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a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah nintendo is just full of gimmicks, not like a REAL game company like microsoft and the kinect.

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2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Nintendo make fake games with frame rates higher than 25fps and loading screens shorter than 99999999 minutes

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.
Don’t get me wrong, Nintendo makes fun video games, it’s just that they don’t make a lot of them, they have bad graphics and third parties don’t Nintendo’s consoles much. So the Nintendo universe is kind of a game desert with only a few oasis’s. I still wish I had a Switch though.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
had to delete a whole paragraph bc i was about to get u wrong. thanks for the heads up. anyway, my unpopular video game opinion is, i want a third person shooter where the main character is morbidly obese, shoots from the hip and has combat powers like 'belly bulge' and 'sit'. his knee caps can explode with the effects of a flashbang

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014
I think bethesda rgps get way too much praise for how janky they are and how bland/awful the gameplay is.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound
That's not unpopular, they basically farm out the polish and later stages of development to modders.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.
The jankiness is half of what makes Bethesda RPGs fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93W6mB0ZqCM

limp_cheese posted:

Destiny 2 is boring. It's basically everything I find wrong with big budget games. The graphics looked great but the guns felt like Fisher Price toys and none of the backstory was explained. The fact it's just grinding so you can do more grinding really turned me off.

I got a refund after playing it for maybe 2 hours and believe I made the right decision.

This was after friends of mine cummed their pants at how great it was and told me I was going to LOVE it.

Same except I got it for free so whatever. Destiny 2 pvp is the least fun I've ever had playing a multiplayer FPS.

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014

new phone who dis posted:

That's not unpopular, they basically farm out the polish and later stages of development to modders.

You'd be surprised at how many console only friends/co workers I know that like the base games.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

ChazTurbo posted:

You'd be surprised at how many console only friends/co workers I know that like the base games.

it's hard to have a baseline for what's a good game when you've only ever played skyrim and minecraft

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
Doki Doki Literature Club is extremely boring. I don't care if it's a brilliant subversion of the genre or whatever, if I still have to click through the stupid thing it's subverting for 3+ hours.

Maybe I just don't have the exact type of brain damage necessary to enjoy VNs.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I don't understand the modern love for Mario and other Nintendo franchises. To me it's the equivalent of continuing to play Tetris. Yeah it's classic but at some point you'd think people would get bored of the same thing.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Vegetable posted:

I don't understand the modern love for Mario and other Nintendo franchises. To me it's the equivalent of continuing to play Tetris. Yeah it's classic but at some point you'd think people would get bored of the same thing.
Yeah why would anyone play Chess, Basketball, and Rally Race when Settlers of Catan, Freerunning, and Jet Skiing exist?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

mind the walrus posted:

Yeah why would anyone play Chess, Basketball, and Rally Race when Settlers of Catan, Freerunning, and Jet Skiing exist?

I forgot basketball was a solitary product constrained by technologica limitations of the day it was published.

A better analogy would be people still claiming that Edison movie of a blacksmith sneezing is the best film ever.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Vegetable posted:

I don't understand the modern love for Mario and other Nintendo franchises. To me it's the equivalent of continuing to play Tetris. Yeah it's classic but at some point you'd think people would get bored of the same thing.

I feel this way about military/semi-realistic shooters. That genre has not really taken a step forward since counterstrike except for maybe vehicles

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Away all Goats posted:

I feel this way about military/semi-realistic shooters. That genre has not really taken a step forward since counterstrike except for maybe vehicles

Every year there is a new crop of 13 year olds to buy the new editions.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
L4D2 was the only time I can recall, if you squint real hard, that I didn't buy a game on principle. It pissed me off that Valve released a sequel with a small amount of QoL changes and some new maps instead of adding content to the original game literally one year after they released L4D, a full price game that was practically devoid of content. They promised they were going to add new maps and things, then just went radio silence and released a new game instead.

Greedy af. Any other dev would have drip fed that content into the original game, or at worst released it as a cheaper xpac. They just released the same game again one year later with all the content they said they'd add to the original and charged full price.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The Dreamcast was good and I was not dumb for buying one.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

They added two new campaigns, with one shared map between them (played very differently), and codified a fan-made campaign. Then they added all the L4d1 campaigns. Yeah it's not Tf2 levels of content but it's not nothing.

L4D2 is way better than L4d1 in nearly every way. L4d1 has heavy physics but nothing else even remotely "realistic" and the maps are visually dull. You can also cheese massive chunks of the campaigns with Shiva-stacking which is why Valve added The Spitter. All of the new items are worth a drat too. Adrenaline, defibrillators, Bile, the magnum, and varieties of shotgun, automatic gun, and sniper rifle add a real layer of playstyle customization.

Yes. It was unambiguously lovely for Valve to release L4D2 so soon after the first. A lot of customers got burnt. I respect that and agree it wasn't right.

That said the game stands on its own and is better than the original, and going by this thread that's the real unpopular opinion.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Vegetable posted:

I don't understand the modern love for Mario and other Nintendo franchises. To me it's the equivalent of continuing to play Tetris. Yeah it's classic but at some point you'd think people would get bored of the same thing.

Who on earth is claiming they still love Super Mario Bros after playing it for decades

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
90% of games graphics today spend way too much time on trying to get perfect lighting

my computer crunches to a standstill trying to render the perfect shadow while the game has no redeeming features otherwise

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
also, COD WW2 has the best modern map design since black ops 1 or MW2, I can finally enjoy the freedom of being able to move around a map and not be stuck in a 2meter by 2 foot corridor that was made so console players don't have to aim left or right or up or down

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga

The Dennis System posted:

Don’t get me wrong, Nintendo makes fun video games, it’s just that they don’t make a lot of them, they have bad graphics and third parties don’t Nintendo’s consoles much. So the Nintendo universe is kind of a game desert with only a few oasis’s. I still wish I had a Switch though.

lol if you ever buy a nintendo console at launch


also I really enjoy buying a bunch of poo poo just to play a game because apparently every single game on the new nintendo consoles need their own special controller just to play

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
The filthy red headed girl from Horizon Zero Dawn is better than tomb raider >8)

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

mind the walrus posted:

They added two new campaigns, with one shared map between them (played very differently), and codified a fan-made campaign. Then they added all the L4d1 campaigns. Yeah it's not Tf2 levels of content but it's not nothing.

L4D2 is way better than L4d1 in nearly every way. L4d1 has heavy physics but nothing else even remotely "realistic" and the maps are visually dull. You can also cheese massive chunks of the campaigns with Shiva-stacking which is why Valve added The Spitter. All of the new items are worth a drat too. Adrenaline, defibrillators, Bile, the magnum, and varieties of shotgun, automatic gun, and sniper rifle add a real layer of playstyle customization.

Yes. It was unambiguously lovely for Valve to release L4D2 so soon after the first. A lot of customers got burnt. I respect that and agree it wasn't right.

That said the game stands on its own and is better than the original, and going by this thread that's the real unpopular opinion.

I recently played l4d2 with some friends for the first time in awhile because it's halloween zombie movie time and I had a lot of fun. The biggest mystery to me is why they turned tf2 into the cosmetic item farming thing instead of l4d2. It just seems much more casual and suited for it than tf2.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
the playstation 1 had a much better range of good third party games and official games than the n64 ever had in first party exclusives

armored core and metal gear and spyro were the poo poo

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Magius1337est posted:

the playstation 1 had a much better range of good third party games and official games than the n64 ever had in first party exclusives

Croc and Croc and Croc were the poo poo

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

They added two new campaigns, with one shared map between them (played very differently), and codified a fan-made campaign. Then they added all the L4d1 campaigns. Yeah it's not Tf2 levels of content but it's not nothing.

L4D2 is way better than L4d1 in nearly every way. L4d1 has heavy physics but nothing else even remotely "realistic" and the maps are visually dull. You can also cheese massive chunks of the campaigns with Shiva-stacking which is why Valve added The Spitter. All of the new items are worth a drat too. Adrenaline, defibrillators, Bile, the magnum, and varieties of shotgun, automatic gun, and sniper rifle add a real layer of playstyle customization.

Yes. It was unambiguously lovely for Valve to release L4D2 so soon after the first. A lot of customers got burnt. I respect that and agree it wasn't right.

That said the game stands on its own and is better than the original, and going by this thread that's the real unpopular opinion.

That is the correct opinion to have. L4D2 is absolutely better than L4D1, and with the add-ons putting BOTH games into L4D2, there is zero reason to play L4D1.

What people don't realize is Versus, which was always a ton of fun in L4D and with a surprising amount of strategy to it for such a popcorn game, was SO much loving worse in L4D1. Without Chargers and Spitters the only thing you needed to do was voltron in a corner whackin' away with your rifle melee.

You are 100% right on fall fronts. Also the reason L4D2 came out soon fast after L4D1 wasn't scummy business practices, it was because Valve bought the game from Turtle Rock, and didn't want to spend a ton of time making updates for a game they didn't develop from the ground up themselves. Frankly there was enough new content for the thing I can't be pissed at Valve about it, it wasn't like an expansion, it was absolutely a full and complete sequel with MAJOR gameplay improvements.

Magius1337est posted:

the playstation 1 had a much better range of good third party games and official games than the n64 ever had in first party exclusives

armored core and metal gear and spyro were the poo poo

I don't want to see a world where this is not the popular opinion

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 8, 2017

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Magius1337est posted:

the playstation 1 had a much better range of good third party games and official games than the n64 ever had in first party exclusives

armored core and metal gear and spyro were the poo poo

The n64 was loving garbage except for its multiplayer games.

The controller alone is enough to call it one of the worst consoles ever.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a bone to pick posted:

The n64 was loving garbage except for its multiplayer games.

The controller alone is enough to call it one of the worst consoles ever.

gently caress that controlle. I don't know why people think it was good. It's atrocious.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
Just gonna use my third arm to hold the analog stick on the n64 controller

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

Blazing Ownager posted:

gently caress that controlle. I don't know why people think it was good. It's atrocious.

Anyone ever try to do the twin stick goldeneye/perfect dark thing with one controller in each hand? :negative:

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Blazing Ownager posted:

gently caress that controlle. I don't know why people think it was good. It's atrocious.

It was an all right first shake at an analog stick controller that can't hold a candle to anything new.

As a 2-in-1 controller it was a comical failure because everyone loved analog and all of 2 games used the dpad and buttons setup.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
assuming that you'll never lose access to a game you bought and there will be discounts I am completely on board with getting rid of physical media

but I guess consoles are a different thing since they're a closed system and I use a PC where if you really want to play a game and the company that made it won't let you you can always grab a torrent and no-cd

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
also my personal prediction is that gaming laptops are going to reach parity with consoles really soon and pc gaming will become a much more preferred way to play games as it gives you both non-gaming productivity functions and graphics capability on par with consoles since no one really cares about 4k anyways

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Magius1337est posted:

also my personal prediction is that gaming laptops are going to reach parity with consoles really soon and pc gaming will become a much more preferred way to play games as it gives you both non-gaming productivity functions and graphics capability on par with consoles since no one really cares about 4k anyways

gaming laptops are always extremely expensive though.

My PS4 cost me $250 used. A used gaming laptop with equivalent specs is $700 - $1000.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga

a bone to pick posted:

gaming laptops are always extremely expensive though.

My PS4 cost me $250 used. A used gaming laptop with equivalent specs is $700 - $1000.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-15-7000-gaming/spd/inspiron-15-7567-laptop

realistically polycounts probably aren't going to get much higher for awhile

Defenistrator
Mar 27, 2007
Ask me about my burritos
Pornographic video games shout be rated on IGN

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

My favorite PSX game was Monster Ranche Battle Card Episode II

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Vegetable posted:

I don't understand the modern love for Mario and other Nintendo franchises. To me it's the equivalent of continuing to play Tetris. Yeah it's classic but at some point you'd think people would get bored of the same thing.

Because it's not the same thing? They continually try new stuff and improve on their games and have a level of polish that is rarely seen elsewhere.

I'm far from a fanboy, but they make something that no one else does and have really high standard for quality. Also, basically everyone can enjoy their games. That's why people love nintendo.

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Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
if there ever was a game that deserved dlc expansion packs its the new 4 player mario games

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