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I remember first stumbling onto flash being used for streaming video, and it just worked. No need to install bloated video plugins like realplayer, it just used a plugin that was installed on most PCs already.
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I remember downloading the Shockwave Player or something? I remember it being green with gears and wheels and other such mid-late 90's UI hell garbage. It was for downloading your Flash objects so you can enjoy them offline! I think I pretty much only used it to play some Joe Cartoon game where you torpedo dolphins.
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Nov 8, 2017 17:05
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Mak0rz posted:I remember downloading the Shockwave Player or something? I remember it being green with gears and wheels and other such mid-late 90's UI hell garbage. It was for downloading your Flash objects so you can enjoy them offline! Oh god Shockmachine kicked so much rear end for 11-year-old me. And yes, that's a good example of gaudy-rear end turn-of-the-millennium skeuomorphic UI design. 
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Nov 8, 2017 17:21
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Holy gently caress the shockmachine.
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Nov 8, 2017 17:41
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Noir: A Shadowy Thriller was made in Macromedia Director. I thought the demo I got on a disk years ago was cool so I bought the full game as an adult. It was pretty underwhelming.
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Nov 8, 2017 17:48
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Negrostrike posted:Oh god Shockmachine kicked so much rear end for 11-year-old me. And yes, that's a good example of gaudy-rear end turn-of-the-millennium skeuomorphic UI design. I remember this, it was great to be able to play some flash games offline like this, being stuck on expensive dial-up.
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Negrostrike posted:Oh god Shockmachine kicked so much rear end for 11-year-old me. And yes, that's a good example of gaudy-rear end turn-of-the-millennium skeuomorphic UI design. Oh yes that's the poo poo right there. I forgot about South Park clips. Had a library of those too
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Nov 8, 2017 19:11
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Shockwave was pretty awesome. There were a lot of fun shockwave games.
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Cojawfee posted:Shockwave was pretty awesome. There were a lot of fun shockwave games. Does anyone remember a shockwave games site called Virtual Arcade 1.0? It's such a generic name that I haven't been able to look it up, but it was like a hallway you could walk down and there were rooms filled with arcade cabinets, which you could click on and play games. Ring any bells? That was my poo poo back then.
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Nov 9, 2017 02:42
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no broccoli please posted:Does anyone remember a shockwave games site called Virtual Arcade 1.0? It's such a generic name that I haven't been able to look it up, but it was like a hallway you could walk down and there were rooms filled with arcade cabinets, which you could click on and play games. Ring any bells? That was my poo poo back then. Something like that got me grounded from using the internet after my family kept missing important calls due to me hogging the phone line.
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Nov 9, 2017 02:47
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The brand charter school I went to from 3rd-5th grade was making a big push for using technology. So they sent everyone home with a Super Mac that was configured so you could VPN onto the school intranet. Except right off the bat they didn't block you from going to external sites through the VPN. My first time on the real internet in 1997 tied up our phone line for 5 hours. I mostly looked at Legend of Zelda fansites. On top of not configuring the VPN to keep you on the intranet they also didn't have any sort of site blocker running until at the least the end of the first year. Nothing really bad got seen as far as I know. The teachers didn't want kids on the JNCO site because there was some slightly racy stuff on that. Kids were clicking on ads with women in bikinis that said "Come play with me", though I'm not sure where that really took you. The one thing I did see was 1997's Zelda.com, at the time it was a porn site, and very much not owned by Nintendo. The welcome page had a couple of heavily pierced women french kissing.
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Nov 9, 2017 02:58
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The Shockwave game I miss is a game where you dropped water balloons on people. I think the character's name was 3-D Joe.
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Casimir Radon posted:The one thing I did see was 1997's Zelda.com, at the time it was a porn site, and very much not owned by Nintendo. The welcome page had a couple of heavily pierced women french kissing. That's the weirdest thing about the late 90s internet. My older brother tells stories about finding discarded porno mags in alleys and treasuring them, but me? Man, the porn found ME.
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Nov 9, 2017 07:10
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I found a destroyed porn magazine in my alley once. But even in 2002 I already knew where to get my fix online.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I've never been completely clear on why the browser plugin used to be called Shockwave Flash. Did some of the capabilities get merged into Flash at some point, or was it just really idiotic branding? If I wanted to view both Flash and Shockwave content, would I need to install plugins for both Shockwave Flash and... Shockwave Shockwave? Idiotic branding. I think initially Macromedia had "Director", the tool you used to make the content, and then you released it as an executable which was a "Projector". Eventually they made a browser plugin called "Shockwave". Then Flash came along and I think they started out calling the plugin "Shockwave Flash", then eventually renamed the "Shockwave" plugin to "Shockwave for Director" with the Flash one being "Shockwave for Flash", then eventually the latter became just "Flash" once nobody gave a poo poo about Directory anymore. Maybe I don't remember all that stupid crap properly though.
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Nov 9, 2017 10:11
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Grand Prize Winner posted:That's the weirdest thing about the late 90s internet. My older brother tells stories about finding discarded porno mags in alleys and treasuring them, but me? Man, the porn found ME. If your first porn site wasn't Whitehouse.com, you're too young. 
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Nov 9, 2017 13:02
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I seem to recall that the main purpose for Shockwave was making interactive content for CD-ROMs. MULTIMEDIA!!  Flash made it possible to get animations and poo poo on your website that made it look like a cd-rom menu.
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Nov 9, 2017 13:20
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I went to screenshots.com when I was 10 because I wanted to see screenshots of cool new video games and then I got banned from the school network for a whole term.
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Nov 9, 2017 13:27
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The Big Word posted:I went to screenshots.com when I was 10 because I wanted to see screenshots of cool new video games and then I got banned from the school network for a whole term. We used to check out rotten.com at school all the time. Nobody got in trouble at all.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:27
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Lol just lol if you weren’t looking at slutpost.com in the late 90s because your dialup was too slow to see anything but pictures.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Idiotic branding. This seems like it should be right because now that you mention it I definitely remember seeing a lot of "Projector" stuff on CD-ROMs that all used the same generic projector icon.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:13
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Data Graham posted:I seem to recall that the main purpose for Shockwave was making interactive content for CD-ROMs. The best use of flash remains the Homestar Runner site.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:39
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rotten.com, steakandcheese.com, wwf.com and newgrounds.com were my most visited websites in the late 90's. Steakandcheese is just a porn website now unfortunately, or it was the last time I looked a few years ago.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:52
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Newgrounds is still up and active. I still get a monthly email from them. I remember playing the Assassin flash games back in the day.
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Fil5000 posted:The best use of flash remains the Homestar Runner site. The transition to YouTube really diminished the whole experience since you can't really do Easter eggs on it. And in the case of HSR, flash navigation managed to be approximately good, although it still took forever to navigate over dialup. I think going through the Strong Bad archive was when I first realized you can just change the number in the URL if it's sequential, avoiding the long reload time for the menu.
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Also I'm pretty sure my first tubgirl sighting was in the computer lab at school.Skoll posted:Newgrounds is still up and active. I still get a monthly email from them. I remember playing the Assassin flash games back in the day. Yeah I still go there every now and then to see if there are any new games worth wasting a half hour on.
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I'm actually trying to find the Assassin webpage and can't.  They have a portal of it on Newgrounds but I don't see the original games from the 90s in it.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:This seems like it should be right because now that you mention it I definitely remember seeing a lot of "Projector" stuff on CD-ROMs that all used the same generic projector icon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPyFa9zxSgU After MacroMind became Macromedia the program was re-branded as Director and became the go-to development kit for the boom in CD-Roms. Then a plugin was developed in 1995 for Netscape called Shockwave Flash came in around 1996/7 and Macromedia added an export format which also was confusingly called Shockwave Flash (.swf). Flash also adopted Director's delivery method of having a player for content to be viewed outside of the program or without the need for a plugin. However Flash as a CD-ROM content creation tool was pretty basic to begin with and needed third party tools (like Flash Jester) to enable linking of files. Proper video streaming and playback didn't come in until 2006 However Director has a bigger filesize footprint and this lead to it becoming unpopular online. Flash used what the developers dubbed "the lego method" where assets in the library could be duplicated without any additional increase in memory that when combined with it's vector graphics made it compact enough for the emerging internet of 1996.
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Pham Nuwen posted:The transition to YouTube really diminished the whole experience since you can't really do Easter eggs on it. And in the case of HSR, flash navigation managed to be approximately good, although it still took forever to navigate over dialup. I think going through the Strong Bad archive was when I first realized you can just change the number in the URL if it's sequential, avoiding the long reload time for the menu. Yeah, there was a lot of fun to be had in hovering your mouse around to find the hidden stuff. I have the email DVDs and it's really not the same.
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gently caress Samsung. Seriously, gently caress Samsung. I'm staying in an Airbnb apartment with some friends, and we want to play some music. So I think, why not just plug my phone into the TV, and play it back from there instead of the lovely phone speakers. Nope, "no input detected" since we're not connecting a video source. gently caress "smart TVs". gently caress "smart" anything.
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On the subject of newgrounds, I'm actually really surprised that a stick fighter movie/series wasn't mate
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Fil5000 posted:Yeah, there was a lot of fun to be had in hovering your mouse around to find the hidden stuff. I have the email DVDs and it's really not the same.  you could also hold down Tab and it would highlight any hidden clickable areas.
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Mak0rz posted:Also I'm pretty sure my first tubgirl sighting was in the computer lab at school. I remember outing myself during one of my classes around 2005 when some kid in my computer lab yells across the room to his buddy and tells him, "go to meatspin.com!" and I responded with a quick "Do not go to meatspin!". Then when the original kid claimed it was Dope singing the song I felt compelled to correct him and told him it was Dead or Alive, not the Dope cover. Kirk Vikernes has a new favorite as of 17:55 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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KozmoNaut posted:gently caress Samsung. Seriously, gently caress Samsung. You're not wrong that it's annoying but I encountered that on my first hdtv. It's just kind of a byproduct of the switch to digital. Its probably going to be true of any hdtv you come across, not just "smart" ones. You could probably get away with it in an old analog one from the 90s but analog hdtvs are a rare and strange beast that you're not likely to encounter at an airbnb. But hey, if you're the kind of guy who packs a headphone to rca cable on a vacation then maybe the answer is just for you to upgrade to a usb-c (or lightning if you have an iphone) to hdmi adapter.
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An analog input should just play whatever it's sent, period.
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KozmoNaut posted:An analog input should just play whatever it's sent, period. How many pure analog inputs are you gonna find on your average smart TV?
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KozmoNaut posted:An analog input should just play whatever it's sent, period. Analog input? Did you find a USB-C to RCA converter or something?
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Non-crippled phones have analog headphone outputs.Arivia posted:How many pure analog inputs are you gonna find on your average smart TV? AV in aka composite video. Also VGA, which usually has an analog audio input.
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Mak0rz posted:We used to check out rotten.com at school all the time. Nobody got in trouble at all. My high school's IT was run by student volunteers. Result: teachers' computers had porn/blacklisted websites blocked, while every computer lab was 100% open. That lasted all four years I was there.
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KozmoNaut posted:AV in aka composite video. Also VGA, which usually has an analog audio input. I'm gonna take a guess that your modern smart TV doesn't have a pure analog path from a composite input, and definitely not fault it for asking for video input on the VGA input (why does it have one anyway in TYOOL 2017?)
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