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Osric posted:What about the Klingons in STD suggests they would be good at infiltrating human society? Their cosmopolitan outlook, subtle approach and mastery of sophisticated subterfuge? I dunno, learning how to be a spy sounds less complicated than, say, traveling faster than light
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I dunno, learning how to be a spy sounds less complicated than, say, traveling faster than light Travelling faster than light is easy as poo poo. You just hit the button on the console and off you go.
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Nov 9, 2017 02:24
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You can just steal technology you don't fully understand which is prob how us huu mons will get off this rock irl (if we do)
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Nov 9, 2017 02:27
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Osric posted:
He and other Klingons ate Captain Georgiou right? Well she was secretly an augment and her augment DNA caused them to mutate into humans
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Nov 9, 2017 02:35
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naem posted:You can just steal technology you don't fully understand which is prob how us huu mons will get off this rock irl (if we do) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXw6hC7hxBA
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Nov 9, 2017 02:36
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Al Borland Corp. posted:He and other Klingons ate Captain Georgiou right? Well she was secretly an augment and her augment DNA caused them to mutate into humans "Oh no, you exposed yourself to radiation for too long, now we have to respool your DNA!"
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Nov 9, 2017 03:19
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counterfeitsaint posted:They're actually super inconsistent with that, it's probably one of the weakest things about TNG/DS9 klingons. Sometimes they're growling at worf as they crawl towards him after getting slapped, and they can't serve on the high council or the head of a great house, but then other times Worf is going on about how klingons consider women their equals and companions in battle, serving as senior officers, and getting awarded medals from the problem with klingons according to worf is that he isn't a real klingon and he doesn't really understand klingon society except in mostly a textbook manner. he wouldn't even murder his own brother. instead they took him to horror doctor bashir who erased his memory. this is the same doctor of horrors who turned bareil into a god drat dickless cyborg and used a romulan mind probe on a legitimate federation intelligence officer.
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Nov 9, 2017 03:54
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for valor.
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counterfeitsaint posted:They're actually super inconsistent with that, it's probably one of the weakest things about TNG/DS9 klingons. Sometimes they're growling at worf as they crawl towards him after getting slapped, and they can't serve on the high council or the head of a great house, but then other times Worf is going on about how klingons consider women their equals and companions in battle, serving as senior officers, and getting awarded medals from
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Nov 9, 2017 04:03
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Mulaney Power Move posted:the problem with klingons according to worf is that he isn't a real klingon and he doesn't really understand klingon society except in mostly a textbook manner. he wouldn't even murder his own brother. instead they took him to horror doctor bashir who erased his memory. this is the same doctor of horrors who turned bareil into a god drat dickless cyborg and used a romulan mind probe on a legitimate federation intelligence officer. But enough about why DS9 is the superior show. Anyone else feel weird about that krueger faced klingon killing the admiral in the last ep? Why even bother showing them building some kind of rapport if the klingon from the house of spies can't even talk her way out of the first sticky situation that interrupts her plan?
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Nov 9, 2017 05:14
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Mondian posted:But enough about why DS9 is the superior show. I also like her that her plan was just, "let's just walk down the hall together without working out anything at all to say if anyone notices us." And yeah, seems like a complete waste of the setup from the otherwise sort-of-cool cliffhanger of her being captured. Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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Nov 9, 2017 05:23
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Mulaney Power Move posted:the problem with klingons according to worf is that he isn't a real klingon and he doesn't really understand klingon society except in mostly a textbook manner. he wouldn't even murder his own brother. instead they took him to horror doctor bashir who erased his memory. this is the same doctor of horrors who turned bareil into a god drat dickless cyborg and used a romulan mind probe on a legitimate federation intelligence officer. yeah bashir is an excellent example of why the federation was right to ban genetic enhancement
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Nov 9, 2017 08:06
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Worf knows everything about Klingon romance/sex from the only Klingon media that makes it to the Federation: Kinky Klingon porn. He begrudgingly respects Barclay's vast library.
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Nov 9, 2017 08:12
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Drink-Mix Man posted:
Yeah but that was TOS style klingons (just watched trials and tribble-ations today, so gd good) not these loving monstrosities with their enormous xenomorph heads and globs of fresh mutzadell in their throats. Tardigrade-drive is easier to buy than taking one of those loving horrorshows and making him a sexy bearded guy who's about to live out the true story behind vulcan love slave with michael
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Nov 9, 2017 10:39
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Nah Just technobabble it away The Orville did a similiar thing. They just got random deus ex devices that made them look exactly like the aliens they infiltrated. Bada bing bada boom
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Nov 9, 2017 13:23
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Fartbox posted:Nah It also fed well into that episode's plot, because what the hell's interfering with the holographic frequency, oh it's just a nuclear bomb  .
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Nov 9, 2017 13:25
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Fartbox posted:Nah That wasn't Deus ex, it was reverse engineered technology from a previous episode
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Nov 9, 2017 13:48
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lol ok well I'm sure they can reverse engineer some garbage to suit their plot needs in this show as well
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Nov 9, 2017 13:49
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That's just not what Deus ex means.
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Nov 9, 2017 13:51
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The term has evolved to mean a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Fits well enough imo and there's nothing you can say to change my mind Al Borland
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Nov 9, 2017 13:54
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I don't think "a convincing disguise" is a particularly unsolvable plot problem even in a show set in the 40s.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:02
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just wanna make sure no one misses this because it's really important
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Nov 9, 2017 14:17
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it's only a matter of time before I see an image of krusty grilling those... things isn't it?
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Nov 9, 2017 15:39
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counterfeitsaint posted:They're actually super inconsistent with that, it's probably one of the weakest things about TNG/DS9 klingons. Sometimes they're growling at worf as they crawl towards him after getting slapped, and they can't serve on the high council or the head of a great house, but then other times Worf is going on about how klingons consider women their equals and companions in battle, serving as senior officers, and getting awarded medals from Yeah, I swear I remember Worf giving a speech about how women have always been equal in Klingon society because their creation myth involves a husband and wife team killing their creator god. But then everything else about Klingon society seems to prove him wrong about that.
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Nov 9, 2017 15:54
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Mormons claim women are equal in their religion as well
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Nov 9, 2017 15:56
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Mormons claim women are equal in their religion as well Equal in the sense that all 9 of your wives look alike.
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Nov 9, 2017 16:44
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If Captain Seth and his stoner buddy had snuck onto the enemy ship and were trapped and needed a way out and then oh look, magical disguise devices are just sitting in a locker or something, that would be dues ex machina. Instead, they had their origin in a previous episode and the entire infiltration plan and episode was built around them having the devices available, so no, that's not even close to dues ex machina.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:21
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shadow puppet of a posted:Equal in the sense that all 9 of your wives look alike. well thats what happens when you marry your daughters
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Nov 9, 2017 18:26
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:the hunt for red october was a critical and commercial success that trusted the audience to understand having the actors portraying russians speak english was a diegetic choice to make the film more watchable to its intended audience. I am wrong and have poo poo opinions but I like that the klingons are alien aliens. It seals the deal for a retroactive thing that nobody really understands those weird crazy bastards yet. I like my catchy quotes but I'll have to wait another month or two for cold and flu season so I can pronounce them.
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Nov 9, 2017 19:48
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I'm all for really weird aliens, but the klingons come off as generic evil jerkfaces more than weird hard to comprehend aliens. Also they visibly struggle to pronounce their own language. How do they speak during a tense, combat situation? By the time the captain is able to garble out "Take evasion maneuvers and try to flank their starboard side" in mushmouth the battle would be over long over and his crew would have already consumed him for sustenance as their disabled ship floats aimlessly through space.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:08
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counterfeitsaint posted:I'm all for really weird aliens, but the klingons come off as generic evil jerkfaces more than weird hard to comprehend aliens. Also they visibly struggle to pronounce their own language. How do they speak during a tense, combat situation? By the time the captain is able to garble out "Take evasion maneuvers and try to flank their starboard side" in mushmouth the battle would be over long over and his crew would have already consumed him for sustenance as their disabled ship floats aimlessly through space. They don't strike me as the kind of fictional culture that would tolerate stuttering or mumbling and oh dear god I'm discussing the fine details of the klingon language on an internet forum and I hate my life.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:17
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counterfeitsaint posted:Also they visibly struggle to pronounce their own language. How do they speak during a tense, combat situation? By the time the captain is able to garble out "Take evasion maneuvers and try to flank their starboard side" in mushmouth the battle would be over long over and his crew would have already consumed him for sustenance as their disabled ship floats aimlessly through space.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:35
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wit posted:They don't strike me as the kind of fictional culture that would tolerate stuttering or mumbling and oh dear god I'm discussing the fine details of the klingon language on an internet forum and I hate my life.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:44
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every time they talk I remember that aqua teen hunger force episode where meatwad is collecting food for the shorties and Carl offers him oysters "they're farm-raised... in my throat... with cheese."
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Nov 9, 2017 20:48
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lmfao "soulless minions of orthodoxy" will never stop being funny this whole episode is amazing
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Nov 9, 2017 20:57
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Gatekeeper posted:lmfao "soulless minions of orthodoxy" will never stop being funny I like that the entire episode comes down to Jake and Nog helping everyone with various tasks that make everyone happy, making Jake's dad happy. It isn't an obvious ending, and it is full of humor and clever dialog. Great episode.
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Nov 10, 2017 00:24
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I like how even Weyoun and the insane science guy are happy at the end.
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Nov 10, 2017 00:31
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I love it. Discovery showed us that in their spare time the crew has a rave. Tonight Orville shows that they can party too: Karaoke Night!
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Nov 10, 2017 05:25
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Yaphit is great. 
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shadow puppet of a posted:Asking these sort of questions is a fantastic way to quickly lose a good gig working for CBS Oh no  If we've learned anything in the last few weeks, it's that Hollywood is really a great place to work though!
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Facebook Aunt posted:I love it. Discovery showed us that in their spare time the crew has a rave. Tonight Orville shows that they can party too: Karaoke Night! Damnit I almost missed this one, going to have to make time.
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