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skooma512 posted:What should I put as the addressee in the cover letter when I do not know who the hiring manager is and the selection is ostensibly done by a third party? You are offering currency in exchange for my labor. We should discuss this arrangement further. Best, skooma512 What I'm driving at is.. jaegerx posted:Why are you applying to a place that wants a cover letter? If you're applying to places that you're qualified for, in a market that is short for qualified applicants (hint: it's all of them) I'm failing to see what a cover letter accomplishes unless you're targeting a specific company.
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SeaborneClink posted:If you're applying to places that you're qualified for, in a market that is short for qualified applicants (hint: it's all of them) I'm failing to see what a cover letter accomplishes unless you're targeting a specific company. Every cover letter should be specifically targeting the company you send it to. It's your chance to create the narrative of "looking at my resume is a formality". Tell them up front what you'd want them to parse from your resume. This saves them time and creates a good impression. "I'm great at $X, and I've done specific awesome things involving your bullet points Y and Z" A good cover letter will get you more phone screens than a good resume will. You tell them you're a good candidate. You explain why, briefly. You close with some details. No need to look at the resume for anything really important mllaneza fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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mllaneza posted:Every cover letter should be specifically targeting the company you send it to. It's your chance to create the narrative of "looking at my resume is a formality". Tell them up front what you'd want them to parse from your resume. This saves them time and creates a good impression. "I'm great at $X, and I've done specific awesome things involving your bullet points Y and Z" Your resume should be short enough and formatted well enough that those things are already obvious from looking at it, in which case a cover letter is completely redundant. I understand that for dumb reasons some places require them, but I think they’re dumb as hell.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Your resume should be short enough and formatted well enough that those things are already obvious from looking at it, in which case a cover letter is completely redundant. I understand that for dumb reasons some places require them, but I think they’re dumb as hell. If you send a job application by email, do you just attach a PDF resume and leave the body blank?
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Nov 10, 2017 14:43
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"See attached"
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Nov 10, 2017 14:51
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I've only received call backs for applications that had tailored cover letters attached. Lots of companies hold soft skills like writing and non-technical communication in high regard. All three organizations I've worked for specifically wanted to break down the nerdy incomprehensive technical jargon wall between staff and IT, and my cover letters were solid examples that I'm capable of interacting with non-IT. Resumes don't reflect soft skills so if you're decent at writing, show it off with a cover letter.
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Nov 10, 2017 14:53
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This is cute, a sales executive trying to tell a reply-all email with a bunch of engineers on it that a /30 is not enough to connect a firewall to a bridged cable modem. "MY IT MANAGER SAYS IT NEEDS 2 IP ADDRESSES"
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Nov 10, 2017 16:06
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Give them a /31
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skooma512 posted:What should I put as the addressee in the cover letter when I do not know who the hiring manager is and the selection is ostensibly done by a third party? 8x10 glossy goat man.
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Thanks Ants posted:Give them a /31 I would not trust any ISP to have updated their router to support /31 p2p
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I've only received call backs for applications that had tailored cover letters attached. Lots of companies hold soft skills like writing and non-technical communication in high regard. All three organizations I've worked for specifically wanted to break down the nerdy incomprehensive technical jargon wall between staff and IT, and my cover letters were solid examples that I'm capable of interacting with non-IT. Yeah same. I tend to get more wins with cover letters and plus this one is an referral so I need an opportunity to name drop anyway.
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skooma512 posted:Yeah same. I tend to get more wins with cover letters and plus this one is an referral so I need an opportunity to name drop anyway. For jobs you really want to get and take the extra time with... 1. Always send a cover letter. Put some time into it to make it look good. 2. Always follow up saying thank you in an email after interviews. Its just too much value for the time spent.
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Sickening posted:For jobs you really want to get and take the extra time with... This is why I like working through a recruiter. Currently interviewing (3rd and final interview next week) and I haven't had any interaction outside of the interviews with anyone at the company. The recruiter sent them my resume and talked me up, and he keeps track of where they are in the hiring process and keeps me updated. No cover letter, no follow up emails.
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Nov 10, 2017 18:33
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In 15 years of IT career I have never bothered with a cover letter.
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Ranter posted:In 15 years of IT career I have never bothered with a cover letter. I do but it's always like "hey check out my big dick... you can't afford NOT to hire me, lol"... somehow it works
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Zero VGS posted:I do but it's always like "hey check out my big dick... you can't afford NOT to hire me, lol"... somehow it works Settle down there Harvey.
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Sickening posted:Its just too much value for the time spent. This is the biggest point I think. Writing two nice paragraphs is not hard, neither is making a copy and editing them to emphasize or play down certain things for each individual job you're applying to. Also what is the downside? Is there someone out there that would automatically bin a job application because it included a cover letter? Someone who you'd actually want to work near?
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For me I end up making one 'cover letter' and modifying the 3 places I put the company name, +/- a couple sentences regarding job specific stuff, and boom. It's really not hard
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Nov 10, 2017 20:01
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Yeah, last job search I spent less time working on cover letters than I did on lovely online application forms.
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Nov 10, 2017 20:04
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Yea even if you have trouble writing something there are so many examples you could copy or just pay someone on fiverr for a template.
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Nov 10, 2017 20:05
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When I try and go into why I'm the best candidate for the job I always just spiral into an existential crisis.
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"I'm young and I don't have kids holding me down, so you'll get at least 3 years of good work out of me"
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Its been at least a decade since I’ve applied to a job that required a cover letter. When I was doing hiring like 90% if the ones I saw were obviously copied off of a find/replace template. I’d scan their resume and set up a quick pre-screen if their work experience looked viable.
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Vargatron posted:When I try and go into why I'm the best candidate for the job I always just spiral into an existential crisis. "I'm the best person for this job because... uh. You know what I'm not the best person for this job. Sorry for wasting your time."
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I mean I know HR here requires a cover letter, and they always pass it along when referring candidates, but for me it's never anything beyond 'has a cover letter? check'
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Does anyone have any 10 GB Ethernet switches they like? For a relatively small network, iSCSI traffic as well. I've been waffling back and forth over Arista. Would like to avoid Cisco if possible. Doesn't look like they make any ProCurves that fit the bill.
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Internet Explorer posted:Does anyone have any 10 GB Ethernet switches they like? For a relatively small network, iSCSI traffic as well. I've been waffling back and forth over Arista. Would like to avoid Cisco if possible. Doesn't look like they make any ProCurves that fit the bill. If I'm not mistaken (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you can get Arista running either ProCurve or Comware... I HATE HATE HATE Comware syntax and have to constantly look up a Cisco -> Comware conversion to do anything, so being able to get those with ProCurve OS is cool. I'd probably go Cisco though. Edit: via Google I don't think I'm right... I'm pretty sure the HP rep was telling me one of their "higher end" lines could have either... Maybe I just imagined it because I hate Comware's CLI so much. TheFace fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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+1 for Arista if you don't want to go the Cisco route.
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Internet Explorer posted:Does anyone have any 10 GB Ethernet switches they like? For a relatively small network, iSCSI traffic as well. I've been waffling back and forth over Arista. Would like to avoid Cisco if possible. Doesn't look like they make any ProCurves that fit the bill.
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CaptainGimpy posted:+1 for Arista if you don't want to go the Cisco route. Artista is in a weird place not being able to use iptables for filtering until the Cisco injunction expires. Just vet your use case.
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Internet Explorer posted:Does anyone have any 10 GB Ethernet switches they like? For a relatively small network, iSCSI traffic as well. I've been waffling back and forth over Arista. Would like to avoid Cisco if possible. Doesn't look like they make any ProCurves that fit the bill. Arista owns. We've got about 25 arista switches floating around and I love them. We recently bought 6 switches second hand for like <$1000 each. Zero problems with any of them. Even if you want to buy new for some reason, its way cheaper than anything cisco you'll find. https://www.ebay.com/p/Arista-Networks-Dcs-7050s-52-f-dc-Layer-3-DC-Switch-With-52x-10gbe-SFP-Ports/2081783262?iid=391694582642
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anthonypants posted:When you say "10 GB Ethernet" what connector did you have in mind? Yeah, sorry. My experience with 10GB is still fairly limited and I always say 10GB Ethernet when I mean 10GBASE-T. We won't have any runs more than a couple dozen feet and I just don't want to mess with all the optical modules and cables. It would be total overkill for us. I think 2x Arista 7050TX-48 would fit the bill for us. [Edit: Or at least that's what I'm putting in my end-of-year budget splurge request. I've been getting poo poo for us being under budget and it's not my money, so  ]
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Direct attach uses less power and I believe has a lower latency than 10GbE.
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Email in general just needs to die already. At least for any kind of internal communication. It's just terrible and associated with terrible costs and hassle.
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We're not allowed to use IM for inter office communication or anything like Slack. Email or bust.
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Thanks Ants posted:Direct attach uses less power and I believe has a lower latency than 10GbE. I'm generally in favor of looking at DAS, used to recommend it quite a bit at the MSP I used to work for. Unfortunately we have too many hosts and I want to leave some room for growth, as there has been talk about expanding.
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I mean SFP twinax, not direct-attach storage.
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Internet Explorer posted:Yeah, sorry. My experience with 10GB is still fairly limited and I always say 10GB Ethernet when I mean 10GBASE-T. We won't have any runs more than a couple dozen feet and I just don't want to mess with all the optical modules and cables. It would be total overkill for us. I think 2x Arista 7050TX-48 would fit the bill for us.
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GreenNight posted:We're not allowed to use IM for inter office communication or anything like Slack. Email or bust. What?? Why??
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Thanks Ants posted:I mean SFP twinax, not direct-attach storage. Ah, gotcha. Sorry, like I said still new to 10GB. anthonypants posted:A "relatively small network" is two 32-port switches? Yes...? As far as I can tell those are the smallest 10GB switches you can buy from Arista. Do you have any other suggestions or are you just being smart?
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