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If Worf is how he is due to the Russian influence of the Rozhenkos, what would he have been like if his human parents came from other nations? Who is Australian Worf? Korean Worf? Israeli Worf? Canadian Worf?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Canadian Worf? Qaple'
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Nov 7, 2017 00:51
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Worf, from the Hoose of Mogh
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Nov 7, 2017 00:57
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Poutine is best served live.
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Nov 7, 2017 01:04
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He would have maimed a boy in a hockey game at the age of 12 instead of soccer. He'd probably also have gotten that Happy Gilmore record of "only person to take off his skate and try to stab someone with it."
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Nov 7, 2017 01:19
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Time's Arrow may be dumb but it's a lot of fun, too. Descent isn't a strong story, but it wraps up more than one old plot thread and that makes it worth watching, in my opinion. Gambit is definitely the weakest two-parter. It just doesn't do anything. I can quote lines from the best TNG episodes and I can't even remember what the point of Gambit was, besides putting the captain in a fish out of water story.
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Nov 7, 2017 01:40
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FuturePastNow posted:Time's Arrow may be dumb but it's a lot of fun, too. Descent isn't a strong story, but it wraps up more than one old plot thread and that makes it worth watching, in my opinion. In retrospect "Gambit" was probably an early example of P-Stew trying to get Picard some of that bare-chested manly action hero thing going that he thought people wanted more of.
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Nov 7, 2017 01:55
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Huh so it never explicitly said that guy was Worf's dad, even if it did strongly imply it. So all my predictions were still right even if I couldn't figure out why the Romulans were allowing it. I never got that impression. I guess I just took the episode at face value when the dude said "I used to hang out with you and your dad when you were little, your dad died at Khitomer" and stopped looking for hints.
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Nov 7, 2017 02:34
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McNally posted:I never got that impression. I guess I just took the episode at face value when the dude said "I used to hang out with you and your dad when you were little, your dad died at Khitomer" and stopped looking for hints. The fact that the informant was so sure Mogh was alive he'd risk his own life on it, the way nobody ever calls the leader Klingon by any name hinted strongly, but the scene where Worf and tells the leader what he'd do if he found his father here, and the leader tells Worf what he wished his son would do if he came, while giving each other meaningful looks, confirmed it at least in my mind.
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Nov 7, 2017 03:26
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I never made that connection but that makes a lot of sense
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Nov 7, 2017 03:28
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sub rosa is hilarious
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Nov 7, 2017 03:29
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I think it's a shame that after "Birthright" and Worf letting a Romulan die rather than giving him a blood transfusion, we never had him having to work with the Romulans as allies on DS9.
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Nov 7, 2017 03:41
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McNally posted:I never got that impression. I guess I just took the episode at face value when the dude said "I used to hang out with you and your dad when you were little, your dad died at Khitomer" and stopped looking for hints. You're both right. The episode was written to be Mogh, but then they put in dialogue where he was like "yo your dad is dead dog" that you were supposed to take at face value. The idea was that if it HAD been Mogh, Worf never would have left them.
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Nov 7, 2017 03:52
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Lmao the Grand Nagus seems to have lost his mind.
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Nov 7, 2017 04:08
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Angry Salami posted:I think it's a shame that after "Birthright" and Worf letting a Romulan die rather than giving him a blood transfusion, we never had him having to work with the Romulans as allies on DS9. In  Nemesis he admits that the romulans fought honorably.
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Nov 7, 2017 04:28
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The Romulans are without honor, though.
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Nov 7, 2017 04:31
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WampaLord posted:He'd probably also have gotten that Happy Gilmore record of "only person to take off his skate and try to stab someone with it." A bat'leth which looks like the skate blade? Yes. Let this be so. And his tunic is always baggy and only tucked in on one side. "That hoser must have Romulan blood, eh!"
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Nov 7, 2017 04:37
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McSpanky posted:In retrospect "Gambit" was probably an early example of P-Stew trying to get Picard some of that bare-chested manly action hero thing going that he thought people wanted more of. I don't think Stewart pushed for action because he thought it was most saleable, I think he did it because he wanted a break from being the calm tea-drinker.
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Nov 7, 2017 05:07
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I like Gambit Part I because I actually do enjoy watching Stewart be an action hero, but Part II is so incredibly weak that I can't even tell you how it's resolved without looking it up. Had TNG ended without any films, I really think Stewart could have taken a page from Harrison Ford and done movies like Air Force One and The Fugitive. He was older than your average action hero, but he had abundant charisma and 90's action flicks would have suited him well. This is where someone points out that all the TNG films are action flicks, but my point stands.
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Nov 7, 2017 05:32
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think Stewart pushed for action because he thought it was most saleable, I think he did it because he wanted a break from being the calm tea-drinker.
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Nov 7, 2017 05:42
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FuturePastNow posted:Descent isn't a strong story, but it wraps up more than one old plot thread and that makes it worth watching, in my opinion. Oh, it's certainly worth watching, but I feel that way about all of them. "Descent" has a lot of the hallmarks of a series that's gone on too long, with a full-on "what if A met B" storyline that doesn't add anything to those characters' previous (excellent) episodes. It's also the most grimdark TNG got on TV and it just doesn't fit. Season 7 does pick up from there, though.
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Nov 7, 2017 06:08
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Gambit was so boring that even though I watched all of TNG a decade ago, that episode was just a blank, finding it this year on my rewatch was like watching a whole new episode because I couldn't remember any of it. It made no sense why the Enterprise command crew were suddenly spec ops commandos, Picard's infiltration of the 80s hair metal gang was a paint-by-numbers plot, and the ancient artifact ended up being the most useless weapon ever; it was so dumb it was more like something Zaphod Beeblebrox would pick up in a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy sequel and spend the whole book trying to find a use for.
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Nov 7, 2017 07:10
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:If Worf is how he is due to the Russian influence of the Rozhenkos, what would he have been like if his human parents came from other nations? Who is Australian Worf? Korean Worf? Israeli Worf? He wouldn't want to drink prune juice, because it isn't sweet enough.
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Nov 7, 2017 09:15
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"Wasabi... a warrior's condiment."
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Nov 7, 2017 09:16
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McSpanky posted:"Wasabi... a warrior's condiment." Bortus did it first.
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Nov 7, 2017 09:33
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Korean Worf loves traditional Klingon cuisine like Q'mcHi.
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Nov 7, 2017 14:19
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People who listen to The Greatest Generation: can I just jump in with DS9 or do I need to start from the beginning to get a bunch of the in-jokes? Thanks. 
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Nov 7, 2017 15:02
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Beachcomber posted:People who listen to The Greatest Generation: can I just jump in with DS9 or do I need to start from the beginning to get a bunch of the in-jokes? They've definitely toned down the number of in-jokes... but there are still some. I don't think it would necessarily make it unlistenable, though.
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Nov 7, 2017 15:05
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I'd listen to at least "The Survivors" episode 50 of TNG to understand a pretty important recurring character.
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Nov 7, 2017 15:05
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Spent a whole evening listening to orchestras do Star Trek themes on youtube, as one does. Man, the Voyager theme is just so good and memorable. TNG for nostalgia still gets me, but VOY's really, really sets you up for disappointment with the average VOY episode.
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Nov 7, 2017 15:56
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why are bridge scenes in tng so noisy? Theres a shittonne more film grain, atleast on the Netflix version.
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Nov 7, 2017 16:10
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I'm already feeling a bit melancholy today and I'm going balls deep into "The Visitor" in a minute. Wish me luck.
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Nov 7, 2017 18:47
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underage at the vape shop posted:why are bridge scenes in tng so noisy? Theres a shittonne more film grain, atleast on the Netflix version. Probably a combination of filmstock used and lighting, especially in the earlier seasons. They probably didn't worry too much about it back then because it wouldn't be nearly as noticeable on the air.
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Nov 7, 2017 19:06
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underage at the vape shop posted:why are bridge scenes in tng so noisy? Theres a shittonne more film grain, atleast on the Netflix version. Where are you in the series? The first two seasons were extremely underlit in a more "cinematic" style before switching to the flat lighting that would remain for the rest of 90s Trek. The remaster corrected the early episodes to be consistent with the later ones, but the now the high film speed shows.
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Nov 8, 2017 01:08
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Probably a combination of filmstock used and lighting, especially in the earlier seasons. It kinda blows me away that in 20 or so years we have gone from TV shows being cheap cheap cheap to the Netflix method of "Everything looks like a full-scale Hollywood production."
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Nov 8, 2017 01:14
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dont even fink about it posted:It kinda blows me away that in 20 or so years we have gone from TV shows being cheap cheap cheap to the Netflix method of "Everything looks like a full-scale Hollywood production."
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Nov 8, 2017 01:31
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Good is relative. Scrubs was shot on location with naturalistic lighting but a more traditional comedy camera while Brooklyn 99 is lit like a sitcom but takes a lot of camera cues from faux documentaries. Is one better? Shaky documentary cam was in vogue, now it's long tracking shots. Which is better? Deep Space 9 was a technical revolution in shooting trek. Did anyone notice or care?
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Nov 8, 2017 01:46
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dont even fink about it posted:It kinda blows me away that in 20 or so years we have gone from TV shows being cheap cheap cheap to the Netflix method of "Everything looks like a full-scale Hollywood production." TNG was not a cheap show to produce. Over a million dollars an episode (I want to say $1.3M?) in 1987 dollars. I know there's ridiculously expensive shows today that make that look small, but after inflation even by today's standards TNG was not cheap.
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Nov 8, 2017 01:56
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The real big difference is probably in time. TNG had to crank out 26 episodes a year every year: each shooting day is precious because you're not just worried about going over budget if you take too long to shoot an episode, you're worried about actually getting the show in the can in time to make your airdates. In that kind of environment, you're going to favor simple lighting and composition that allows you to setup quickly and get the shot done as fast as possible so you can move on to the next scene. If you're only doing thirteen episodes a season, and you're no longer shackled to the conventional over-the-air season schedule so you can have over a year between season starts, you can spend a lot more time (and money!  ) setting up complicated lighting and doing multiple takes to get the performances dialed in just so.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I'd listen to at least "The Survivors" episode 50 of TNG to understand a pretty important recurring character. Not to sound ungrateful, but I have no idea what I was supposed to get out of that. 
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