Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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ded redd: Aug 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/antifa_ne/status/928392989298384897

Was about to post this in USPol, but they're a little bit preoccupied right now. So I'll just share this in the Trump thread, where nazis get covered, like this story featuring a nazi, where...

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TAMPA (WFLA) � The Hillsborough County State Attorney�s office released more than 300 pages of documents in the murder case of Devon Arthurs.

Arthurs, 18, is accused of killing his roommates, Jeremy Himmelman, 22, and Andrew Oneschuk, 18, in their Tampa Palms apartment on May 19.

The documents were released by the State Attorney�s office after several media organizations requested their release by the court under Florida�s Public Records Law.

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Many of the documents are heavily redacted, but they describe a brutal crime scene where Tampa police officers found the bodies of Himmelman and Oneschuk with gunshot wounds to their heads. One responding officer wrote the victims had been shot multiple times with a high-powered assault rifle.
Jeremy Himmelman and his girlfriend (Kianna Kaizer via AP)

The bodies were discovered after Arthurs walked to a smoke shop across the street from his apartment complex and held several people at gunpoint.

The statements from the witnesses inside the smoke shop were also redacted by the State Attorney�s Office, but it�s apparent Arthurs told officers he had murdered Himmelman and Oneschuk. Based on the statements Arthurs made in the smoke shop, officers went to his apartment where they found the bodies of the victims.

At the apartment, officers first heard screams from a man later identified as Brandon Russell. He had just discovered the bodies of his friends and came out of the apartment wearing an Army uniform.

When officers entered the apartment, they found the bodies of the victims, but also found neo-Nazi books, a photo of Timothy McVeigh, who murdered people with a truck bomb in Oklahoma City in 1995 and they also found materials for making explosives.

Russell told officers that the explosives and radioactive materials found in the apartment were his and that he used them to make �model rockets.�

Later, detectives learned Russell is the leader of a group that calls itself, �Atomwaffen� and claims to have 60 to 70 members across the country.

Russell is facing federal charges for being in possession of the explosives and radioactive material found inside the apartment.

Arthurs told investigators he met Russell, Oneschuck and Himmelman online. The four men described themselves as, �national socialists.�

Arthurs claimed Russell had trained them in �paramilitary tactics� in the Ocala National Forest. Arthurs told investigators he joined the �Atomwaffen� at the age of 14, dropped out of school in the 10th grade and then converted to Islam at the age of 17.

When he converted to Islam, it created problems with the other three men.

Arthurs told detectives he did not wake up in the morning with the intent to harm anyone. He also told detectives, he doesn�t feel like a monster, but he doesn�t feel sane. Arthurs claimed he spent most of that day involved in �encrypted wire chat� with members of the �Atomwaffen.�

Later in the day, Arthurs got into an argument with the victims, which led to the shooting.

What is not shown in the heavily redacted statements that Arhurs made to detectives is his statements to detectives about why he killed the victims.

In Federal Court, a recording of his confession was played in a pre-trial hearing for Russell. In the statements, Arthurs claimed he killed them to prevent a mass-terror attack the victims were planning.

Arthurs claimed Oneschuck and Himmelman were plotting to attack the power grid and other key targets in the Tampa area and Arthurs claimed his actions had saved many lives.

An attorney for Russell called the claims made by Arthurs as nothing but pure fantasy.

�I don�t believe anything Devon Arthurs says. Devon Arthurs is a person who just murdered two individuals who is desperate to save himself,� said attorney Ian Goldstein.

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:31

Goffer: Apr 4, 2007; "..."

Your Taint posted:

WELL NOW I GUESS WE NEED TO OUTLAW KNIVES TOO, LIBTARDS!

you say that but

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In NSW (Australia), under the Summary of Offences Act 1988, Section 11C:

"A person must not, without reasonable excuse (proof of which lies on the person), have in his or her custody a knife in a public place or a school."

A 'knife' includes a knife blade, a razor blade and any other blade.

edit: also:

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You can�t carry knives, including kitchen knives, Swiss army knives or box-cutters, batons, cattle prods or bayonets without a lawful excuse.

A 'lawful excuse' could include having the weapon for work, sport, recreation or a weapons collection, display or exhibition. Lawful excuse does not include self-defence.

You can only possess or carry some weapons if you do so safely.

You also can�t carry weapons like flick knives, daggers, butterfly knives or knuckle knives, swords, nunchakus, knuckle-dusters, shanghais, blow guns, imitation firearms, capsicum spray, slingshots, weighted or studded gloves, throwing stars or catapults without a special exemption or permission from police.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:29

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/928401267445022720

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:31

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/928401267445022720

I hope one of the lasting effects of the Trump presidency is to sour the public on the idea of government officials being super rich fuckers. If every president from now on was Jimmy Carter-poor, we'd be all the better for it.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:33

Deptfordx: Dec 23, 2013

Same in the UK.

You can't carry a knife* around in public unless you have a valid reason.

E.g. need for work purpose etc.

*with a blade longer than 3 inches.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:33

mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

They're all world war 1 and 2 rifles and I collect them for their historical value and significance.

Heck I don't even think that should count. Nobody is going postal with a Garand. Might as well regulate flintlocks.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:33

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/antifa_ne/status/928392989298384897

Was about to post this in USPol, but they're a little bit preoccupied right now. So I'll just share this in the Trump thread, where nazis get covered, like this story featuring a nazi, where...

hot Nazi terrorist on Nazi terrorist action?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:36

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

Dejawesp posted:

In fact Finish people are probably the single most openly racist people in the world. To the point where Finish people living in Sweden openly disapprove of their children race-mixing with Swedes.

As a non-Scandinavian I find this funny as all hell.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:38

Zwabu: Aug 7, 2006

So Va votes for its statehouse again in 2019, ahead of the 2020 census and gerrymander, right?

So even if the Dems wind up even or a seat down this time, they can get the majority in 2019 and undo the current gerrymander, right?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:39

Caros: May 14, 2008

I'd be curious what 'radioactive materials' they are going on about. Because I've seen the feds charge people for having radioactive materials when it is poo poo like americium-241 out of a smoke detector.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:41

birds: Jun 28, 2008

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/antifa_ne/status/928392989298384897

Was about to post this in USPol, but they're a little bit preoccupied right now. So I'll just share this in the Trump thread, where nazis get covered, like this story featuring a nazi, where...

uhhh wait, so this guy is a nazi who practices islam? am i reading this correctly?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:42

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

mdemone posted:

Heck I don't even think that should count. Nobody is going postal with a Garand. Might as well regulate flintlocks.

Andrew Brannan killed officer Kyle Dinkheller with an M1 carbine. They still use that dash cam video in training cops to this day.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:43

Zwabu: Aug 7, 2006

The group's name is ATOMwaffen, eh?

There was radioactive material at the murder scene, eh?

The killer claims his buddies were trying to make an atomic device, eh?

The police say his claims are totally fantasy, eh?

:thunk:

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:44

48 Hour Boner: May 26, 2005; I think something's wrong with this thing

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You also can�t carry weapons like flick knives, daggers, butterfly knives or knuckle knives, swords, nunchakus, knuckle-dusters, shanghais, blow guns, imitation firearms, capsicum spray, slingshots, weighted or studded gloves, throwing stars or catapults without a special exemption or permission from police.

Well I guess we'll have to outlaw catapults and throwing stars* then!

*which, as we all know, were outlawed during the public backlash against throwing star porn.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:44

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Caros posted:

I'd be curious what 'radioactive materials' they are going on about. Because I've seen the feds charge people for having radioactive materials when it is poo poo like americium-241 out of a smoke detector.

To be fair that's what many morons would also use for a dirty bomb

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:44

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

birds posted:

uhhh wait, so this guy is a nazi who practices islam? am i reading this correctly?

he converted to islam, also he was trained in survival tactics from age 14 in the forests of north florida so maybe don't take what this dude claims as truth unless you want to find out the hard way about his expert bow hunting and dark kumate skills

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:44

Caros: May 14, 2008

Zwabu posted:

So Va votes for its statehouse again in 2019, ahead of the 2020 census and gerrymander, right?

So even if the Dems wind up even or a seat down this time, they can get the majority in 2019 and undo the current gerrymander, right?

Courts ruled the VA gerrymander unconstitutional, so in 2019, barring a flip in the ruling (which I think can't happen anymore) the districts will be rewritten and the democrats will sweep the VA house now that they don't have to go +9 to get a statistical tie.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:45

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Party Plane Jones posted:

Andrew Brannan killed officer Kyle Dinkheller with an M1 carbine. They still use that dash cam video in training cops to this day.

m1 carbine can hold anywhere from 10 to 30 rounds. A Garand is hard capped at 8.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:45

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

birds posted:

uhhh wait, so this guy is a nazi who practices islam? am i reading this correctly?

Dude killed two fellow Nazis who were friends with a charismatic Muslim Nazi, missed the leader dude, then wandered across the street to a smoke shop and held people at gunpoint

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:47

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

Party Plane Jones posted:

Andrew Brannan killed officer Kyle Dinkheller with an M1 carbine. They still use that dash cam video in training cops to this day.

We had to watch that video as part of my CPL class.

It was, uh, scarring. I still think about it a lot.

CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Nov 9, 2017

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:47

Bueno Papi: May 10, 2009

Zwabu posted:

So Va votes for its statehouse again in 2019, ahead of the 2020 census and gerrymander, right?

So even if the Dems wind up even or a seat down this time, they can get the majority in 2019 and undo the current gerrymander, right?

Yes and yes. Frankly, the Democrats should return the favor and gerrymander the Republicans out. Republicans have already weaponized the electoral process. No reason to maintain the veneer of statesmanship when the other side is willing to go to such lengths to maintain their minority-majority status.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:50

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Bueno Papi posted:

Yes and yes. Frankly, the Democrats should return the favor and gerrymander the Republicans out. Republicans have already weaponized the electoral process. No reason to maintain the veneer of statesmanship when the other side is willing to go to such lengths to maintain their minority-majority status.

Or continue doing what we can to dismantle gerrymandering as a concept and the left can just win because it's a fair fight and the right is significantly outnumbered.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:53

TheScott2K: Oct 26, 2003; I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Bueno Papi posted:

Yes and yes. Frankly, the Democrats should return the favor and gerrymander the Republicans out. Republicans have already weaponized the electoral process. No reason to maintain the veneer of statesmanship when the other side is willing to go to such lengths to maintain their minority-majority status.

As great as that would feel, I would rather see an overall reform of the districting process.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:53

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

Bueno Papi posted:

Yes and yes. Frankly, the Democrats should return the favor and gerrymander the Republicans out. Republicans have already weaponized the electoral process. No reason to maintain the veneer of statesmanship when the other side is willing to go to such lengths to maintain their minority-majority status.

Wouldn't the use of an impartial, independent elections body to establish districts on the basis of ~equal population be anti-GOP gerrymandering? :v:

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:54

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

DreamShipWrecked posted:

We had to watch that video as part of my CPL class.

It was, uh, scarring. I still think about it a lot.

That's why it's popular!

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:56

CAPS LOCK BROKEN: Feb 1, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

WeAreTheRomans posted:

both of those numbers are truly shameful, and it's sad how normalised this one particular weirdo behaviour has become in your country

No more weird than the nazis encouraging firearm ownership among germans because of their violent and militaristic culture

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:56

Your Boy Fancy: Feb 7, 2003; by Cyrano4747

Bueno Papi posted:

Yes and yes. Frankly, the Democrats should return the favor and gerrymander the Republicans out. Republicans have already weaponized the electoral process. No reason to maintain the veneer of statesmanship when the other side is willing to go to such lengths to maintain their minority-majority status.

They shouldn�t do that at all!

If they can make districts that level the playing field (just in time for the SCOTUS case that might abolish gerrymandering / finally set metrics as such) then we stay the canary in the democratic coal mine. gently caress the games, man. Let�s actually build a government for once.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:56

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

TheScott2K posted:

As great as that would feel, I would rather see an overall reform of the districting process.

As others have said, we should do both. Reform the process as much as we can while exploiting the system as is exists while it is there.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:56

CAPS LOCK BROKEN: Feb 1, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

Your Boy Fancy posted:

They shouldn�t do that at all!

If they can make districts that level the playing field (just in time for the SCOTUS case that might abolish gerrymandering / finally set metrics as such) then we stay the canary in the democratic coal mine. gently caress the games, man. Let�s actually build a government for once.

Politics is a winner takes all kind of game, modern liberals are too squeamish about poo poo like decorum and propriety to ever be a real force in America

# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:58

Inferior Third Season: Jan 15, 2005

theflyingorc posted:

Or continue doing what we can to dismantle gerrymandering as a concept and the left can just win because it's a fair fight and the right is significantly outnumbered.

Democrats going overboard with their own gerrymandering is probably the quickest route to dismantling it. It's like how when black people started walking around with guns in California, it got Reagan and the Republicans to implement gun control themselves.

Gerrymandering needs to be taken down on a national, federal level. Individual states that Democrats sporadically win temporarily can't do it themselves.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:00

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

Peven Stan posted:

Politics is a winner takes all kind of game, modern liberals are too squeamish about poo poo like decorum and propriety to ever be a real force in America

Yeah but what happens when we have to destroy the Democratic party in thirty years to get an actually good party in

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:00

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Your Boy Fancy posted:

They shouldn’t do that at all!

If they can make districts that level the playing field (just in time for the SCOTUS case that might abolish gerrymandering / finally set metrics as such) then we stay the canary in the democratic coal mine. gently caress the games, man. Let’s actually build a government for once.

Gerrymander the gently caress out of it so the piss babies want to get rid of gerrymandering all together. Make it seem like it's their idea.

Works with toddlers at least.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:00

Blue Footed Booby: Oct 4, 2006; got those happy feet

Deptfordx posted:

Same in the UK.

You can't carry a knife* around in public unless you have a valid reason.

E.g. need for work purpose etc.

*with a blade longer than 3 inches.

The three inch part is reasonable, but from what I understand you also can't have any kind of locking blade or spring assist, so you're forced to carry crappy swivel blades that'll close while you use them and are hard to open one handed.

That, or trust any random police officer to have a reasonable understanding of "valid reason." For all I know that works just fine in the UK.

I know exactly how it would work out with US police, and who would get nailed.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:01

OldMold: Jul 29, 2003; old cold gold mold

quote:

capsicum spray

Wait you cant even carry pepper spray for self defense in Australia? What *is* legal for self defense in aus then?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:02

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Inferior Third Season posted:

Democrats going overboard with their own gerrymandering is probably the quickest route to dismantling it. It's like how when black people started walking around with guns in California, it got Reagan and the Republicans to implement gun control themselves.

They did it in North Carolina for decades, and a counter wave is why we're a Republican hellhole now. It isn't worth it in the long term.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:03

TheScott2K: Oct 26, 2003; I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Blue Footed Booby posted:

The three inch part is reasonable, but from what I understand you also can't have any kind of locking blade or spring assist, so you're forced to carry crappy swivel blades that'll close while you use them and are hard to open one handed.

That, or trust any random police officer to have a reasonable understanding of "valid reason." For all I know that works just fine in the UK.

I know exactly how it would work out with US police, and who would get nailed.

Stop carrying weapons around, you're not John Wick

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:04

bird cooch: Jan 19, 2007

The USPOL thread is why we have Trump.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:05

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

DaveWoo posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheJusticeDept/status/928391663516635136

That, uh, second photo there

Yeah how that one black guy and woman get in there?

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:06

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

bird cooch posted:

The USPOL thread is why we have Trump.

To those not browsing it right now there are literally people defending Stalin's forced penal labor system while at the same time making GBS threads on Dems for not doing enough to stop private prisons.

Its loving weird.

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ded redd: Aug 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

Your Boy Fancy posted:

They shouldn�t do that at all!

If they can make districts that level the playing field (just in time for the SCOTUS case that might abolish gerrymandering / finally set metrics as such) then we stay the canary in the democratic coal mine. gently caress the games, man. Let�s actually build a government for once.

This is the kind of thing you say when you don't have one of two permissible political parties whose master plan includes repealing the 17th amendment, YBF.

# ? Nov 9, 2017 01:06

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