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theodop posted:yeah i started to do a lab report in latex and got up to putting things above one another in a column header and immediately opened up word instead. have you read Lamport’s LaTeX: A Document Preparation System? no? you should do you keep it next to you while writing LaTeX? no? you should (I don’t know if there’s a PDF floating around as  but if there is I’d want one to augment my paper copy, but I’d also have the paper copy for convenience of flipping around to different sections as I write)
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eschaton posted:have you read Lamport’s LaTeX: A Document Preparation System? no? you should I have not, but I'll pick it up
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:*wanders into thread* theodop posted:yeah i started to do a lab report in latex and got up to putting things above one another in a column header and immediately opened up word instead. eschaton posted:when last I wrote LaTeX, I authored it using Pete Keleher’s Alpha editor on System 7, and used OzTeX to render it, on a 25 MHz 68040 with 12MB of RAM and a 120MB hard drive eschaton posted:have you read Lamport’s LaTeX: A Document Preparation System? no? you should you cannot give outright harmful suggestions just because this is a terrible programmer thread and something worked for you before internet was invented
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to address multirow table cell question specifically, use multirow or tabularx or use one of like half a dozen native options, such as p-columns, nested tabulars, shortstacks, arrays, text bullets, etc
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google and snack overflow worked p well for me figuring out latex yesterday i managed to get emoji working in pdflatex and it only took me like an hour!!!! (dont ask what shameful things i am doing with this) Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:google and snack overflow worked p well for me figuring out latex same, my first latex project was to digitise a nuclear physics college textbook written by a prof who worked at my alma mater in soviet times and it was basically rear end clenching experience for 6 months but random blogspot pages, stack overlfow, and cigarettes got me through
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also please post your emoji movie transcript when you are done
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LaTeX is fine plain TeX is also fine i cut my teeth on the latter because the university library didn't have a copy of lamport's book i did some of my computer science science using plain TeX and thought the output was the neatest thing ever
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There Will Be Penalty posted:LaTeX is fine plain tex is fine but there are virtually no reasons to ever use it in 2017
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why are latex distributions giga mega huge?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:why are latex distributions giga mega huge? because full distors are offline ctan mirrors containing just the latest version. entire ctan with all history is less than 40 gigs
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cinci zoo sniper posted:because full distors are offline ctan mirrors containing just the latest version. entire ctan with all history is less than 40 gigs but i thought latex is text, code, and vector graphics. why is it so huge?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:but i thought latex is text, code, and vector graphics. why is it so huge? distro doesn't have much graphics per se, just a lot of text, code, and binaries. ctan is collection of all packages ever developed for latex by someone competent
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cinci zoo sniper posted:plain tex is fine but there are virtually no reasons to ever use it in 2017 sure
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latex is a superposition of awful and awesome
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c tp s: did a change, tested it locally. found a bug and fixed it. fast forward to it being merged, the bug persisted. the problem? i never loving committed the bugfix 
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latex is a hot mess but it makes pretty documents and at least you can loving git diff the nasty-rear end \source{code}
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gonadic io posted:c tp s: Still have you beat. Yesterday I made a change, tested it, looked into diff --staged to make sure I didn't add something by mistake... noticed a commented out line that shouldn't have been, uncommented it, commited and went to sleep. All builds were red today, because I was an idiot and didn't test the change afterwards 
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where’s the half assed latex reimplementation in nodejs with json syntax and a bootstrap homepage describing it as minimal and beautiful
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a modern-ish replacement for latex is the one situation where xml might sort of make sense so of course nobody has done it actually, looking at the abomination that is mathml, probably not. forget i said anything.
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We've used html-to-pdf poo poo a bunch where we might possible have used latex. I guess 1) we have lots of webdevs, and 2) with electron too, html/js really is becoming the go-to lang for front-end pretty stuff even outside of strictly web contexts.
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Soricidus posted:where’s the half assed latex reimplementation in nodejs with json syntax and a bootstrap homepage describing it as minimal and beautiful http://www.prat0318.com/json_resume/ here?
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lay-tecks or lah-tech?
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carry on then posted:lay-tecks or lah-tech? It depends on whether I'm in the bedroom or the office
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carry on then posted:lay-tecks or lah-tech? lay-tech or lah-tech
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cinci zoo sniper posted:lay-tech
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cinci zoo sniper posted:lay-tech don't leak my pitches
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id love to have just some solid loops & string-manip stuff in latex that isnt either a) half-baked or b) a nightmare of expl3
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Powaqoatse posted:id love to have just some solid loops & string-manip stuff in latex that isnt either a) half-baked or b) a nightmare of expl3 Isn't this was luatex is for? Disclaimer: I know nothing about luatex and might be horribly wrong
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Arcsech posted:Isn't this was luatex is for?
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Soricidus posted:where’s the half assed latex reimplementation in nodejs with json syntax and a bootstrap homepage describing it as minimal and beautiful you mean in ocaml
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i recently had to decompile a deployed assembly and compare it to a local build (also decompiled) to figure out why something was broken. turns out someone had compiled their own version of this assembly which replaced a very important validation method with return true, and threw it up onto the server luckily, this was pre-prod. however, there's nothing stopping people from doing this to production systems (and in fact we've had multiple issues from people doing similar things to prod in the past!)
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i dont like the idea of embedding a whole nother language and i dont want to learn lua i just want some readable builtins for basic poo poo
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Sapozhnik posted:a modern-ish replacement for latex is the one situation where xml might sort of make sense so of course nobody has done it i don't know how they compare to latex or to each other, but there's a bunch of xml-based typesetting programs and sysrems
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latex is great if you want something to look "nice" and you're not picky about which version of "nice" you need it is literally completely impossible to use if you want it to look a specific nice way unless you have severe brain damage. dont even try, you cant do it. if you don't believe me just pick a random question on the tex snackexchange board: every single answer is a completely different and equally disgusting hack, presented as a rational and routine solution. lay-tech for cool dudes, lah-tech for technically correct but insufferable linguistics nerds.
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ShimaTetsuo posted:latex is great if you want something to look "nice" and you're not picky about which version of "nice" you need or if someone with severe brain damage has already done all the work for you, like conferences that publish templates or whatever. just cross your fingers it puts your figures in a sane place because if not then rip also lah-tech because it sounds the least like latex
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ShimaTetsuo posted:latex is great if you want something to look "nice" and you're not picky about which version of "nice" you need every single stack overflow for LaTeX has three answers: - a straightforward way to get what you want which is invariably deprecated - a method which involves swapping out one of the packages you're using for a package with almost but not quite the same name - a 'modern' method involving function names containing underscores which won't work with whichever version of TeX you have and they're always presented as a block of code to copy and paste rather than an explanation
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Arcsech posted:tbh i have done this in latex when i couldnt figure out how to get it to make the loving table look right i've used things like plot.ly for tables and graphs when crunched for time, with deadlines do whatever is "good enough." if it needs to be better than that it is no real effort to yank someone elses config or template as you said, but fiddling around with it isn't that painful considering the alternatives ShimaTetsuo posted:word is great if you want something to look "nice" and you're not picky about which version of "nice" you need
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