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Well, Sigmar is still around, so why not the sisters, in tge shape DEVOTED OF SIGMAR?! As for NM, 8th ed Dark Imperium box had two armies and one full rear end rulebook. NM could do the same, considering that they will be releasing the gangs separately on day one. I'm buying the box and I don't know why. At least I'm getting a good price.
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JcDent posted:As for NM, 8th ed Dark Imperium box had two armies and one full rear end rulebook. NM could do the same, considering that they will be releasing the gangs separately on day one. I wonder why it doesn't? JcDent posted:I'm buying the box and I don't know why. At least I'm getting a good price. Oh.
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JcDent posted:Well, Sigmar is still around, so why not the sisters, in tge shape DEVOTED OF SIGMAR?! Dark Imperium is also $160 and no board/terrain.
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MrFlibble posted:I wonder why it doesn't? I absolutely wouldn't be buying the box if not for multiple things that just got together to make it cheap for me. I guess if it didn't have some terrain bits I could use for something else, I might change my mind. Meanwhile, I hope the board will work with my Burning of Prospero board. Shadin posted:Dark Imperium is also $160 and no board/terrain. Nobody trucked out the "needs $200 of terrain to play" argument for that one, though.
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Warhammer TV has a short with Andy Hoare (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDdeAeLMwEs) and he says that the reason for the lack of terrain in the new box is to make the price accessible to new players, to have a "game in a box" (you'd have to have like $1000 in Sector Mechanicus kits to make a decent NM table), and so people didn't have a paint a shitload of terrain before they could play. Take that as you will. As an aside, "Gang War" is going to cost $30. It's 64 pages. I am not happy with that. berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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JcDent posted:Nobody trucked out the "needs $200 of terrain to play" argument for that one, though. That's because it's a different kind of game entirely. I think the problem is that people are comparing old Necromunda to new. New Necromunda is a board game in a box, and you can get an expansion book to turn it into a campaign based full on 3D terrain miniatures game. $125 for two armies, the board, the terrain it does come with, dice/templates/stuff is a decent deal and in line with other single box GW games.
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Nov 7, 2017 21:49
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you still need terrain to property play 40k tho 
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you still need terrain to property play 40k tho No idea what the point is...
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berzerkmonkey posted:People will sell the components separately on Ebay, just like with every other GW boxed game in existence, so just pick up the rulebook there for $20 and be done with it. Honestly this is what I would do, but geographic and currency problems make it an expensive pain in the rear end.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you still need terrain to property play 40k tho You do, and that's a major limiter for the game since it means most people need access to an FLGS to play it. Necromunda is meant to be playable out of the box and self-contained. Like Shadespire. Which I love because I can carry it around with me and play a game with people very easily.
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Ya'll don't use stuff lying around your house to make terrain??
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Nebalebadingdong posted:Ya'll don't use stuff lying around your house to make terrain?? kids these days have no imagination
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Nebalebadingdong posted:Ya'll don't use stuff lying around your house to make terrain?? If you don't spend $200 on official terrain you're not really playing the game, you're just faking it.
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You guys are some bitter boys. Jesus.
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hey when does the big robot game come out again
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Probably never, FW is dragging their feet on several projects, like a new Imperial Armour book that has been promised a year or two ago and the HH rulebook, which is going to be 7e+.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you still need terrain to property play 40k tho surprise, in 8th ed terrain is almost useless outside of giant line of sight blocking pieces
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:hey when does the big robot game come out again Default FW answer for Everything is next year.
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S.J. posted:surprise, in 8th ed terrain is almost useless outside of giant line of sight blocking pieces Can confirm. "How do you charge an enemy that is on the second floor of a building" was a question that went unanswered for like three months.
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Nov 8, 2017 09:22
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I assume you'd use the stairs.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I assume you'd use the stairs. They had charts, man.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:hey when does the big robot game come out again https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/adeptus-titanicus-walking-into-stores-this-year.html Could be this year still, but hard to say. The Horus Heresy rulebook launch was delayed due to QC concerns but who knows if that affects SGs.
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Ashtrays and random boxes "count-as terrain X" have been a staple on our warhammer fantasy games for years. When in need, you just use whatever you can.
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Shadin posted:https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/adeptus-titanicus-walking-into-stores-this-year.html It might be next year. 
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Shadin posted:https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/adeptus-titanicus-walking-into-stores-this-year.html  Good lord, that's a scale jump.
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Nov 8, 2017 15:04
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Rebuy your army is a GW thing to do.
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Angry Lobster posted:Ashtrays and random boxes "count-as terrain X" have been a staple on our warhammer fantasy games for years. When in need, you just use whatever you can. Let us not forget the time-honored 'stack of different books for a tiered hill' and 'beer can silo/tower'
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JcDent posted:Rebuy your army is a GW thing to do. How is relaunching an old board game “rebuying an army”?
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Well, you can't rightly use your 6mm units next to the towering 8mm giants? That is, if the game is ever released... and gets a non-titan supplement...
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JcDent posted:Rebuy your army is a GW thing to do.
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Nov 8, 2017 15:24
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God forbid a company not care about some one time purchases made 20 years ago.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:God forbid a company not care about some one time purchases made 20 years ago. Not to mention it's a board game. These components can't be used in 40k, no more than you can use Talisman or Fury of Dracula miniatures and put them into Age of Sigmar.
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When you're relaunching a game with bigger miniatures for no reason (6mm forumware stuff already looks amazing, and GHQ manages to do some amazing stuff, cheating 1/285 bastards that they are), it seems like they do it on purpose to pee into your cereal. Your nostalgia will make you want to play the game, and loving your army up will make you rebuy it. Heck, that's what's happening with Bigmarines as far as I'm concerned. Just releasing bigger, more proportional Marines won't guarantee that you'll replace your army. And if you rebalance Marines to have 2W and be e expensive, that will mean that Marine players will need even less miniatures. But when you introduce numarines who are bigger and better and can't ride in the old transports (except for some superheavies), you can have Marines return to "baby's first army" status (especially when your units are all monoweapon and your commanders have zero options) with big miniatures and tought statlines, as well as signalling that old Marines will get no support and you need to build your army anew. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I doubt we'll ever see a new smollmarine release, ever.
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JcDent posted:When you're relaunching a game with bigger miniatures for no reason (6mm forumware stuff already looks amazing, and GHQ manages to do some amazing stuff, cheating 1/285 bastards that they are), it seems like they do it on purpose to pee into your cereal. Your nostalgia will make you want to play the game, and loving your army up will make you rebuy it. You realize: 1. Adeptus Titanicus came out in 1988. Let that sink in, you're arguing they should make the relaunch of a game 100% compatible with an entirely different version of it (New AT is not Epic), that launched when the Berlin wall was still standing. 2. Primaris/Truescale changes don't mean you have to rebuy your SM army. Nor will it ever. I'm glad they update sculpts, it's not my dream to still be playing with Space Marines from 1993 (though, I would like to point out, you absolutely can do. Your entire army could be made from 1993 metal sculpts and be valid).
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Shadin posted:Not to mention it's a board game. These components can't be used in 40k, no more than you can use Talisman or Fury of Dracula miniatures and put them into Age of Sigmar. Part of the nostalgic enthusiasm that people always have for these games is the idea of digging around in your basement, finding the box that has all your old Epic/Necromunda/Mordheim/BFG/GorkaMorka minis in it, dusting it off, reminiscing about the games you used to play with friends you used to have, and fervently hoping to recapture that magic - without having to sink hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars into buying, assembling, and painting another freaking army. An army, I might add, that you'll pack away in a box in your basement in another 6 months to a year when GW/FW moves on and completely stops supporting the game that so tickled your nostalgia. How often do we think we'll be seeing regular Blood Bowl releases now that Newcromunda is out?
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You're seriously pissy over a change of 2mm over 20 years? Are you loving serious?
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Ilor posted:No, it's not just a board game. It's re-release of an existing miniatures game, one for which GW has already put out (and people have already purchased) huge quantities of stuff. See above. It's a new version of a game that came out in 1988. I'm sorry that companies make new products based on their existing IPs. Some people don't want just flat reissues of games from the 80s and 90s, I prefer that they actually update them. If they just re-launched old Necromunda, it wouldn't be half as interesting, because we've been playing that game for almost 25 years.
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At 6mm scale, that 2mm is a 33% change. Also, 6mm is a very common scale for terrain makers. 8mm? Not so much.
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Ilor posted:At 6mm scale, that 2mm is a 33% change. Also, 6mm is a very common scale for terrain makers. 8mm? Not so much. Just step back for just a second and look at how much it's worth getting mad over this, seriously. Have just a touch of self awareness about it please. 2mm. 20 years. Jesus.
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It's really stupidly hard to collect an Epic army, and this is a kind of huge gently caress you to players who have done more to keep it alive than GW over 20 years. Like, suppose the next MtG expansion used larger cards.
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