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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Lightning Lord posted:

Someone earlier asked what Marvel creators we'd like to see at DC, I'm too lazy and on mobile to look up who but my answer is the Kieron Gillen-Jamie McKelvie team. On the Legion.

I want Hickman on LOSH more than anything but I'd take KG/JM on Teen Titans.

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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I was gonna say "I'd read a Bat-Friends comic in Bendis' style" and then I saw the news about his deal.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Bendis on Catwoman would be a good one I think. Been a while since she's had an ongoing and with the engagement she's primed for higher profile stuff again.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
I would actually really like him on something like Detective but I wouldn't want to shift Tynion (or King, even more so) to do it.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

purple death ray posted:

Bendis on Catwoman would be a good one I think. Been a while since she's had an ongoing and with the engagement she's primed for higher profile stuff again.

Well....


She's dying so yeah, that's kind of unlikely

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Rhyno posted:

She's dying so yeah, that's kind of unlikely

Where'd you get that from?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lollllll if that's true I'm done with DC for a while I think

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Kind of surprised that no-one is talking about Batman Lost and how Morrison-esque it is. It is a time travel Batman book taking all the craziness of Morrison's run and bringing them forward again, and if you are a fan of Morrison's run I highly recommended the one shot.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Yeah Scott definitely read The Return of Bruce Wayne between writing Metal issues and got real excited.

nofather
Aug 15, 2014
The whole addition of Nyssa was lukewarm in the comics. It was kicked off by Rucka, I remember expecting something good to come out of it. I think only the Arrow TV show got any real use out of it.

Man, I miss Cassandra. She (and her fans) really got screwed over.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Alan Moore on Doomsday Clock, technically.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

nofather posted:

The whole addition of Nyssa was lukewarm in the comics. It was kicked off by Rucka, I remember expecting something good to come out of it. I think only the Arrow TV show got any real use out of it.

Man, I miss Cassandra. She (and her fans) really got screwed over.

She is currently part of the best bat book

Revol
Aug 1, 2003

EHCIARF EMERC...
EHCIARF EMERC...

bobkatt013 posted:

She is currently part of the best bat book

I once considered myself this subforum's resident Cassandra Cain fan, and... I don't really identify with this character. I appreciate that she's being used, and she's in a title that's doing quite well. At the same time, she's gotten lost on this team. Plus, her codename is loving stupid holy poo poo

With hints of Connor Kent, and the return of Wally West, perhaps part of Doomsday Clock is going to see how more of DC's lost generation are returned to who they once were.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Doomsday Clock will be Geoff Johns taking the throne from Alan Moore

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Covok posted:

Alan Moore on Doomsday Clock, technically.



I agree with him in general but Moore saying that Wein didn't "really" create Swamp Thing feels unusually sour for him in light of Wein's death this year

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Lightning Lord posted:

I agree with him in general but Moore saying that Wein didn't "really" create Swamp Thing feels unusually sour for him in light of Wein's death this year

I think this is old. I wouldn't be shocked if this is from when they first revived the Watchmen.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Lightning Lord posted:

I agree with him in general but Moore saying that Wein didn't "really" create Swamp Thing feels unusually sour for him in light of Wein's death this year

Considering that Wein called out Moore's Watchmen ending ripping off an Outer Limits episode I think there is some kind of ouroboros/chicken and egg BS right there. Also Moore claiming that Johns mining his old stories for new ideas shows an imaginative bankruptcy also rings very hollow.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Hey who wants to hear me complain more about Robinson's WW? Okay great, you asked for it! :parrot:

This whole misbegotten arc is about the great big mysterious Jason, which should have been our first clue that it was going to suck because Jason is a pretty bad character. I hate Jason. Right off the bat his overall design is really blah, and the wonky art in this issue (in this whole arc, really) doesn't do him any favors. He's just...a shirtless guy in rolled up jeans. That's it. Is that really it? That's the sort of thing I'd expect and appreciate from a CW show or from 80s porn, not a major character introduction in this WW series.

The first big thing he does with his powers is to create a tsunami, obviously, because his father is Zeus, god of the ocean!

...oh wait, is that not right? :downs:

Okay, I know that Robinson gave a half-arsed pseudo-scientific explanation for it (he used air pressure to create a tidal wave! Nevermind that tidal waves aren't created by air pressure, but by earthquakes! I guess Jason just never took an elementary school science class), but c'mon. Just have him throw lightning, or create a tornado! The gently caress is this tsunami thing? I almost expected that page to reveal that their father was Poseidon instead of Zeus! It's just super weird that there's like a dozen other powers that a child of Zeus might have, but Robinson handed him the one that's not only least affiliated with Zeus but just flat-out strongly associated with another Olympian. It's like if you called him the son of Hermes but he has fire powers like Hephaestus for some reason. Rick Riordan weeps.

All of which would be way more tolerable if the character were somehow more likable or interesting, but he's just yawn-inducingly bland and cliched at first...and then, out of the blue, as some sort of "twist," it turns out that he's actually working with Grail?...by which I mean that he turns mega whiny and throws a temper tantrum over hurt feelings or something and apparently he hates Diana and blah blah blah. Is this motherfucker really going to be a recurring presence in this book? 'Cuz that's clearly just what Wonder Woman's stories need...a big ol' maladjusted manchild with daddy issues/mommy issues/sister issues/whaaatever. Are we sure no one swapped him out for Superboy-Prime when we weren't looking?

Like, poo poo, I'm obviously no Azz fan, but at this point I'll gladly take a couple of Lennoxes over this assrat. My only hope at this point is that he becomes so unlikable that he gets inevitably retconned or limbo'd whenever the next big reboot comes (c'mon Johns, you know you want to. Do it. Doooo iiiiiiit) but, based on upcoming solicits, Robinson clearly wants to establish some sort of redemption arc for him 'cuz obviously we all read Wonder Woman books because we wanna see some entitled dudeman get to "evolve" at her expense~

K that's all I got for now. Tune in some other day for another episode, entitled "The Letterers Clearly Give No poo poo About This Either," or possibly "Robinson Fails Greek Mythology 101" or perhaps even "Robinson Fucks Up Continuity Established About A Week Ago."

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Revol posted:

I once considered myself this subforum's resident Cassandra Cain fan, and... I don't really identify with this character. I appreciate that she's being used, and she's in a title that's doing quite well. At the same time, she's gotten lost on this team. Plus, her codename is loving stupid holy poo poo

I could never really get past the fact that martial arts was her thing, yet her solo book was drawn by an artist who apparently has only ever had a martial arts movie described to him by telegram.

Revol
Aug 1, 2003

EHCIARF EMERC...
EHCIARF EMERC...

Halloween Jack posted:

I could never really get past the fact that martial arts was her thing, yet her solo book was drawn by an artist who apparently has only ever had a martial arts movie described to him by telegram.

What artist are you talking about? Damian Scott?

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
How is Cosmic Odyssey? Is there any reason to pick up the Deluxe Edition (or wait for the paperback version), or can save some money and pick up an older copy? I found a version old enough to be using the DC Bullet and it's cheaper for sure.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

catlord posted:

How is Cosmic Odyssey? Is there any reason to pick up the Deluxe Edition (or wait for the paperback version), or can save some money and pick up an older copy? I found a version old enough to be using the DC Bullet and it's cheaper for sure.

It's a fun glance at event comics of the time plus sweet ealy Mignola artwork. And it's the story where John Stewart hosed up and they will beat that into the goddamned ground for another 20 years or so.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Rhyno posted:

It's a fun glance at event comics of the time plus sweet ealy Mignola artwork. And it's the story where John Stewart hosed up and they will beat that into the goddamned ground for another 20 years or so.

His name is forger!!

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

catlord posted:

How is Cosmic Odyssey? Is there any reason to pick up the Deluxe Edition (or wait for the paperback version), or can save some money and pick up an older copy? I found a version old enough to be using the DC Bullet and it's cheaper for sure.

I loving love it, but I'm probably in the minority.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

bobkatt013 posted:

His name is forger!!

Forager* :colbert:

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

He deserved to die true or false?

Adnor
Jan 11, 2013

Justice for Daisy

bobkatt013 posted:

He deserved to die true or false?

False :smith:

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Revol posted:

Plus, her codename is loving stupid holy poo poo

The name 'Orphan' has been used so infrequently in Detective that I'm not 100% sure it's been used at all.

edit: Apparently Buzzfeed is about to publish an expose on Superman (and currently, Metal) editor Eddie Berganza.
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/09/eddie-berganza-dc-comics-buzzfeed-publishing-article/
Reminder, there's the 'Dark Side of the Industry' thread for all ya scumbag discussion needs.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Nov 10, 2017

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Orphan is still a better name than Signal. Duke is a cool guy and all, but that yellow costume and that name, ugh.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Revol posted:

What artist are you talking about? Damian Scott?

Yeah. There's a lot to like about his style but he could not compose the kind of action scene a Bat book demands.

nofather
Aug 15, 2014
I don't consider Detective Comics one of the better Bat-books. Way too scattered a story without any resolutions.

Besides, they killed off David Cain. It's (on a much smaller scale) like Batman without Alfred, he was a huge part of her character and the newer version was bad.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

There's a Mera miniseries coming, with a spoiler for the current Aquaman story in the solicit and even directly in the title.
https://www.newsarama.com/37302-mera-gets-her-first-ever-solo-title.html
Writer is still Abnett, but art is by Lan Medina, which is great news

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Nov 10, 2017

AFoolAndHisMoney
Aug 13, 2013

Abnett's Aquaman has really stepped up in quality since Sejic came on for the art.
I'd be up for a Mera mini-series.

Still waiting on Rise of the Seven Seas though.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Rhyno posted:

"Blah Blah, Hickman's endings are trash"


Yeah let's ignore the final issue of his F4 run which is like, the high point against which all final issues of extended runs shall be measured from now until the end of time.







FF gad a great ending. So did his ending on Secret Warriors and his Avengers/Secret Wars magnum opus. Both had amazing endings.

I would love to see Hickman write for DC. I would get whatever he wrote.

Revol
Aug 1, 2003

EHCIARF EMERC...
EHCIARF EMERC...
Bendis' creator-owned Icon books are no longer available for sale on Comixology or Kindle.

That happened really fast.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
You know who I'd love seeing BMB writting at DC that nobody has mentioned yet? Static. They haven't had a comic with him since the New 52 and I loved that cartoon with him from 2003.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

/\ They announced a Static series with the new Milestone launch last month.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/we-finally-have-details-on-the-rebirth-of-milestone-med-1819184981?IR=T

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Teenage Fansub posted:

/\ They announced a Static series with the new Milestone launch last month.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/we-finally-have-details-on-the-rebirth-of-milestone-med-1819184981?IR=T

gently caress yes, I didn't hear about this. Gonna add that to my pull list.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I'm pretty excited for the Milestone relaunch.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Roth posted:

I'm pretty excited for the Milestone relaunch.

Considering the deal they struck fucks over McDuffie's estate, I am not.

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