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The_Doctor posted:Quick query for book readers, what’s the best Who book that uses time travel as a central concept (outside of turning up/departing)? The 4th Doctor Novel "The Festival of Death" is probably the best ever. People have been clamoring BF to do an adaptation ever since they started the novel adaptations.
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I tried to read The Dying Days because it was intriguing as the end of the VNA and the first 8th Doctor book. But it was just garbage. Bernice Summerfield features heavily, and at the start of the book is very sad until ol' Eight shows up. There was a bit where she and the Doctor are in an Internet cafe or something like it and they are trying to get some information from the attendant. The Doctor basically commands Bernice to do a sexy nerd girl routine, going "all the way" if need be. And I guess Bernice does this no questions asked cause she has the hots for Eight (can't really fault here there). Anyways that's when I put the book down in disgust. Apparently the book implies Eight and Bernice have sex at the end. I think the Ice Warriors show up at some point, but hadn't by the time I gave up on it.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:01
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I was never sure what to make of the novels (mainly the BBC Books ones for me - I've never really read much of the New Adventures) consciously trying to be more adult than the show. The first one I read was War of the Daleks which had a lot more violence than the programme would ordinarily have, but I was maybe 10 or 11 so I thought it was being more mature than it probably was. But then I read Revolution Man and all the sex and drugs in it felt gratuitous. I was probably too young for them at the time, but because I wasn't really well-up on Big Finish at the time (I had a few, but the only place I could get them was the old BBC shop in Belfast, which I seldom ever visited because it was a little out of the way at the time) they were the only game in town as far as new Who that I was aware of went.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:23
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The books, especially the Virgin New Adventures, are endlessly fascinating to me, probably because I haven't really read any of them. The glamour of continuing the 7th Doctor's stories after the show's cancellation, the writers being able to do strange things that wouldn't have worked on air, exploring themes of the Doctor they thought were lost. It's all really interesting and I'm afraid their mystery would be completely shattered if I actually dug into them! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEyi2aqGxck These videos have been really neat to watch. poparena (who I think is a goon?) goes into a lot of depth about the VNA in a humorous way.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:50
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It's been a while since I read The Time Travellers, but I remember it being very good. It's a First Doctor PDA where the Doctor, Ian and Barbara arrive in future London where WOTAN and the War Machines have taken over, since the Doctor has not yet travelled to 1960s London to defeat WOTAN, and time travel experiments are conducted and different versions of characters from multiple timelines appear and all sorts of cool time stuff happen.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:51
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Forktoss posted:It's been a while since I read The Time Travellers, but I remember it being very good. It's a First Doctor PDA where the Doctor, Ian and Barbara arrive in future London where WOTAN and the War Machines have taken over, since the Doctor has not yet travelled to 1960s London to defeat WOTAN, and time travel experiments are conducted and different versions of characters from multiple timelines appear and all sorts of cool time stuff happen. I don't remember if it was explicitly WOTAN; as I recall, it was set in an alternate future where Britain has become an internationally marginalised police state at war with the South Africans, who have become super-advanced by trading with the Cybermen in Antarctica. The main thing I remember about it was being disappointed that there's not actually a whole lot of First Doctor in it; it's written like the early serials where the Doctor is very mysterious and the companions are the audience viewpoint characters; the main character in The Time Travellers is really Ian.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:12
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apophenium posted:The books, especially the Virgin New Adventures, are endlessly fascinating to me, probably because I haven't really read any of them. The glamour of continuing the 7th Doctor's stories after the show's cancellation, the writers being able to do strange things that wouldn't have worked on air, exploring themes of the Doctor they thought were lost. It's all really interesting and I'm afraid their mystery would be completely shattered if I actually dug into them! You're right! Most of them are terrible. A few are all right, for being glorified fanfiction. One or two manage to get past being glorified fanfiction. But there's a very good reason that most of the writers haven't ever done anything else.
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Nov 5, 2017 19:36
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Trin Tragula posted:You're right! Most of them are terrible. A few are all right, for being glorified fanfiction. One or two manage to get past being glorified fanfiction. But there's a very good reason that most of the writers haven't ever done anything else. That's a bit harsh, seeing as how most of the writers either wrote for the original series, or went on to write for the new series (and create it) as well as Big Finish. Seriously, look down the author's list--most of these guys are household names among Who fans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures What you had with these books were: -Traditional stories -Stories that were very experimental -Stories that would be considered modern for the new series, but were experimental at the time -Stories by authors who just didn't get it -Stories that tried to advance the overall narrative and universe on the assumption that the show was never coming back The more avant garde stories, or ones by authors who didn't really understand what Who was about and tried to be too adult for the sake of it fall flat. When they tried to expand and advance the world of Doctor Who, that is looked upon as a failure now, because those plot strands are non-canon dead ends. I do recall at the time just wishing they'd go ahead and regenerate the Doctor and move on. In hindsight of course, that would have been horrible. But there are some gems in there, which is why they got adapted for the new series and Big Finish.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:44
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adhuin posted:First 4 seasons of 4th doctors adventures for 3 £$€ per episode. My backlog... 
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Nov 5, 2017 21:51
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Dudley Simpson died 
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Nov 5, 2017 22:33
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Plavski posted:Dudley Simpson died Composer of one of the greatest tv themes of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y43FCDxu0QI
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Nov 6, 2017 00:21
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It's sad, but he was also 95 and we'd all be lucky to get such a long innings.Astroman posted:Composer of one of the greatest tv themes of all time: God I always forget how loving good this theme is.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:27
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lmao https://twitter.com/AndyLawrence5/status/925733565765218305 Private Eye posted:As Doctor Who fans await regeneration of their hero into a heroine under an all-new production team, similarly epochal changes have been afoot at the programme's official periodical, Doctor Who Magazine, published by comics specialist Panini on licence from BBC Worldwide.
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Nov 6, 2017 04:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1SZs4xudf8
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Nov 6, 2017 08:39
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Sometimes Nick Briggs annoys me. Sometimes he absolutely loving owns though.
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Nov 6, 2017 09:22
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Jerusalem posted:Sometimes Nick Briggs annoys me. Sometimes he absolutely loving owns though. That's Nicholas Pegg, unfortunately. Briggs wouldn't be caught using the word "oval office" in any context -- this is the man who edited the word "shagging" out of a product blurb once. (And the Tom Spilsbury thing is apparently not true.)
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Nov 6, 2017 09:27
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Huh, I guess my mind just auto-completed to Briggs when I saw "Dalek-Operator"
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Nov 6, 2017 09:56
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Pegg is an actor and director for BF, he also wrote The Spectre of Laynon Moor.
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Nov 6, 2017 13:41
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ALL DAL-EKS ARE NAMED NICK, IT IS EASIER THAT WAY.
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Nov 6, 2017 13:57
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Nice to see this is doing the rounds again: https://twitter.com/MadeUpWho/status/924930939565826048 The more interesting tidbit that Benjamin Cook (the interviewer) has revealed is that RTD and Julie had to OK the piece. Which they did. https://twitter.com/benjamin_cook/status/924953470951743489
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Nov 6, 2017 22:23
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It's particularly funny that he laments not having a comic role, because that whole part was basically comic relief with a little bit of sweetness baked in. The only softball interview I've seen that's more hostile was that one with Jerry Lewis a couple years ago.
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Nov 6, 2017 22:54
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The impression one consistently takes away from that interview is that he probably didn't have to act very hard in "Revelation of the Daleks".
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Nov 6, 2017 23:30
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Why is Germany getting a complete Seventh Doctor DVD box set and nobody else 
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Nov 8, 2017 04:13
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all-Rush mixtape posted:Why is Germany getting a complete Seventh Doctor DVD box set and nobody else Germany's getting select German versions of Big Finish audios. They're actually recording the 10th Doctor & Donna audios with German actors.
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Nov 8, 2017 04:59
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I've got to say, it's pretty loving weird to rewatch Fires of Pompeii now.
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Nov 8, 2017 05:46
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howe_sam posted:I've got to say, it's pretty loving weird to rewatch Fires of Pompeii now. Tell me about it.  Just can't take it seriously now that I know this guy is there somewhere.
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Nov 8, 2017 05:52
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I mean if you know you're going to leave a preserved corpse Might as well give some one something to talk about
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Nov 8, 2017 06:08
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The_Doctor posted:Nice to see this is doing the rounds again: I was sure we'd talked about this relatively recently in the thread and I guess three months or so ago is recent: Fil5000 posted:The first time I saw that interview was when a friend emailed it me in a text file titled "cliveswiftisacunt.txt" And how right he was.
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Nov 8, 2017 15:51
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https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/928608189586788352 Awesome.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:10
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Interesting costume choice. I was expecting something a little bit more action hero-y to be honest, but it's not bad at all. Wonder if she'll change outfit as often as Capaldi, though.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:26
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i like it, despite the obvious mork from ork vibes and it looks easy to cosplay for the nerds. but by the end of her run it'll be something really different i'd imagine.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:30
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My first thought was “shoulderpads and overcoat inspired by the High Council.”
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Nov 9, 2017 14:33
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Yeah, both Capaldi and Smith went through several costume changes. Capaldi especially. I like it, it's something unique and sets her apart from the rest, without having to resort to putting her in a skirt or something.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:33
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The TARDIS deco changes are interesting too. The phone cabinet placard is black now, and no more St. John's Ambulance badge.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:34
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The braces are a nice touch. I reckon they'll be Thirteen's trademark thing that seems just slightly out of place like the bow tie was for Eleven.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:41
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I like it, and the TARDIS looks like the 80s model again.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:58
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I've already seen someone on facebook describing the costume as terrible, and then going off on a tangent about how they handed over Doctor Who to the worst writer IN THE HISTORY OF THE SHOW and then cast an  Unknown Female as the doctor just because she was his friend.As opposed to Tennant getting cast by RTD since they worked together on Casanova and he knew he was a great actor.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:11
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Yvonmukluk posted:I've already seen someone on facebook describing the costume as terrible, and then going off on a tangent about how they handed over Doctor Who to the worst writer IN THE HISTORY OF THE SHOW and then cast an Never read Facebook comments.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:21
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I think they've done a good job of making her look Doctor-ish without putting her in a man's clothes or something completely unisex.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:28
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I'm not crazy about it, mostly because I'm not a fan of capris. Especially high wasted ones. It looks like she's got them hitched up too high. But whatever, it's not the worst costume.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:42
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