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I've been humming "bread and roses" for God knows how long without realizing it.
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WillyTheNewGuy posted:I did, in fact! My app game, Magic Shovel Quest, that tricks people into digging up mafioso bodies in the Meadowlands is doing quite well! oh yeah it was ingenious letting you get point multipliers for finding multiple blood relatives i'm still looking for the last two Panzarino brothers
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Nov 8, 2017 06:16
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SKULL.GIF posted:A socialist just knocked out a 25-year GOP leader without any help from wastroid Democrats. Nope. Cross quoting from the Trump thread. skeleton warrior posted:Lee Carter top donors:
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Nov 8, 2017 06:17
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SKULL.GIF posted:A trans woman just crushed the man behind the bathroom bill. A socialist just knocked out a 25-year GOP leader without any help from wastroid Democrats. Anyone who is honestly upset that Bernie isn't/wasn't a Democrat missed the point entirely of both his campaign and of political parties in general.
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Nov 8, 2017 06:22
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Lightning Knight posted:Yes! This is our political moment, and I'm really heartened to see an actual DSA candidate win an election, in a purple state no less. As far as I'm concerned all bets are off, and left-ward pressure on the party offers all kinds of possibilities right now. Yeah, new ideas are always great. I hope the DSA guy takes the "I am going to propose a million bills and see what sticks" approach. the left of the party should be proposing the legislation so we avoid the Obama-era problem of starting out having already compromised.
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Nov 8, 2017 06:29
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dwarf74 posted:Nope. Cross quoting from the Trump thread. Funny how the same people always manage to post something about how the democrats suck, even if it isn't true. They also manage to ignore and multiple people pointing it out in several threads. It's like they get their talking points from nameless sources on Twitter, and they trust them because they hear what they are predisposed to agree with. Tonight's a major victory for all Democrats, from centrist to DSA. People spewing division can gently caress off. Unity won tonight and the Democratic Party is moving on. Time for others to do the same.
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Nov 8, 2017 06:30
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It feels great to be surprised. Though not as good as the Hung Parliament election in June where I downed half a litre of mead in celebration. Also all the guys i voted for in Duluths election won.
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Nov 8, 2017 06:34
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Ogmius815 posted:Hey guys did you know that The Democrats are a Waste? Turns out tonight is the start, the Democrats are almost back. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Nov 8, 2017 06:36
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Been calling at work for fundraising and mass legislator contact campaigns for weeks now on the strength showed in special elections, having a blow out actual election is going to be a big boon Combating people's depressive funks and lack of enthusiasm is like the number one problem for getting people involved this year
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Nov 8, 2017 06:42
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dwarf74 posted:Nope. Cross quoting from the Trump thread. what's the source for those fundraising numbers?
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Nov 8, 2017 06:43
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The Muppets On PCP posted:what's the source for those fundraising numbers? https://www.vpap.org/candidates/280575/top_donors/
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Nov 8, 2017 06:48
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My Twitter feed is filled with announcements of fresh, young POC Democratic politicians trouncing white Republican incumbents. 
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Nov 8, 2017 06:52
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The Washington State Senate flipped. Manka Dhingra won her race, and now Democrats control all 3 branches 
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Nov 8, 2017 06:59
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seiferguy posted:The Washington State Senate flipped. Manka Dhingra won her race, and now Democrats control all 3 branches Hail Satan!
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Nov 8, 2017 07:01
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DSA candidate who ran as a democrat and got over half his funding from the democrats didn't have any democratic help- a thing some of you say with zero irony
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Nov 8, 2017 07:03
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THe dsa guy beatting the loving whip has me singing the international.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:05
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Fluffdaddy posted:DSA candidate who ran as a democrat and got over half his funding from the democrats didn't have any democratic help- a thing some of you say with zero irony https://twitter.com/patrickmwilson/status/928069919257833472 quote:In order for a Democratic candidate to get party money and backing, the candidate must report daily to party brass in Richmond about how many doors they’ve knocked, how many fundraising calls they’ve made, how many hours they’ve spent fundraising on the phone — even how many thank you notes have been sent. quote:“For-profit corporations exist to make money,” Carter said. “So if they’re giving money to a politician, it’s not out of the goodness of their heart. It’s because they’re getting something in return every single time.” quote:“Early in the campaign, Lee Carter indicated he wanted to operate independently of the caucus, and has repeatedly refused to report metrics or offer any other proof to us that he is doing the work necessary to be elected. We support his candidacy, and are hoping that he wins, but it is difficult to justify a substantial investment without knowing his path to victory.” quote:“The statement by the House caucus is disappointing and somewhat disingenuous,” he said Friday. “Early in the campaign, we ceased reporting to the House caucus after multiple information security lapses in which confidential information that we reported to the House caucus was leaked outside of the party infrastructure.
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quote:“That’s something that I look forward to working with them to correct next year as an elected member of the caucus, but from now until Nov. 7, my first priority is winning this race and driving up turnout for statewide candidates like Justin Fairfax.” Putting himself in a position where he had a clear member of the established party he supported and made it clear that he would play ball with the party if they played ball with him was smart, though I wish he had made clear how and why information security had been breached and how the party was trying to control his message. Because he didn't, it becomes he said/they said, and everyone will fall back on their preconceived notions. I really hope Fairfax gets a shot at governor in five years, he seems like a great guy and he's a good progressive politician. 
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Nov 8, 2017 07:15
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The only things up in Texas were extremely trivial constitutional amendments and all of them passed  The State Constitution is not meant for deciding which organizations are allowed to hold raffles you morons
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Nov 8, 2017 07:17
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Fluffdaddy posted:DSA candidate who ran as a democrat and got over half his funding from the democrats didn't have any democratic help- a thing some of you say with zero irony it was all in-kind contributions, mostly online ads and direct mail done in the last couple weeks of the election, and a fraction of what other candidates got overall so no he wasn't completely shut out by the party but they didn't invest too heavily in his campaign either
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Nov 8, 2017 07:18
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Ahh so it was over half of his campaign money and his largest donor was from an Obama PAC but it wasn't as much as other candidates so it only sorta counts. Got it.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:24
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Fluffdaddy posted:Ahh so it was over half of his campaign money and his largest donor was from an Obama PAC but it wasn't as much as other candidates so it only sorta counts. Got it. it's a good thing that's not what i said at all
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Nov 8, 2017 07:29
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The Democratic Party of Virginia, by their own admission, made it a point to minimize their involvement with him and focused on other candidates. That PACs showed up because they saw a winnable race and put the loving funds in to cover for that gap doesn't suddenly mean the party was supportive.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:32
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it was all in-kind contributions, mostly online ads and direct mail done in the last couple weeks of the election, and a fraction of what other candidates got overall In-kind contributions for GOTV in the run up to an election are as good as direct cash injections; better if the candidate lacks the infrastructure to put last minute cash to good use. I hate the state democratic parties but Alex Press and the rest of rose twitter are being extremely disingenuous here.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:33
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Oh Snapple! posted:The Democratic Party of Virginia, by their own admission, made it a point to minimize their involvement with him and focused on other candidates. That PACs showed up because they saw a winnable race and put the loving funds in to cover for that gap doesn't suddenly mean the party was supportive. Yes, but they also provided a semi-plausible reason for why they did it, and he provided reasons for why he did what he did. The problem is that it's all talks and interviews and no actual hard proof from either side, and so long as that's true it's just going to come down to what you already believe going in. The big takeaway from Virginia still isn't who runs, but that people need to run for everything. They're documenting a 20% increase in votes for Democrats just because there was a Dem to vote for in nearly every race, and even noted extremely boring, extremely white Northam managed to pull a +9 victory. The party not fully supporting this guy is bad not because he was a progressive, but because a 50 state, top to bottom strategy is paramount regardless. Also notable is that Dems managed to bring the Georgia GOP from supermajority to simple majority in their legislature, apparently? I might be misremembering, I can't find the announcement tweets anymore, but that is also a good sign for running Democrats everywhere all of the time in states that usually wouldn't be bothered with.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:35
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Oh Snapple! posted:The Democratic Party of Virginia, by their own admission, made it a point to minimize their involvement with him and focused on other candidates. That PACs showed up because they saw a winnable race and put the loving funds in to cover for that gap doesn't suddenly mean the party was supportive. exactly, and again it was right at the very end where they had some cash to burn and it was for mailers and online ad buys which means they're just reshuffling that money from the pac to some dem-affiliated marketing companies
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Nov 8, 2017 07:37
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Lightning Knight posted:Yes, but they also provided a semi-plausible reason for why they did it, and he provided reasons for why he did what he did. The problem is that it's all talks and interviews and no actual hard proof from either side, and so long as that's true it's just going to come down to what you already believe going in. This isn't wrong but trying to frame PAC support as Party support in this case is just dumb as poo poo.
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Oh Snapple! posted:This isn't wrong but trying to frame PAC support as Party support in this case is just dumb as poo poo. Arguably PAC support is party support at the present time, that's just not a good thing for the American political system.  Edit: at least, in this case, the main PAC was apparently Obama-affiliated, which I feel is noteworthy as well.
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Lightning Knight posted:Arguably PAC support is party support at the present time, that's just not a good thing for the American political system. '08 Obama-affiliated
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If you're not willing to prove to the party that you're actively campaigning and not sitting at home picking your nose while they funnel money into your campaign account then you don't deserve party funds. This is basic accountability.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:48
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Oh Snapple! posted:'08 Obama-affiliated I don't follow. Was it a time-traveling PAC?
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Typical Pubbie posted:If you're not willing to prove to the party that you're actively campaigning and not sitting at home picking your nose while they funnel money into your campaign account then you don't deserve party funds. This is basic accountability. And also if you don't follow the corporate-friendly party line, apparently. I guess purity is more important than winning control of the chamber though, but that's okay, the Socialist came through for yall anyway
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Nov 8, 2017 07:51
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VitalSigns posted:And also if you don't follow the corporate-friendly party line, apparently. This is impossible to rebut for the simple fact that Carter won't specify what kind of "editorial control" the party wanted over his campaign. I'm glad he ran and I'm glad he won.
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Nov 8, 2017 07:54
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Why's JC trying to be all cock of the walk because his preferred mediocrity won while having to be carried by downticket candidates?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why's JC trying to be all cock of the walk because his preferred mediocrity won while having to be carried by downticket candidates? Kilroy posted:It's fascinating how JeffersonClay can take any arbitrary sequence of events and interpret them as a victory for, and validation of, centrist politics. I could describe the fission of uranium-235 to him and within three sentences he'd bring up James Comey. He's like an early build of AlphaGo except trained on lovely blogs and forum posts, running on someone's broke-dick circa 2012 Bitcoin farm.
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Juff-Clak, upon seeing someone discover fire: ook ook, moderate beast eater victory, no need weak root-growthers! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I am so glad the took the house to 50/50, because now the republicans can't just strip Northam of all his gubernatorial powers. edit: incidentally, who's the tie-breaker for VA state house?
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Nov 8, 2017 14:14
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Chilichimp posted:I am so glad the took the house to 50/50, because now the republicans can't just strip Northam of all his gubernatorial powers. there is none. We get this fun scenario: quote:It happened in 1997, and this is what they did: but it might not end up a tie after all the votes are counted: https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928239402505179141
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