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JcDent posted:Oh I know how disappointing sword Sigmarines are. It's just that mortal wounds feel even more disappointing and cheap, especially when they're free (finishes charge, starsoul). That is literally nothing compared to the bloodletters that can be doing extra hits on a 3+ and mortal wounds on a 3+ as well. They will delete whatever they can charge
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Or basically rolling a 6 at any time with Pestilens. Basically everything in the faction deals mortal wounds somehow. Hell, plague monks even deal mortal wounds by DYING.
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Someone on Aggro Gator posted this image: And I realized that this is exactly the tone and color palette that AoS started off with. AoS is He-Man: The Game.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Someone on Aggro Gator posted this image: I'm that rad rear end triskele sword thing He-Man's rocking. I read through a trade of Abnett's Masters of the Universe comic stuff not too long ago and I was getting serious AoS vibes from it was well.
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So did GW decide to make Carnosaur models shittier? I wanted to get a Kroq-Gar figure because he's rad as gently caress in Total Warhams, but when I went to look on ebay, there's one model that looks decent (and I'd be all over if it had his unique spear): https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIZARDMEN-...1YAAOSwtu9Zx9yg ...and every other option the carnosaur looks like an off-brand Tyranid: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Scar-Leader-Kroq-Gar-Metal-x1-Lizardmen-Warhammer-NIB/282668250561?hash=item41d05735c1:g:IzAAAOSwqd1ZyHb9 Like even discounting that the first guy did a pretty good paint job, the base model looks so much better.
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SirPhoebos posted:So did GW decide to make Carnosaur models shittier? First link is the most recent plastic Carnosaur, which can also be made as Kroq-Gar or a Troglodon. The second link is the really old metal one. I'm gonna shamelessly use this as an excuse to post my Kroq I did:  
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^That's a very nice Kroq, by the way^GuardianOfAsgaard posted:First link is the most recent plastic Carnosaur, which can also be made as Kroq-Gar or a Troglodon. The second link is the really old metal one. Oh, the newer one is better. I'm so used to the "GW has brainworms" stories that I initially assumed the worse 
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You're behind on the times my friend. GW is Good Now.
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SteelMentor posted:You're behind on the times my friend. GW is Good Now. alternately, gw is still bad and youre just gullible 
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GW is Good and still can Improve but they're doing Much Better than before.
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GW is a corporation beholden to the interests of its investors and assigning a moral attribute to it, whether it be good or bad, only empowers the capitalists.
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW is a corporation beholden to the interests of its investors and assigning a moral attribute to it, whether it be good or bad, only empowers the capitalists. This but unironically
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GW is well.
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW is a corporation beholden to the interests of its investors and assigning a moral attribute to it, whether it be good or bad, only empowers the capitalists. Not empty quoting.
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW is a corporation beholden to the interests of its investors and assigning a moral attribute to it, whether it be good or bad, only empowers the capitalists. Yeah but those new skeletons look dope.
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mango sentinel posted:Yeah but those new skeletons look dope. Nothing wrong with that.
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GW Is Maybe Not As Bad It Used To Be, But Still Not Good. ED: Previously JcDent fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Matte color schemes actually really work well, There's an official teal scheme that gets some play. The real trick is to figure out how to delineate the armor parts so you don't get the problem the Hammers/gold scheme has where it looks like a huge blob of gold that's not good to look at. Unrelated: gently caress Prosecutors. gently caress any Stormcast thing with the dumb wings. After having the Knight-Venator explode on me and just spending an ordeal with the Prosecutor Prime from the Blood and Thunder box where the wing wouldn't glue on, I hate them so much. If any new Stormcast models come out with those wings then I will not buy them, and probably lose a lot of games because they do Mortal Wounds when they move or something. The Deleter fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Not sure if this is the right place for this, but if anyone is interested in buying just the Shadespire skeleton minis and not the cards, PM me because I would like to sell an extra set of models.
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I have a question for those of you who have played already: Is the core Shadespire box, even with expansions, really a two-player game? If you're just starting out and use the two pre-constructed decks, I would say the answer is yes. However, once you crack open the additional cards and start building, doesn't it kind of break down? There aren't any duplicate cards, right? So once I build a deck using a certain group of faction-neutral cards, the second player no longer has access to them, and in limiting the second player like that, it's really not a two-player game anymore, because they don't have the same access to cards as you. A dumb analogy would be like playing Monopoly with two decks of properties where you've stacked your deck with the high-value places, leaving your opponent with the crap. Am I wrong?
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berzerkmonkey posted:I have a question for those of you who have played already: Is the core Shadespire box, even with expansions, really a two-player game? There are duplicate cards. Each side has one copy of their faction specific cards and one copy of the generic cards, so they can deck-build independently. It is VERY GOOD that they did this for exactly the reason you described. It would be amazing if the expansions came with duplicate generic cards but unfortunately that is not the case. WorldIndustries fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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JcDent posted:GW Is Maybe Not As Bad It Used To Be, But Still Not Good. What's an example of a good company then? I only started getting into GW stuff last summer (outside of SH/WHQ) and so far I'd rate them at the top of the industry. Also, figure this is the place to ask - what's the latest on Elf/Aelf rumors for AoS? I don't play but might rethink that if elves are freshened up.
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Booyah- posted:There are duplicate cards. Each side has one copy of their faction specific cards and one copy of the generic cards, so they can deck-build independently. It is VERY GOOD that they did this for exactly the reason you described. Whew - that's good to hear. I was talking out my rear end because I haven't cracked the seal on the cards yet, since I haven't painted the models. EDIT: Why the hell did I post this in the AoS thread? Sorry about that.
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There are non really, at least nothing reliable. There's a rumor of a sea going Cthulhu inspired faction that gets trotted out now and then but it's over a year old at this point.
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Shadin posted:What's an example of a good company then? I only started getting into GW stuff last summer (outside of SH/WHQ) and so far I'd rate them at the top of the industry. Atlas Hugged posted:GW is a corporation beholden to the interests of its investors and assigning a moral attribute to it, whether it be good or bad, only empowers the capitalists.
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No, I agree. I just see GW get constant poo poo, and as far as I can tell they're no worse in product quality and generally Making poo poo I Wanna Buy than any other companies out there in the same industry.
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Shadin posted:No, I agree. I just see GW get constant poo poo, and as far as I can tell they're no worse in product quality and generally Making poo poo I Wanna Buy than any other companies out there in the same industry. They've got the biggest market share, and therefore, have the loudest base of detractors. Plus, they have made some pretty boneheaded decisions in the past, which just serves to fuel the fires of Internet nerd rage. Plus, as a business, they want to make money for some weird reason, and that really gets people's panties in a bunch.
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Shadin posted:No, I agree. I just see GW get constant poo poo, and as far as I can tell they're no worse in product quality and generally Making poo poo I Wanna Buy than any other companies out there in the same industry. I'm new to this hobby as well so I've only known Good GW™ but they were a moderately different company not long ago. They're a slowly turning ship but the initial launch of AoS was a nightmare and until very recently had a bunch of policies, practices, and design decisions that were aggressively anti consumer, and occasionally anti-retail. There's apparently a lot of pent up rage from those days and it draws venom when pointed towards today's GW with premium pricing and occasional gently caress ups I'm more willing to ascribe to idiocy than malice.
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mango sentinel posted:I'm new to this hobby as well so I've only known Good GW™ but they were a moderately different company not long ago. They're a slowly turning ship but the initial launch of AoS was a nightmare and until very recently had a bunch of policies, practices, and design decisions that were aggressively anti consumer, and occasionally anti-retail. Yeah I knew they were poo poo from a distance when they had a different CEO, but I never really dived into the backstory. When they were poo poo, they made nothing I wanted to buy, so I never bothered.
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The GW Specialist Thread currently has "Spend 2CP to Replace CEO" as a title for a reason. A long while back their internal culture treated the models as the be-all-end-all of their business, not the game systems attached to them, and seemed incredibly tone-deaf regarding the multitude of things that they competed with. "Jewel-like objects of wonder" and "Video games are just a fad" are some choice quotes from past investor relations reports. Then Age of Sigmar happened, dumpstering a 30 year old setting with complex and cool poo poo and replacing it with faceless gold men who bear a striking resemblance to Space Marines. There's also some stuff about their lovely store practices and treatment of employee, but I don't remember that off the top of my head. Nowadays they've slowly turned the boat around by interacting more with the community, the release of 40k 8th Edition, the return of specialist games in some form or another and the slow unfucking of the AoS setting into a merely okay high fantasy setting with a progressing plot. They're not perfect, but they're infinitely less hostile than their past incarnation so I'm cool with giving them money.
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The Deleter posted:The GW Specialist Thread currently has "Spend 2CP to Replace CEO" as a title for a reason. A long while back their internal culture treated the models as the be-all-end-all of their business, not the game systems attached to them, and seemed incredibly tone-deaf regarding the multitude of things that they competed with. "Jewel-like objects of wonder" and "Video games are just a fad" are some choice quotes from past investor relations reports. Then Age of Sigmar happened, dumpstering a 30 year old setting with complex and cool poo poo and replacing it with faceless gold men who bear a striking resemblance to Space Marines. There's also some stuff about their lovely store practices and treatment of employee, but I don't remember that off the top of my head. Oh yeah, no, I totally get it. I just keep seeing people throwing salt everywhere, so I'd legitimately like to know who they think is better based on what's happening right now in the industry, instead of just rehashing "well back in 2002". Regardless, it's not worth pressing. That's a shame there's no solid Aelves rumors. I'd like Sigwatchers.
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Any word on that Nurgle book for AoS like Tzeentch and Khorne had? I thought they would have combined it with the Death Guard release but that kind of came and went with only the blightwar box coming around the same time for the AoS side. I want my plastic Great Unclean One
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I point I tried to make with the last iteration of the death thread was that every company is bad. Everyone has hosed up pretty badly in the last few years and while some companies have tried to improve, a bunch have gone under. Mostly the people who run these companies aren't great businessmen and when they are, they're often tone deaf to the hobby and its base. Right now, GW seems to be doing pretty well for itself. Mantic is still going through growing pains, but they're making honest attempts at improving. But it always feels like one step forward, one step back with them.
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AnEdgelord posted:Any word on that Nurgle book for AoS like Tzeentch and Khorne had? I thought they would have combined it with the Death Guard release but that kind of came and went with only the blightwar box coming around the same time for the AoS side. Looks like chaos daemons for 40k in January or Feb, so around then is likely
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Shadin posted:No, I agree. I just see GW get constant poo poo, and as far as I can tell they're no worse in product quality and generally Making poo poo I Wanna Buy than any other companies out there in the same industry. gripping beast is my platonic ideal of wargame company that i like to give money to dunno if i really want to get into why i think gw is still bad here, it will just devolve into the usual suspects trotting out the same old arguments and hot takes on both sides. there is a death thread buried somewhere in this subforum that would be a better place for it
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Booyah- posted:Not sure if this is the right place for this, but if anyone is interested in buying just the Shadespire skeleton minis and not the cards, PM me because I would like to sell an extra set of models. ps if youre still trying to get rid of these, i do like me some skellie mans. not everything gw does is the worst, and the new bonebois are extremely my poo poo
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:gripping beast is my platonic ideal of wargame company that i like to give money to 
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Shadin posted:Oh yeah, no, I totally get it. I just keep seeing people throwing salt everywhere, so I'd legitimately like to know who they think is better based on what's happening right now in the industry, instead of just rehashing "well back in 2002". Regardless, it's not worth pressing. It's hard to say. Most companies make games with way more robust or interesting mechanics than GW's buckets of dice, so if you're looking for for a better game it's not hard. The issue is, like Atlas Hugged put it, every minis company has hosed up in some way. Privateer Press hosed the release of the third edition of Warmachine/Hordes to the point where Skorne had to get a whole new book. Malifaux uses a cool conflict resolution system but you end up gluing the feet and ankles of zombie prostitutes together. X-Wing cuts out the gluing and painting, but FFG insist on packaging everything to force you to buy multiple sets of the same thing. Spartan Games... exists? Honestly, just pick your poison. There's tons of minis games out there that are getting play and most of them are good. Are you so insecure that you need to run into every GW thread to defend them when someone criticizes them even the slightest? That's sad.
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The Deleter posted:Spartan Games... exists? Have I news for you!
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