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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

what the poo poo is this?

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Rhyno posted:

what the poo poo is this?

It appears to be a visual metaphor for the current state of Star Wars.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Lurdiak posted:

It appears to be a visual metaphor for the current state of Star Wars.

:golfclap:

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Lurdiak posted:

It appears to be a visual metaphor for the current state of Star Wars.

Checks out.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Rhyno posted:

what the poo poo is this?

The Empire's Not-Siths, The Inquisitors, have dual bladed lightsabers. Cool right? Well, Disney said "What if they spun?" And after that, they said "What if they could fly with them?"

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
well if lightsabers do indeed generate heat then you see :fuckoff:

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

On the other hand, Thrawn.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

God forbid Star Wars be fun for five seconds.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Dammit, I need more serious moments, such as Anakin murdering children, or anything with sand.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Gonna have to listen to this :(
https://twitter.com/kimmasters/status/928855951859257344

Also I'd really like to rewatch Horace & Pete but that's gonna be a tough one too.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Ahahahaha my god, the Nathan For You season finale was 2 hours long?! I'm about to cringe a lot

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Wait, the Dynasty remake is a Josh Schwartz/Steph Savage show???

I'M IN.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

...I had no idea the places this Nathan For You finale was gonna go, Jesus :frogon:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

feedmyleg posted:

I'd rather have an interesting TV show that has some rough, weird edges than the sort of milquetoast retread stuff that Disney is putting out. Just compare the uneven-but-great Clone Wars to the truly awful Rebels to see the difference of his guiding hand. Don't write off the man's entire career just because you feel betrayed by a few bad but boundary pushing movies at the end of it.

I thought Dave Filoni was in charge of both shows (and I'd heard that he's one of the guys Lucas thought could be his potential successor as the guy in charge of Star Wars).

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
SMILF is very good.

Frankie Shaw is a beast.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Davros1 posted:

The Empire's Not-Siths, The Inquisitors, have dual bladed lightsabers. Cool right? Well, Disney said "What if they spun?" And after that, they said "What if they could fly with them?"

They were only in a handful of episodes and are easily the shittiest part of an otherwise really great series.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll
It's Amazon pilot season again!

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.


Wow those have absolutely have zero interest to me.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!


Cool could they finally get around to actually putting out Jean Claude Van Johnson already, it's been like 2 years.

Assuming Van Damme doesn't have any rapey stories about to drop, which I guess is a real possibility with everything at this point.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Glenn Close as a comedy zombie could be good.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007


When I saw the signs at the stages, I thought for certain Sea Oak was a code name

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

The first episode of Love You More is directed by Bobcat Goldthwaite. That style of comedy is not what I generally expect from him.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

Louis C.K. posted:

These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. I have been remorseful of my actions. And I’ve tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/10/louis-c-k-statement/

Spoiler: He's still a bad man

Croatoan fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 10, 2017

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

IRQ posted:

Cool could they finally get around to actually putting out Jean Claude Van Johnson already, it's been like 2 years.

Assuming Van Damme doesn't have any rapey stories about to drop, which I guess is a real possibility with everything at this point.

If I remember right one of the stories about the Street Fighter movie was him being constantly high and having an affair with Kylie Minogue on the set.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Croatoan posted:

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41950043

Spoiler: He's full of poo poo. He also said he had no idea until yesterday

No idea how much what he did hurt them. Which could very well be true since I doubt he ever had them really lay it out for him. It's the least lovely apology letter thus far, but is still lovely because he still makes it about himself and busts out the old "oh derp I'm like in my 50s and just now learned what taking advantage of people is."

I don't get how people who play characters for a living can't do a fake apology better than this.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

IRQ posted:

No idea how much what he did hurt them. Which could very well be true since I doubt he ever had them really lay it out for him. It's the least lovely apology letter thus far, but is still lovely because he still makes it about himself and busts out the old "oh derp I'm like in my 50s and just now learned what taking advantage of people is."

I don't get how people who play characters for a living can't do a fake apology better than this.

I edited it to a newer better article. Dude is totally taking ownership but c'mon. Don't jerk off in front of women why are hanging out with you trying to get a career boost or advice. It's still super lovely of him. You've gotta know when you're in a sexual moment with partners vs. "Hey, mind if I jerk off?"

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

IRQ posted:

Cool could they finally get around to actually putting out Jean Claude Van Johnson already, it's been like 2 years.

Assuming Van Damme doesn't have any rapey stories about to drop, which I guess is a real possibility with everything at this point.

I could have sworn I saw a release date for Jean Claude Van Johnson that's sometime next month.

E:yep, 12/15

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

FX has fired Louis CK.

It's nice these days that this poo poo has at least become so unacceptable that it will ruin your career (for now) real fast. Not that he isn't already loaded and will probably still be able to do live shows.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
He pioneered selling content directly to consumers via the Internet (which made him a ton of money selling him and his friends' standup specials and then subsequently lost it all self-financing Horace and Pete and then releasing it zero fanfare or advertising) so I'm just hoping that his existing fans share the same sentiment because he's in a better position than most to keep making poo poo since he owns his own distribution channel.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






IRQ posted:

No idea how much what he did hurt them. Which could very well be true since I doubt he ever had them really lay it out for him. It's the least lovely apology letter thus far, but is still lovely because he still makes it about himself and busts out the old "oh derp I'm like in my 50s and just now learned what taking advantage of people is."

I don't get how people who play characters for a living can't do a fake apology better than this.

Denial is a helluva drug.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

IRQ posted:

FX has fired Louis CK.

It's nice these days that this poo poo has at least become so unacceptable that it will ruin your career (for now) real fast. Not that he isn't already loaded and will probably still be able to do live shows.

But not because of the abuse stuff, it's because they just realized he hasn't delivered an episode in two and a half years.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



The apology letter would mean more if he hadn’t been approached about this stuff years ago when the story first went around. Seemed happier to keep it as rumors back then.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Dang, FX severed all ties with him

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/929102671755259904

Every week I watched the new season of AHS, in a 45 minute period there'd be at least 2 or 3 ads promoting Baskets. Even for their original programming it stood out as something they were putting a lot of marketing to. Happily surprising to see they're treating this situation seriously and want nothing to do with him

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

JethroMcB posted:

But not because of the abuse stuff, it's because they just realized he hasn't delivered an episode in two and a half years.

He produces on Better Things and some other crap too.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

JethroMcB posted:

But not because of the abuse stuff, it's because they just realized he hasn't delivered an episode in two and a half years.

He has two other shows on their network as well, Better Things and Baskets.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
His eagerness to keep giving parts to noted unfunny lovely person Jim Norton also makes a lot more sense now.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Is he actively involved in those other shows, or is it just contractually obligated producer credit?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Guy Mann posted:

His eagerness to keep giving parts to noted unfunny lovely person Jim Norton also makes a lot more sense now.

Jim Norton is a giant skeezeball but he's always been public about it to my knowledge.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Not surprising. His publicist dropped him too.
https://twitter.com/netflix/status/929072847137280000

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Ellen Page has come out against Brett Ratner. This is the statement she posted to Facebook.

quote:

You should gently caress her to make her realize she’s gay.” He said this about me during a cast and crew “meet and greet” before we began filming, X Men: The Last Stand. I was eighteen years old. He looked at a woman standing next to me, ten years my senior, pointed to me and said: “You should gently caress her to make her realize she’s gay.” He was the film’s director, Brett Ratner.

I was a young adult who had not yet come out to myself. I knew I was gay, but did not know, so to speak. I felt violated when this happened. I looked down at my feet, didn’t say a word and watched as no one else did either. This man, who had cast me in the film, started our months of filming at a work event with this horrific, unchallenged plea. He “outed” me with no regard for my well-being, an act we all recognize as homophobic. I proceeded to watch him on set say degrading things to women. I remember a woman walking by the monitor as he made a comment about her “flappy pussy”.

We are all entitled to come into an awareness of our sexual orientation privately and on our own terms. I was young and although already a working actor for so long I had in many ways been insulated, growing up on film sets instead of surrounded by my peers. This public, aggressive outing left me with long standing feelings of shame, one of the most destructive results of homophobia. Making someone feel ashamed of who they are is a cruel manipulation, designed to oppress and repress. I was robbed of more than autonomy over my ability to define myself. Ratner’s comment replayed in my mind many times over the years as I encountered homophobia and coped with feelings of reluctance and uncertainty about the industry and my future in it. The difference is that I can now assert myself and use my voice to to fight back against the insidious queer and transphobic attitude in Hollywood and beyond. Hopefully having the position I have, I can help people who may be struggling to be accepted and allowed to be who they are –to thrive. Vulnerable young people without my advantages are so often diminished and made to feel they have no options for living the life they were meant to joyously lead.

I got into an altercation with Brett at a certain point. He was pressuring me, in front of many people, to don a t-shirt with “Team Ratner” on it. I said no and he insisted. I responded, “I am not on your team.” Later in the day, producers of the film came to my trailer to say that I “couldn’t talk like that to him.” I was being reprimanded, yet he was not being punished nor fired for the blatantly homophobic and abusive behavior we all witnessed. I was an actor that no one knew. I was eighteen and had no tools to know how to handle the situation.

I have been a professional actor since the age of ten. I’ve had the good fortune to work with many honorable and respectful collaborators both behind and in front of the camera. But the behavior I’m describing is ubiquitous. They (abusers), want you to feel small, to make you insecure, to make you feel like you are indebted to them, or that your actions are to blame for their unwelcome advances.

When I was sixteen a director took me to dinner (a professional obligation and a very common one). He fondled my leg under the table and said, “You have to make the move, I can’t.” I did not make the move and I was fortunate to get away from that situation. It was a painful realization: my safety was not guaranteed at work. An adult authority figure for whom I worked intended to exploit me, physically. I was sexually assaulted by a grip months later. I was asked by a director to sleep with a man in his late twenties and to tell them about it. I did not. This is just what happened during my sixteenth year, a teenager in the entertainment industry.

Look at the history of what’s happened to minors who’ve described sexual abuse in Hollywood. Some of them are no longer with us, lost to substance abuse and suicide. Their victimizers? Still working. Protected even as I write this. You know who they are; they’ve been discussed behind closed doors as often as Weinstein was. If I, a person with significant privilege, remain reluctant and at such risk simply by saying a person’s name, what are the options for those who do not have what I have?

Let’s remember the epidemic of violence against women in our society disproportionately affects low income women, particularly women of color, trans and queer women and indigenous women, who are silenced by their economic circumstances and profound mistrust of a justice system that acquits the guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence and continues to oppress people of color. I have the means to hire security if I feel threatened. I have the wealth and insurance to receive mental health care. I have the privilege of having a platform that enables me to write this and have it published, while the most marginalized do not have access to such resources. The reality is, women of color, trans and queer and indigenous women have been leading this fight for decades (forever actually). Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, Winona LaDuke, Miss Major, Audre Lorde, bell hooks, to name a few. Misty Upham fought tirelessly to end violence against indigenous women, domestic workers and undocumented women. Misty was found dead at the bottom of a cliff three years ago. Her father, Charles Upham, just made a Facebook post saying she was raped at a party by a Miramax executive. The most marginalized have been left behind. As a cis, white lesbian, I have benefited and have the privileges I have, because of these extraordinary and courageous individuals who have led the way and risked their lives while doing so. White supremacy continues to silence people of color, while I have the rights I have because of these leaders. They are who we should be listening to and learning from.

These abusers make us feel powerless and overwhelmed by their empire. Let’s not forget the sitting Supreme Court justice and President of the United States. One accused of sexual harassment by Anita Hill, whose testimony was discredited. The other proudly describing his own pattern of assault to an entertainment reporter. How many men in the media – titans of industry - need to be exposed for us to understand the gravity of the situation and to demand the fundamental safety and respect that is our right?

Bill Cosby was known to be predatory. The crimes were his, but many were complicit. Many more chose to look the other way. Harvey was known to be predatory. The crimes were his, but many were complicit. Many more chose to look the other way. We continue to celebrate filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was convicted of drugging and anally raping a young girl and who fled sentencing. A fugitive from justice. I’ve heard the industry decry Weinstein’s behavior and vow to affect meaningful change. But let’s be truthful: the list is long and still protected by the status quo. We have work to do. We cannot look the other way.

I did a Woody Allen movie and it is the biggest regret of my career. I am ashamed I did this. I had yet to find my voice and was not who I am now and felt pressured, because “of course you have to say yes to this Woody Allen film.” Ultimately, however, it is my choice what films I decide to do and I made the wrong choice. I made an awful mistake.

I want to see these men have to face what they have done. I want them to not have power anymore. I want them to sit and think about who they are without their lawyers, their millions, their fancy cars, houses upon houses, their “playboy” status and swagger.

What I want the most, is for this to result in healing for the victims. For Hollywood to wake up and start taking some responsibility for how we all have played a role in this. I want us to reflect on this endemic issue and how this power dynamic of abuse leads to an enormous amount of suffering. Violence against women is an epidemic in this country and around the world. How is this cascade of immorality and injustice shaping our society? One of the greatest risks to a pregnant woman’s health in the United States is murder. Trans women of color in this country have a life expectancy of thirty-five. Why are we not addressing this as a society? We must remember the consequences of such actions. Mental health issues, suicide, eating disorders, substance abuse, to name a few.

What are we afraid to say and why can’t we say it? Women, particularly the most marginalized, are silenced, while powerful abusers can scream as loudly as they want, lie as much as they want and continue to profit through it all.
This is a long awaited reckoning. It must be. It’s sad that“codes of conduct” have to be enforced to ensure we experience fundamental human decency and respect. Inclusion and representation are the answer. We’ve learned that the status quo perpetuates unfair, victimizing behavior to protect and perpetuate itself. Don’t allow this behavior to be normalized. Don’t compare wrongs or criminal acts by their degrees of severity. Don’t allow yourselves to be numb to the voices of victims coming forward. Don’t stop demanding our civil rights. I am grateful to anyone and everyone who speaks out against abuse and trauma they have suffered. You are breaking the silence. You are revolution.

https://twitter.com/AnnaPaquin/status/929057776650698752

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