It was dogshit, especially since there wasn’t a legit navy fed branch at NATTC so if you wanted to do any banking or get your poo poo in order after getting there you had to suit up like a dickhead.
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I'm legit blitzed and on shoreb duty as a not nuke and that was the worst thing ever.
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Laranzu posted:I'm legit blitzed and on shoreb duty as a not nuke and that was the worst thing ever. Yeah, if you're going to mumble incoherently into a cheap Plantronics headset, at least include a lyric sheet.
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Unrelated: I have been out for three and a half years. I have a degree and a career and not a care in the world now. My IRR time ended in 2016. At least once a week, I have a dream that I’m either on the ship, late for something, or that some paperwork got hosed up or some legislation passed that results in me having to reenlist and go back to the ship. Usually it ends up with me being bitter as hell during the dream because I thought I finished. I have to wake up before I’m convinced it isn’t real, even though there are ridiculous elements like traveling forward and aft via a water slide on the mess decks. Is this my dream life now? edit: poo poo, I've posted this before. It hasn't gotten better, I guess MancXVI fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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Laranzu posted:I'm legit blitzed and on shoreb duty as a not nuke and that was the worst thing ever. I did a google for 'navy nuclear power' and 'navy nuclear power sucks' found that
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M_Gargantua posted:diamonds harden under pressure into something beautiful and consistent. Until they go critical, then apparently jump off the 3rd story of the barracks or eat a bullet.
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We get a few nuke drops in the Bees. They all say they are glad they failed out
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MancXVI posted:Unrelated: I have been out for three and a half years. I have a degree and a career and not a care in the world now. My IRR time ended in 2016. It goes away, at least it did for me.
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MancXVI posted:Unrelated: I have been out for three and a half years. I have a degree and a career and not a care in the world now. My IRR time ended in 2016. If it makes you feel better, it's been 6 years since I've been to Iraq or Afghanistan and sometimes I wake up with a feeling of dread because I can't find my rifle. It's a lot like when you were in High School and you'd wake up thinking you'd forgot your homework or forgot to study for a test or something only to remember it's Saturday.
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MancXVI posted:Unrelated: I have been out for three and a half years. I have a degree and a career and not a care in the world now. My IRR time ended in 2016. I still have regular bitter dreams about it. Mine are usually me going "I'm not even supposed to be here, you guys do whatever the gently caress you want." I was land navy so most of my dreams are just hanging around our equipment and stuff with the overbearing feeling of everything is broken and they want me to train these people to fix it.
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I would like to note that my recruiter never mentioned anything about the enlistment bonus for nuke, and prior to me causing this thread to explode a bit the only enlistment bonus mentioned to me had been something $16k for AECF, though I may be mis-remembering that number. My recruiter hasn't actually done anything to push me into nuke, that can all be blamed on my brother and most of the folks in the Navy office at MEPS. In fact, she never really mentioned much of anything about specific jobs besides telling me that I'm pretty much qualified for anything with my ASVAB score. I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. (Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) I don't mean to seem flippant, or as if I'm dismissing all your advice out of hand, but I do have a habit of minimizing the concerns of others, and digging my heels in even in cases where I am pretty clearly wrong. I do thank you guys for your patience and/or mockery, and assure you I really don't plan on becoming a statistic anytime soon. Unrelatedly, I wouldn't say my brother exactly loves being an HT, though he did start liking it a bit more once he started getting trained in welding. It's not an assignment he exactly chose, he just ended up with it after pissing off a few bigwigs shortly after enlisting.
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LogicalFallacy posted:I would like to note that my recruiter never mentioned anything about the enlistment bonus for nuke, and prior to me causing this thread to explode a bit the only enlistment bonus mentioned to me had been something $16k for AECF, though I may be mis-remembering that number. My recruiter hasn't actually done anything to push me into nuke, that can all be blamed on my brother and most of the folks in the Navy office at MEPS. In fact, she never really mentioned much of anything about specific jobs besides telling me that I'm pretty much qualified for anything with my ASVAB score. I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. (Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) Punch your brother in the dick. He's your brother, he's earned it.
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maffew buildings posted:We get a few nuke drops in the Bees. They all say they are glad they failed out My bro couldn’t even pass the first math test. To the Bees with yah!
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LogicalFallacy posted:I would like to note that my recruiter never mentioned anything about the enlistment bonus for nuke, and prior to me causing this thread to explode a bit the only enlistment bonus mentioned to me had been something $16k for AECF, though I may be mis-remembering that number. My recruiter hasn't actually done anything to push me into nuke, that can all be blamed on my brother and most of the folks in the Navy office at MEPS. In fact, she never really mentioned much of anything about specific jobs besides telling me that I'm pretty much qualified for anything with my ASVAB score. I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. (Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) This explains everything. Your brother is bitter and wants your time in to suck worse than his.
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LogicalFallacy posted:I would like to note that my recruiter never mentioned anything about the enlistment bonus for nuke, and prior to me causing this thread to explode a bit the only enlistment bonus mentioned to me had been something $16k for AECF, though I may be mis-remembering that number. My recruiter hasn't actually done anything to push me into nuke, that can all be blamed on my brother and most of the folks in the Navy office at MEPS. In fact, she never really mentioned much of anything about specific jobs besides telling me that I'm pretty much qualified for anything with my ASVAB score. I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. (Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) Your recruiter obviously wants to gently caress you.
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LogicalFallacy posted:I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. (Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) Fyi that automatically makes you eligible to be a nuke submariner which is the worst type of nuke to be.
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LogicalFallacy posted:My recruiter hasn't actually done anything to push me into nuke, that can all be blamed on my brother and most of the folks in the Navy office at MEPS. The meps people care what billet you go into fyi. LogicalFallacy posted:In fact, she never really mentioned much of anything about specific jobs besides telling me that I'm pretty much qualified for anything with my ASVAB score. While this is true, whenever you mention your asvab you talk about it like it's a big deal. The asvab isn't a rigorous test, I got a 92 on it hungover as gently caress. It's there to deny entrance to the complete idiots. LogicalFallacy posted:I am leaning more and more towards remaining AECF, This is a good idea. LogicalFallacy posted:or possibly trying to get SECF on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. Wtf why? Subs are not a great platform lol. LogicalFallacy posted:(Notably, the fact that this form had been presented to me to sign, even though I am currently signed as AECF, confused the hell out of my recruiter.) Oh meps wants to fill a sub billet. Good thing they have an ignorant guy to sign anything they put in front of him! LogicalFallacy posted:I don't mean to seem flippant, or as if I'm dismissing all your advice out of hand, but I do have a habit of minimizing the concerns of others, and digging my heels in even in cases where I am pretty clearly wrong. That's a really stupid habit, now would be a good time to take others advice. You're 26 and enlisting, that means you've clearly made poor life decisions, or else you wouldn't be joining, especially at 26. Don't make another one. LogicalFallacy posted:I do thank you guys for your patience and/or mockery, and assure you I really don't plan on becoming a statistic anytime soon. You still don't get it. No one joins the program thinking they'll fail. They'll be different and better than the other guys! LogicalFallacy posted:Unrelatedly, I wouldn't say my brother exactly loves being an HT, Your brother chases poo poo through pipes, and to take him at any kind of word regarding the navy is hilarious, 3 years isn't poo poo in the navy, he's probably not even an e5 at this point, maybe not even an e4.
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LF, AECF is a good program if you're actually set on enlisting. I was AECF and got designated ET at boot camp, ETs have a great standard of living while at sea and about middle of the road standard of living when in port. I was an ET for 6 years and loved my job, but hated being in the Navy. If you're computer savvy or want to be, go IT and get as many certifications as you can while you're in. If you get your CCNA/CCNP and a TS clearance you can get really good jobs after 4-8 years active duty. If you're into DnD, anime, or furries I recommend STG.
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LogicalFallacy posted:and assure you I really don't plan on becoming a statistic anytime soon. Speaking as a statistic, I suppose it was my own fault for not explicitly stating that I didn't want to become one, I guess. gently caress, you're stupid.
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PneumonicBook posted:This is a good idea. I really enjoyed my time in an SECF rating. I enjoyed it so much I went STA-21 Now I'm a nuke officer. gently caress.
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Cerekk posted:I really enjoyed my time in an SECF rating. Lmao. That's unfortunate.
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Lou Takki posted:If you're into DnD, anime, or furries I recommend STG. There was plenty of that at ET school. Somebody here remembers catboy from 2003 Great Lakes.
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LogicalFallacy posted:on account of already having signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. LogicalFallacy posted:signed the "I'm cool with going on a sub" form. LogicalFallacy posted:signed the loving submarine volunteer form Welcome to submarines! Now if you fail out of Nuke school, you'll still become a submariner! Did you know that getting out of nuke is still possible if you gently caress up school? Did you know that getting out of submarines is about 100 times harder than that? Your brother is a loving rear end in a top hat. -A former submariner that watched the nukes suffer for many years.
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*on port and report duty during every liberty port so you never leave the boat except for a few hours to sleep at home port Sure am glad i went sub nuke fellas!
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Nick Soapdish posted:And when you do finally decide to end it, please do it on your own. Don't suicide by rent-a-cop or charge the Quarterdeck watch or something where you destroy someone else's life. It could be worse than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1
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Null Integer posted:Welcome to submarines! No argument on my brother being an rear end in a top hat, though.
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I wish you well I hate life a lot right now and I'm on a goddamn superyacht, you're going into an environment with far more stringent rules and regulations plus all the military bullshit on the top Hope it works out for you
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LogicalFallacy posted:Not necessarily, I'd think? I mean, my current contract is aecf, so I figure I would actually have to sign for nuke or secf for that form to become relevant? That's kind of why my recruiter was so confused by them presenting it to me at MEPS. it doesn't matter that your contract is AECF. You volunteered for submarines.
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Mr. Nice! posted:it doesn't matter that your contract is AECF. You volunteered for submarines. Excuse me I'll have you know we don't know anything and besides his recruiter didn't say anything about it and she would certainly tell him because she respects him and he certainly isn't a +1 to her quota (which doesn't exist because she told him).
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MancXVI posted:When I was at A-school in Pensacola we had to wear dress blues off base for the first couple weeks before getting our liberty cards. It was dogshit, especially since there wasn’t a legit navy fed branch at NATTC so if you wanted to do any banking or get your poo poo in order after getting there you had to suit up like a dickhead. Ouch, that sucks, when you were waiting for A-school did they make you guys do sweepers at the API building? When I was going through I usually saw some airmen and rescue swimmer aspirants sweeping/moving crap/standing random I.D checks in the hallway and felt bad so I'd sneak them candy bars when no one was looking. Going through primary right now is really weird among the SNFO's, everyone is fighting to try and get slots at VT-4 to fly in any of the big wings, but people keep getting jet drafted even though VT-86 has a five month wait time to class up, you'd think with that giant pig in the python they'd slow the flow there.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It could be worse than that: Tell us your Clayton Hartwig theories too!
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Ouch, that sucks, when you were waiting for A-school did they make you guys do sweepers at the API building? When I was going through I usually saw some airmen and rescue swimmer aspirants sweeping/moving crap/standing random I.D checks in the hallway and felt bad so I'd sneak them candy bars when no one was looking. Corry was weird. Couldn't leave base for two weeks. Had my wife ship my car filled with civy clothes, my bowling ball and my fishing gear. Really the idiots could have just gone to the NEX behind corry attached by an unworking turn style and bought civy clothes before leaving base. No reason at all to go all the way to mall in uniform.
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