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I've done my part to keep this community going by re-regging. If my tenbux can delay or prevent a murder-suicide, then I have a moral duty to do so. Am I a hero? Yes, definitely. I am a hero.
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Brother Entropy posted:thanks yall, i'll keep an eye out for it next time there's a sale (i just remembered EOV came out and i can only keep up with one hard kinda-grindy dungeon crawl at a time)
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Bedlamdan posted:I've done my part to keep this community going by re-regging. If my tenbux can delay or prevent a murder-suicide, then I have a moral duty to do so. Am I a hero? Yes, definitely. I am a hero.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:13
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Either Lowtax will figure that SA is a social club, and accept that social clubs survive on recurring dues, or he won't. My money is on "won't," dude is super invested in making it as a comedian.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:17
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Lowtax is pulling in 9000 dollars a year from the SA patreon. He's broke in the 'I don't have a real job and made very bad financial decisions' sense, not in the 'oh god the costs of SA are crushing me' sense.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:21
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Haystack posted:Either Lowtax will figure that SA is a social club, and accept that social clubs survive on recurring dues, or he won't. My money is on "won't," dude is super invested in making it as a comedian. He needs to get a job instead of relying on the forum that paid for his income for the last ten years as a single man but can't as a divorced father. He got enough money to pay for the forums but he's using it all on his loving personal expenses.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:22
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fool_of_sound posted:Lowtax is pulling in 9000 dollars a year from the SA patreon. He's broke in the 'I don't have a real job and made very bad financial decisions' sense, not in the 'oh god the costs of SA are crushing me' sense. What do you think SA's hosting fees are?
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fool_of_sound posted:Lowtax is pulling in 9000 dollars a year from the SA patreon. He's broke in the 'I don't have a real job and made very bad financial decisions' sense, not in the 'oh god the costs of SA are crushing me' sense. Yeah, his patreon is EXACTLY what I'm talking about with the "dude is super invested in making it as a comedian" comment. Look at that loving copy, the forums get third billing and it leads off with grousing about revenues.
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Leperflesh posted:What do you think SA's hosting fees are? For the mostly text-based forum with sub 10k users at any given time? Not almost ten thousand dollars a year. Hosting is not particularly expensive anymore. e: Hell, 5000 bucks a year get mid-sized business level hosting. fool of sound fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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Nov 9, 2017 19:47
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If Lowtax actually announced that he needed more money to keep the forums running and advertised his Patreon at the same time he would probably get quite a bit more. Like, I would definitely pay  a month or whatever to keep posting here.
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Haystack posted:Either Lowtax will figure that SA is a social club, and accept that social clubs survive on recurring dues, or he won't. My money is on "won't," dude is super invested in making it as a comedian. Exactly. Just collect 3$ a month or 30 bucks a year (if paid in advance) and go hog wild. Jeez. Also I didn't know the dude got divorced, that's too bad.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:02
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Exactly. Just collect 3$ a month or 30 bucks a year (if paid in advance) and go hog wild. Jeez. I would only pay that if avatar changes, (working) archives and platinum were for free.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:09
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Plutonis posted:I would only pay that if avatar changes, (working) archives and platinum were for free. Avatars should probably still be paid. The other two are absolutely part of it, yes.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:12
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Plutonis posted:I would only pay that if avatar changes, (working) archives and platinum were for free. I will pay this if Lowtax also goes on Cum Town.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:49
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Exactly. Just collect 3$ a month or 30 bucks a year (if paid in advance) and go hog wild. Jeez. He divorced a while ago. He's remarried and had a third kid since then.
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fool_of_sound posted:For the mostly text-based forum with sub 10k users at any given time? Not almost ten thousand dollars a year. Hosting is not particularly expensive anymore. It depends what kind of hosting you use. It would not surprise me at all to discover that Lowtax was still using some pre-cloud, BYOhardware colo with archaic bandwidth pricing.
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Nov 9, 2017 21:05
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If only we could return to the halcyon days of GREAT GOON HOSTING DEALZZZ
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Man I remember the days of Lowtax having to fight with hosting places just to get them to believe he needed 1TB of space. 
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Nuns with Guns posted:He divorced a while ago. He's remarried and had a third kid since then. Well, good for him then!
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Nov 9, 2017 22:09
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I was going to comment further but SA is just way too happy to keep on redirecting me to a page where I can get a $100 dollar gift card on Amazon.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/tenderdnd/status/928605949060935680 This is my new favorite twitter. https://twitter.com/hawkesdraw/status/917552962997645314
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So Dragon Kings, Nightmares Beneath and Index Card RPG are up on bundle of holding. I'm not buying another bundle, but they've piqued my interest. Can anyone tell me anything about them other than 'they're OSR'?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Well, good for him then! Yeah, it's good that he's got a happy family.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Yeah, it's good that he's got a happy family. In a way, maybe we're all his family 
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Tasoth posted:So Dragon Kings, Nightmares Beneath and Index Card RPG are up on bundle of holding. I'm not buying another bundle, but they've piqued my interest. Can anyone tell me anything about them other than 'they're OSR'? The Nightmares Underneath is a really good game, there's a free artless version available, so go give it a look
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Covok posted:Castle and Crusades is up on the bundle of holding. Is it any good or utter shite or something in-between? One of the creators is banned from RPGnet for saying that the projects were real-life dungeons complete with monsters and that he'd like to round up some friends with guns and go adventuring. Your choice to take it from there, I suppose.
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Covok posted:Castle and Crusades is up on the bundle of holding. Is it any good or utter shite or something in-between? I gave it a light read long ago, and skimming it just now, it still strikes me as modestly cleaned-up AD&D2. Which, eh. Arivia posted:One of the creators is banned from RPGnet for saying that the projects were real-life dungeons complete with monsters and that he'd like to round up some friends with guns and go adventuring. Whoa, yeah, I forgot about that. That, too.
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Arivia posted:One of the creators is banned from RPGnet for saying that the projects were real-life dungeons complete with monsters and that he'd like to round up some friends with guns and go adventuring. gently caress..
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Arivia posted:One of the creators is banned from RPGnet for saying that the projects were real-life dungeons complete with monsters and that he'd like to round up some friends with guns and go adventuring. This was literally a joke John Tynes and Greg Costikyan were making like twenty years ago to get people to rethink dungeon crawling as a core RPG activity, christ. e: Although in their case it was phrased as "you should think about what dungeons are the fantasy equivalent of" rather than "you know what would be cool?"
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Even besides that lovely joke that one of the authors made, Castles and Crusades is mostly AD&D except: * it uses BAB and ascending AC rather than THAC0 and descending AC * saving throws are per ability score (as in D&D 5e) rather than per effect-category * there's a proprietary skill system It's those last two points that turned me off from the system. It does something like set a target number of either 14 if it's your class's "primary stat", or 18 if it's not, and then add a number to reflect the additional difficulty of the spell-effect/skill-check, and then the player rolls a d20 and adds their character level plus their ability modifier or something. I just thought it was way too fiddly compared to the standard way TSR-era saving throws are done, and compared to the way you can do a straight d20-roll-under for skill checks. If I wanted to play AD&D, there are better/clearer retroclones.
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So what are the best/most interesting retroclones anyways? I've been wanting to give some a whirl but there are a huge number to choose from.
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Terrible Opinions posted:So what are the best/most interesting retroclones anyways? I've been wanting to give some a whirl but there are a huge number to choose from. Purely personal opinions: 1). Most of Kevin Crawford's catalogue is pretty choice, though some of his games kind of strain what it means to be a "retroclone" like Godbound, but they're all six-attribute and old monster manual compatible. Red Tide is a game specifically designed to be played with one player and one GM, Stars Without Number is sandbox sci-fi, Godbound is OSR Exalted But Not poo poo, Spears of the Dawn is African fantasy that isn't a heap of lazy stereotypes. 2). Beyond the Wall & Other Adventures is a retroclone with a focus on a specific tone, namely that all characters are young members of a village about to go on their very first adventures out, well, beyond the walls. It's low magic, not very grimdark, more along an Ursula K. LeGuin sort of vibe than R.E. Howard. You have three base classes, then some playbook-like concepts like Witch's Prentice and Would-Be-Knight, and the adventure scenarios aren't all about kicking in doors and looting treasure but, I mean, it's still a retroclone at heart and mechanically works very similarly. 3). Darker Dungeons is a free BECMI-alike that mainly just changes and consolidates some resolution mechanics to make it smoother to run, it's a quick and easy "I want to run an old-school D&D-alike game without any frills" thing, but I can't seem to find a link to the pdfs right now because I guess the creator is in the process of moving things to a new site or something.
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Kai Tave posted:Godbound is OSR Exalted But Not poo poo It literally brought back Exalted 2E style perfect defenses and perfect attacks, with all the problems they entail, except you roll a d20 instead of d10s. Kai Tave posted:Spears of the Dawn is African fantasy that isn't a heap of lazy stereotypes. Stars Without Number was also good.
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Terrible Opinions posted:So what are the best/most interesting retroclones anyways? I've been wanting to give some a whirl but there are a huge number to choose from. Nightmares Underneath by Johnstone Metzger is pretty good. It's got an Arabian theme, and the idea is that dungeons are portals/incursions from a nightmare plane. There's a free version on DriveThru if you want to check it out.
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There’s a lot of retro-clones that aren’t d&d rules based that are really cool, like torchbearer, dungeon Crawl Classics, World of Dungeons, stuff like that.
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Terrible Opinions posted:So what are the best/most interesting retroclones anyways? I've been wanting to give some a whirl but there are a huge number to choose from. "Pure" retroclones that are straight adaptations of existing text: Swords & Wizardry for Original D&D Iron Falcon for OD&D + Greyhawk supplement Labyrinth Lord for Basic/Expert D&D Dark Dungeons/Darker Dungeons for Rules Cyclopedia OSRIC for AD&D 1st Edition For Gold & Glory for AD&D 2nd Edition (also goon-made) Games that are "based" on retroclones, but have their own style/subgenre/gimmick: Basic Fantasy is Basic/Expert D&D, but uses attack bonuses/ascending AC, so is a little more user-friendly in that regard There's Always A Chance converts Basic/Expert D&D into a unified d20-roll-under system. It has a special place in my heart because it's the first game I really ran a long campaign under when I was new to the hobby. Plus it's goon-made. Scarlet Heroes converts Basic/Expert D&D into a game that can be played solo, or with a DM + only one other player set-up. Castles & Crusades uses the D&D 3rd Edition framework to try and reinvent AD&D 1st Edition Crypts and Things uses the Swords & Wizardry framework to set the game in a Conan-esque, swords-and-sorcery world Beyond the Wall uses the Basic/Expert D&D framework for a sort of pastoral, bucolic setting with young adventurers exploring from their village. It gets a shout-out for its use of PBTA-style playbooks to facilitate character creation and play. The Big Brown Book converts OD&D into a system that's driven entirely by d6-rolls, plus it's goon-made. Stars Without Number uses the Basic/Expert D&D framework for a "hard sci-fi" type game heavily resembling Traveller. Other Dust uses the Basic/Expert D&D framework for a post-apocalyptic sci-fi setting (that's also in the same universe as Stars Without Number). Silent Legions uses the Basic/Expert D&D framework for a Call-of-Cthulhu-type investigative game about unspeakable Lovecraftian horrors. Mutant Future uses the Labyrinth Lord framework for a post-apocalyptic sci-fi setting, but one that's more "gonzo/wacky" and is closer to Gamma World and older sci-fi tropes as opposed to, say, the Fallout kind of gritty post-apocalypse Spears of the Dawn uses the Basic/Expert D&D framework for a Fantasy Africa game that isn't racist. Searchers of the Unknown is loosely based on OD&D, but is notable for being a game that fits on a single sheet, and takes enough liberties with the rules to be a game that allows for dungeon-crawling without being nearly as punishing as our usual idea of D&D. Dungeon Crawl Classics uses the D&D 3rd Edition framework for to recreate old-school dungeon-crawls, and especially ones with very deadly traps, gonzo monsters and critical hit tables. There's actually a lot of retroclones, but these are the ones that I feel comfortable recommending as good games in and of themselves.
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