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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
The one true takeaway from Virginia is actually run for something motherfuckers jesus christ

https://twitter.com/reedgshaw/statu...r%3D4495%23pti1

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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Democrazy posted:

Plus running straight up cowards tend not to be a good way to get good policy done, but maybe he'll move to the left like McAullife

the redeeming attribute of cowards is that they can be controlled by scaring them

and "a socialist won a blood-red house seat with zero help whatsoever from any dems" is the kind of thing that can be used to put the fear of God into a certain class of centrist ghoul

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

C. Everett Koop posted:

As much as I'd like to be happy over the Virginia results, and the downticket results are something to be happy about, I'm fairly certain that the Dems are going to view the Northam win as validation of them continuing to hump the dead horse of centrism and will learn not a goddamn thing, leading to a complete assbeating in 2018.

That and, you know, the mirror-more-racist tweet. Truth in fiction.
The downticket results and the grassroots are what's going to boot racist shitbirds like JeffersonClay out on their loving rear end where they belong.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

JeffersonClay posted:

It won't just be mine.

God willing, it will be.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Mustached Demon posted:

Northams win was the result of dudes and dudettes working their asses off getting people to vote. He was just along for the ride.

and he didn't deserve any of that support. in a better world he wouldn't have been on the ticket at all

here's another new dem face taking a republican seat, david reid: https://www.reidfordelegate.com/my-priorities

he's pretty bland. his jobs plank is really a bunch of pandering to professionals and such, as is the transportation part of his page. nothing too offensive, but nothing really to get excited about either with him

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

JeffersonClay posted:

Obama ran as a post-partisan consensus candidate and promised to work with republicans, and he won a landslide victory. Twice.

Like I'm not sure what you're trying to say here referencing Hotelling's law but that economic principle suggests both democrats and republicans would benefit by running toward the center.


It won't just be mine.

Not from the perspective of legislature or governorships. He lost there. Bigly.

If all you care about is the Presidency then . . . maybe.

But a Presidency absent coattails is useless.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Mustached Demon posted:

Northams win was the result of dudes and dudettes working their asses off getting people to vote. He was just along for the ride.

This is true for every election ever held. Some people have asserted that having a mushy moderate on the top of the ticket will preclude the kind of enthusiasm from the democratic base we just saw in Virginia. They appear to be wrong.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/statu...%3D4495%23pti32

*jeffersonclay strokes his bond villain kitty and sips a pumpkin spice latte*

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

JeffersonClay posted:

This is true for every election ever held. Some people have asserted that having a mushy moderate on the top of the ticket will preclude the kind of enthusiasm from the democratic base we just saw in Virginia. They appear to be wrong.

Really, I guess it shows just how bad Hillary was to lose considering any other idiot can apparently beat Republicans with ease.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
edit: wrong thread.

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

WampaLord posted:

Really, I guess it shows just how bad Hillary was to lose considering any other idiot can apparently beat Republicans with ease.

Or maybe...


Hillary died for our sins.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


donte tanner is neck and neck with his opponent and 87% of the precincts have reported results for his race, so who knows if he'll be replacing an incumbent.

here's his issues page though: https://www.dontetanner.com/issues/

as you can see, it's unusually sparse. he really doesn't have much to say on any of his issues, and what he does say is... underwhelming to say the least. an example is his section on transportation:

quote:

Transportation and Traffic

Donte spends hours, every day, stuck in the same traffic as you. Donte understands that time spent sitting in traffic is time we could be spending with our family, getting our work done, or even just relaxing!

Donte will fight for common sense solutions for reducing traffic to ensure we spend more time with our families and less time on the road.

he's also for "fiscal responsiblity", which to me is codeword for austerity, but who knows

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

WampaLord posted:

Really, I guess it shows just how bad Hillary was to lose considering any other idiot can apparently beat Republicans with ease.

Yes, perhaps Hillary was just a bad candidate who got some bad breaks at the end of the campaign and there are no fundamental problems with the center of the democratic party. I agree.

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/928078275582349312

Dems better not think they'll be able to succeed by campaigning in opposition to Trump. :tizzy:

JeffersonClay fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Nov 8, 2017

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Condiv posted:

donte tanner is neck and neck with his opponent and 87% of the precincts have reported results for his race, so who knows if he'll be replacing an incumbent.

here's his issues page though: https://www.dontetanner.com/issues/

as you can see, it's unusually sparse. he really doesn't have much to say on any of his issues, and what he does say is... underwhelming to say the least. an example is his section on transportation:


he's also for "fiscal responsiblity", which to me is codeword for austerity, but who knows

Rising tide carries all ships, even those that deserve to sink.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
It's fascinating how JeffersonClay can take any arbitrary sequence of events and interpret them as a victory for, and validation of, centrist politics. I could describe the fission of uranium-235 to him and within three sentences he'd bring up James Comey. He's like an early build of AlphaGo except trained on lovely blogs and forum posts, running on someone's broke-dick circa 2012 Bitcoin farm.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


lee carter is next, having replaced the house whip without the support of the democrats: http://www.carterforvirginia.com/issues/

his issues page is not terribly long, but he promises a lot. they include expanding rail capacity to reduce traffic, criminal justice reform (very good), trying to cut down on corporate influence in virginia politics, protecting labor and expanding unions and protecting women's reproductive rights. the issues he stands out on compared to the others are expanding rail and criminal justice reform

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

JeffersonClay posted:

Yes, perhaps Hillary was just a bad candidate who got some bad breaks at the end of the campaign and there are no fundamental problems with the center of the democratic party. I agree.

Dems better not think they'll be able to succeed by campaigning in opposition to Trump. :tizzy:

You are a terrible person who has defended literal slavery and sweatshops.

Lord it up tonight you smug rear end in a top hat, it doesn't make you any better of a person.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Kilroy posted:

It's fascinating how JeffersonClay can take any arbitrary sequence of events and interpret them as a victory for, and validation of, centrist politics. I could describe the fission of uranium-235 to him and within three sentences he'd bring up James Comey. He's like an early build of AlphaGo except trained on lovely blogs and forum posts, running on someone's broke-dick circa 2012 Bitcoin farm.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/on-safari-in-trumps-america/543288/

Democrazy
Oct 16, 2008

If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.
Parsing national politics from a single state-level election is like parsinf college football from Tuesday night MACtion, which is also on TV right now

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Democrazy posted:

Parsing national politics from a single state-level election is like parsinf college football from Tuesday night MACtion, which is also on TV right now

I will loving fight anyone who slanders MACtion in this or any thread.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Kilroy posted:

It's fascinating how JeffersonClay can take any arbitrary sequence of events and interpret them as a victory for, and validation of, centrist politics.

It's fascinating how I can take a moderate democrat winning a contentious election in a swing state and interpret it as a victory for a moderate democrat?

Democrazy
Oct 16, 2008

If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

C. Everett Koop posted:

I will loving fight anyone who slanders MACtion in this or any thread.

What do you think I'm watching right now? The blowout elections or a sweet shootout in Buffalo?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


there's lots more dems who have picked up seats in virginia, but it's really late so i can't look through their stuff tonight. but in any case, you'll notice that despite some of the dems being worrysome in some aspects, or uninspiring, none of them were terrible like northam has been. there are a huge number of reasons to celebrate tonight based off the dem wins in virginia, and northam should be on the bottom of that list (or not even on that list at all considering what a shithead he's been). so celebrate, but remember that the lesser evil northam is still evil and poo poo, and should be treated as such until he stops being a shitbird and embracing racism and liking gwb and advocating for republican style tough on crime laws.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Meme Emulator posted:

Whats the story behind an incumbent only getting 2.9% of the votes

Virginia House Of Delegates 27 95.5% reporting
VOTES PCT
Barnett (D) 455,695 97.1%
Robinson (R)* 13,815 2.9%

I figured it out on my own. It was a typo, lol

Randbrick
Sep 28, 2002

Condiv posted:

there's lots more dems who have picked up seats in virginia, but it's really late so i can't look through their stuff tonight. but in any case, you'll notice that despite some of the dems being worrysome in some aspects, or uninspiring, none of them were terrible like northam has been. there are a huge number of reasons to celebrate tonight based off the dem wins in virginia, and northam should be on the bottom of that list (or not even on that list at all considering what a shithead he's been). so celebrate, but remember that the lesser evil northam is still evil and poo poo, and should be treated as such until he stops being a shitbird and embracing racism and liking gwb and advocating for republican style tough on crime laws.
good god, find a drug and take it

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Randbrick posted:

good god, find a drug and take it
im pretty sure doing that is why the rural areas of virginia are so sparsely populated?

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Lightning Knight posted:

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/statu...%3D4495%23pti32

*jeffersonclay strokes his bond villain kitty and sips a pumpkin spice latte*

The Panera strategy starts now.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/928076344931516417

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Randbrick posted:

good god, find a drug and take it

sorry, but northam's poo poo, and he's a racist shitbird. it's a shame that he's even a democrat at all and someone else should've been on the ticket for gov

there are plenty of reasons to celebrate tonight, but he's really not one

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

so does he not realize that a bunch of extremely left people who are buddies with sanders picked up seats in the legislature

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Peter Daou is intensely dumb, so why is Condiv trying so hard to prove him right?

Democrazy
Oct 16, 2008

If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

Endorph posted:

so does he not realize that a bunch of extremely left people who are buddies with sanders picked up seats in the legislature

Karl Marx could've won tonight and Daou would find a way to use it against the party's left.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

JeffersonClay posted:

Peter Daou is intensely dumb

Peter Daou agrees with you on literally everything, though.

Hmmmmm.......

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


as opposed to northam, this...

https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/928077884278956033

https://twitter.com/kmcdonovgh/status/928083714541793281

quote:

Krasner was the outsider candidate, offering voters zero experience as a prosecutor. As a defense attorney, he sued the Philadelphia Police Department dozens of times and represented Occupy and Black Lives Matter activists pro bono. And while his primary opponents were reformers, too, only he had spent decades litigating against the office all were vying to lead. Put simply: “I’ve spent a career becoming completely unelectable,” as Krasner joked at a recent debate.

...is a very good reason to celebrate tonight

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

WampaLord posted:

Peter Daou agrees with you on literally everything, though.

Hmmmmm.......

My money is on JeffersonClay just actually being Peter Daou and trying to save his SA parachute account.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/Burgwinkle/status/928068025881890817

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Endorph posted:

so does he not realize

Lemme stop you there because the list of things Peter loving daou realizes is extremely short

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

WampaLord posted:

Peter Daou agrees with you on literally everything, though.

Hmmmmm.......
JeffersonClay thinks of himself as a super-pragmatic leftist who has coldly calculated the maximum extent to which our government can be pushed to the left and is ruthlessly pursuing that path (or rather posting about it).

What he can't know, what he'll never grasp, is that he's actually slightly to the right of Chuck Schumer, and also that he's really, really dumb.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Democrazy posted:

What do you think I'm watching right now? The blowout elections or a sweet shootout in Buffalo?

Better man than I am, I've been on Akron/MOH hoping that would have been the better game.

To not go completely off-topic, I assume there's another general assembly election in 2019, so the hopes of undoing Virginia's gerrymandering aren't won yet?

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/politico/status/928089728938889216

:lol:

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