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odiv posted:People who obsess about keming need to relax. Brilliant
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Well the LGS I normally played at has decided to shoot itself in the foot. Things have been going great there with magic events 5 out of 7 days of the week, with multiple events on Saturday. Someone posted a picture of a sign on the wall to a Facebook group. It showed that they are changing prize support to be much flatter by doing pack per win instead of the previous 8 packs/$32 credit for 4-0 and 5 packs for 3-1 with a participation pack for everyone. The reaction was extremely negative and one of the store owners deleted the post. Rumor mill has it that this decision was made by 1 owner and a manager and the other owner is leaving over this. So far there has been no acknowledgement of the post being deleted or prize support changing. They were getting 20-30 on a regular basis for Friday and Saturday events but a lot of the regulars were posting about going to different stores. There are 4 or 5 stores within 20 minutes. So I have a feeling turnout is about to become garbage.
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Nov 9, 2017 17:53
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Cactrot posted:Great job, team. the article works for me but is also not very interesting
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Nov 9, 2017 17:55
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:Well the LGS I normally played at has decided to shoot itself in the foot. Things have been going great there with magic events 5 out of 7 days of the week, with multiple events on Saturday. Sounds like the prize support previously was a little too high. Yeah it sucks to drastically change prize support but its kind of a no win situation sometimes.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:00
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Sickening posted:Sounds like the prize support previously was a little too high. Yeah it sucks to drastically change prize support but its kind of a no win situation sometimes. Possibly but they’ve been about doing this level for the past 3 years. The only change has been not having to spend credit the day you win it whereas a year and a half ago you had to spend it immediately.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:10
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The other owner is leaving over that? Sounds like the business has some other problems behind the scenes.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:17
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odiv posted:People who obsess about keming need to relax. i see what you did there
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Nov 9, 2017 18:53
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FreelanceSocialist posted:The other owner is leaving over that? Sounds like the business has some other problems behind the scenes. That is the rumor and it wouldn't surprise me. The owner that is staying has anger issues and drinks constantly. In the past he has done fun things like kick everyone out of the store as soon as the last round finished by screaming at everyone to "get the gently caress out of his store" literally as soon as standings were read and yelling at people for trading instead of buying the cards from him. He has been pretty hands off for the past year or so while the other owner built things back up but I guess things are changing again. I only play there because my friends do but the majority seem to be leaving over this so I will be too.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:56
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:That is the rumor and it wouldn't surprise me. The owner that is staying has anger issues and drinks constantly. In the past he has done fun things like kick everyone out of the store as soon as the last round finished by screaming at everyone to "get the gently caress out of his store" literally as soon as standings were read and yelling at people for trading instead of buying the cards from him. He has been pretty hands off for the past year or so while the other owner built things back up but I guess things are changing again. Where is this magical store located?
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Nov 9, 2017 19:13
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Apparently Wizards is going to offer a limited time play point bundle in time for Iconic Masters draft on MTGO. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/iconic-masters-comes-magic-online This already caused Cardhoarder to drop their ticket buy price to $0.83. Looks like MTGO is going to burn earlier than people thought. https://twitter.com/cardhoarder/status/928676196996538370
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Nov 9, 2017 19:20
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PJOmega posted:Where is this magical store located? Michigan. Thankfully there aren’t a shortage of stores around here.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:21
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moush posted:Apparently Wizards is going to offer a limited time play point bundle in time for Iconic Masters draft on MTGO. Maybe now is when I buy into a modern deck to jam with some upcoming free time....
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Nov 9, 2017 19:26
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ShaneB posted:Maybe now is when I buy into a modern deck to jam with some upcoming free time.... Ticket price is still the same, they just lowered what price they're buying them at because the market is going to crash and they don't want to be stuck with worthless tickets when it does.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:29
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moush posted:Ticket price is still the same, they just lowered what price they're buying them at because the market is going to crash and they don't want to be stuck with worthless tickets when it does. oh the PURCHASE rate. well maybe this means someone will cash out on tix at like .86c each for me to buy.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:30
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:Well the LGS I normally played at has decided to shoot itself in the foot. Things have been going great there with magic events 5 out of 7 days of the week, with multiple events on Saturday. Is this even that drastic of a cut? Old way across 16 players is 35 booster payout (1*8, 3*5, 12 participation), and pack per win across 16 players is 32 boosters across 4 rounds. Sure, it's a cut, but it only really hurts those that are consistently placing at 4-0 or 3-1, and it's a higher payout to those at 2-2. I can see super competitive players disliking it, but people boycotting over it seems excessive. Maybe I'm just used to terrible payout in the UK?
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Nov 9, 2017 19:43
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Cauldron Moose posted:Is this even that drastic of a cut? Old way across 16 players is 35 booster payout (1*8, 3*5, 12 participation), and pack per win across 16 players is 32 boosters across 4 rounds. Sure, it's a cut, but it only really hurts those that are consistently placing at 4-0 or 3-1, and it's a higher payout to those at 2-2. It isn’t. I think most people are made about the flattening of the prize support. This is the 2nd time they’ve flattened it out. It isn’t so bad for standard but modern and legacy used to be top 3 split the credit 50%, 30%, 20% (2 packs worth of credit per player in to the pot). It wasn’t unusual for first place to get $60+ in credit. Then they changed to 4-0, 3-1 format and now pack per win.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:16
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That Sam Black article on SCG today titled "Mastering the Temur Energy Mirror" seems that it should've been renamed to "Don't Play Standard Right Now."
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Nov 9, 2017 21:52
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InterrupterJones posted:That Sam Black article on SCG today titled "Mastering the Temur Energy Mirror" seems that it should've been renamed to "Don't Play Standard Right Now." I like how Maro held onto the energy mechanic so long that he's basically entrenched into the position of defending the mechanic as a good mechanic when it is obviously not a good mechanic design-wise. The way the mechanic is designed Energy is just synergy among permanents that doesn't require anything else to specifically be on the battlefield to gain said synergy. It's a dumb mechanic even if everything wasn't undercosted because actually acquiring energy is trivial and none of the cards are bad enough without energy.
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Nov 9, 2017 21:58
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InterrupterJones posted:That Sam Black article on SCG today titled "Mastering the Temur Energy Mirror" seems that it should've been renamed to "Don't Play Standard Right Now." Ramunap Red still seems fine against it. Though lol at Sam Black's "Chandra is great Turn 4 off servant of the conduit."
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Nov 9, 2017 22:03
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Energy is also a parasitic mechanic. Something they said they hate.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:04
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energy was a good mechanic, flavorful, easy to understand, creates decision trees. all good things. it was great for limited. it's just that "hexproof creature that gets arbitrararly big for four mana", "regular creature that gets arbitrarily big for two mana", "four mana mindslaver with a 13/13 attached to it" were not good designs, also ludicrously pushed mythics like scarab god and Vraska are bad, 3 color decks having essentially perfect mana is bad as well. their design philosophy for standard is awful and if energy didn't exist then everyone would just be complaining about eternalize or snake or some other midrange value pile
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Nov 9, 2017 22:20
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Is the local meta for you guys the same as the PT/GP meta? I feel like I have played against Temur only a handful of times. Most people in my area are are playing janky homebrews and tier 2/3 decks. It's been pretty fun the last few months. Edit: I should say this is for standard FNMs and Showdowns. I have not participated in any of the PTQs
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Nov 9, 2017 22:22
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Yeah - I think people blow stuff way out of proportion. Even the competitive side of my local has maybe two or three Temurs, and I don't think any of them are the 100% full-on cutthroat optimized list.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:24
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Tainen posted:Is the local meta for you guys the same as the PT/GP meta? I feel like I have played against Temur only a handful of times. Most people in my area are are playing janky homebrews and tier 2/3 decks. It's been pretty fun the last few months. FreelanceSocialist posted:Yeah - I think people blow stuff way out of proportion. Even the competitive side of my local has maybe two or three Temurs, and I don't think any of them are the 100% full-on cutthroat optimized list. I must play in the weirdest loving meta then. Local meta is 50% control (either approach or u/b) a couple temur, a couple sultai, a few ramunap red players, one tokens guy, a few brewers, and me on esper gifts. Edit: Gonna do some team trios this weekend with Legacy/Modern/Standard. Should be weird as all hell.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:28
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Yeah - I think people blow stuff way out of proportion. Even the competitive side of my local has maybe two or three Temurs, and I don't think any of them are the 100% full-on cutthroat optimized list. This is all relevant. Some areas are just much larger or more competitive than others. The DFW area for example has like 20 lgs's in driving distance and have a huge variance in everything. InterrupterJones posted:That Sam Black article on SCG today titled "Mastering the Temur Energy Mirror" seems that it should've been renamed to "Don't Play Standard Right Now." I am glad standard is at least playable because its vital for the health of magic. Modern is still king in my area in most of the lgs's.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:28
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Agreed. Something is always best, and there's something to always complain about. We'd be bored as poo poo and complaining if it required a stretch to get 2 colour decks, so they make 2 easy and 3 sometimes easy and sometimes a stretch. We have a jillion answers to graveyards, too late for emrakul but playable against gpg and the scarab god. There's no removal that's so good it's an auto include, which people seem to think is a bad thing. And as usual it all changes every few months anyway.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:29
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My modern meta is all tier decks. That's all I can speak to. HTH.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:30
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Can someone explain where that phrase came from? It pisses me off. Sorry I don't mean to call you out specifically Shane. Tier what??? Tier 1? Tier 1.5? Garbage Tier? bleh.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:33
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longtusk cub: worse or better than wild nacatl
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Nov 9, 2017 22:33
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Can someone explain where that phrase came from? It pisses me off. Sorry I don't mean to call you out specifically Shane. Especially in modern. At this point I don't even know what is classified as a brew anymore.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:35
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STONE COLD 64 posted:longtusk cub: worse or better than wild nacatl Well it's the sort card I hate in limited (early snowball). Whilst Nacatl isn't.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:36
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Can someone explain where that phrase came from? It pisses me off. Sorry I don't mean to call you out specifically Shane. I'm always calling people out on meaningless dumb lingo in this thread so I'm cool with it. I say "tier" when I mean "any deck on a tier"/"non-brew". Basically a known good or decent deck.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:38
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"tier" = "netdeck"
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Nov 9, 2017 22:39
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Bizarre mangling of language (My intuition was towards the opposite meaning)
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Nov 9, 2017 22:46
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Tainen posted:Is the local meta for you guys the same as the PT/GP meta? I feel like I have played against Temur only a handful of times. Most people in my area are are playing janky homebrews and tier 2/3 decks. It's been pretty fun the last few months. I have played 5 rounds of standard last week, 5 of those 6 against Temur. Everyone here plays it or 4C because the deck is so cheap.
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Mezzanon posted:I must play in the weirdest loving meta then. Local meta is 50% control (either approach or u/b) a couple temur, a couple sultai, a few ramunap red players, one tokens guy, a few brewers, and me on esper gifts. This is not a weird meta, I've never played in a local FNM/Showdown level tournament that wasn't like 50%+ control. Local grinder guys get off on counterspells.
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Nov 9, 2017 23:31
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Sickening posted:Especially in modern. At this point I don't even know what is classified as a brew anymore. For me, "tiers" in Modern right now are just a way to describe how likely you are to see a given deck at an event, and even then it's highly dependent on the size and location of the event. I haven't seen Burn or Elves at my regular LGS in like a year but my buddy played them back-to-back at FNM last month in the store across town. There's probably at least some correlation between deck popularity and how successful it is but Modern is buck wild right now, especially at smaller events. Hell I nearly went 3-1 at that same FNM with that garbage Enchantress deck.
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Nov 9, 2017 23:53
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The meta at my LGS is super diverse. I feel like everyone there has a pet deck, and they're all different. A good chunk of the tier 1/2 decks are represented, but there's plenty of jank that shows up. I myself run mardu smallpox, and usually top 3, and most people have no idea what's going on with it.
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Nov 10, 2017 00:08
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Scarab God being good in fact rules It is a very cool card and I'm glad it's strong
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C-Euro posted:For me, "tiers" in Modern right now are just a way to describe how likely you are to see a given deck at an event, and even then it's highly dependent on the size and location of the event. I haven't seen Burn or Elves at my regular LGS in like a year but my buddy played them back-to-back at FNM last month in the store across town. There's probably at least some correlation between deck popularity and how successful it is but Modern is buck wild right now, especially at smaller events. Hell I nearly went 3-1 at that same FNM with that garbage Enchantress deck. I dunked modern this week with 42 land swans. loving swans!
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