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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I saw a headline that Michael Flynn was involved in a plot to kidnap and deliver Fethullah Gülen to Turkey, and the first thing that came to mind was "How will Enes Kanter respond" Lol Maybe Flynn would have needed to kidnap Gülen’s closest ally also
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I'm trying to be optimistic about our bad player but now maybe I won't be. Could've had (insert literally any other player) 
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I have a problem and I need help from y'all nerds. Doing a silly project for a CS class and for part of it, I need to classify probably 5 tiers of NBA careers. Like 'Garbage, Bad, average, good, Star' or something. What do you think the best way to look at this would be? Im thinking if > 10 seasons they are probably already in average cat, I know bad contracts are given, but if you are around for a decade you can play. What are some other identifiers that I could easily sort through? AllStar appearances? All NBA teams? Winshares?
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Nov 10, 2017 20:08
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Bobby Digital posted:“Hmm yes I can take Starbury”—a moron CONEY ISLAND
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Nov 10, 2017 20:09
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Nov 10, 2017 20:10
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Dejan Bimble posted:CONEY ISLAND Reminder that everyone should Darcy Frey's The Last Shot, a sad book about three other kids that a 14-year-old Steph dominates out of nowhere because he has always been this entertainingly crazy
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Boredumb posted:Lol https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter/status/928991137385320448
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American generals are more easily paid off than WWF referees in the presence of the Million Dollar Man, Ted Dibiase
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ButtWolf posted:I have a problem and I need help from y'all nerds. Doing a silly project for a CS class and for part of it, I need to classify probably 5 tiers of NBA careers. Like 'Garbage, Bad, average, good, Star' or something. What do you think the best way to look at this would be? Win shares is fine, almost any metric at that macro level will return mostly the same answers anyway. Maybe use games started to seperate The great mass of forgotten players from the mediocre but long-careered players. The problem from a classification perspective is that the distribution is strongly right skewed.
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dokmo posted:Marbury is 40 years old and has a ORTG of 138 and is shooting 65%, never stop balling you shining star. Vaseline makes you shiny.
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The hard part is going to decide where the break points are in the categories tbh. I can't guarantee it would actually produce any meaningful result, but I think plotting win shares against some other stat (net points?) might give you some more interesting and defined clusters than if you're just analyzing one attribute.
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Rick posted:I'm really tired of people claiming it's because of his dad because I find his dad entertaining at a certain level. It's about his basketball game and how false the narrative has been around him as a player for going on two years now. Do you have a theory as to how the narrative got twisted? Because it seems to me as a slightly more than casual NBA fan that it really came down to A) LaVar hyping him up + B) Magic wanting to make a splash. Seems to me without A he'd never been in the top 10 conversation and without B the lakers might have dropped it after the combine/workouts.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/929056039173009408
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Nov 10, 2017 21:11
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I think he played two garbage time minutes.
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Here are a bunch of of blocked shots plus fela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rcgT7XHiQc
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ketchup vs catsup posted:Do you have a theory as to how the narrative got twisted? Lonzo Ball has a worse handle than Terrence Ross. Lonzo Ball 's jumper is as bad as Michael Kidd Gilchrist. Lonzo Ball plays defense like a 6'5 Damian Lillard. Lonzo Ball finishes like Bismack Biyombo, ie he's afraid of layups and only makes dunks off of two feet. He was a very good passer in some areas in college and he made threes off the dribble. He did not make many threes in AAU or high school. A lot of people fell deeply in love with his passing and off the dribble threes, they made erroneous AB comparisons, like UCLA was awful, then Lonzo Ball was there and they were good, he must be a star. There was ample evidence in film of his glaring weaknesses, the same weaknesses that have sunk other pass first pgs, their rebuttal was always, yeah but he's such a good passer that none of that will matter, and he's tall. Ben Simmons has outperformed my expectations, he's been wonderfully mobile and engaged on defense, he's finished well, and his height has allowed him to pass at crazy angles despite his lack of a jumper. I think that speaks volumes for the 76ers coaching and his own desire to be a great player. Alonso Ball is moderately tall, and has so far shown half of what he did in college, pass in transition and rebound, that shot that starts at his belly button is much harder against NBA length. His handle is wobbly. His finishing is poor. He could try harder on defense, but he's lost and not athletic. His passing in transition is good when he gets the chance. Maybe he'll learn to run a pnr. Maybe he'll fix his shot. Maybe he'll take the good steroids and get quicker and stronger. Maybe. Maybe? Maybe. Maybe Dennis Smith has a bad attitude, but he was blamed for his team falling apart at the seams while Lonzo got all the credit for a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects gelling under a run and gun threes and layups system. Dennis Smith is an NBA athlete, Dennis Smith is not afraid to take contact while making a layup. Dennis Smith is also a bad defender, but he could become a good one. I feel like I've written this 50 times, but his UCLA teammates were the best big passer in the NCAA, another pg in young Alfred Alford, and some other star prospects. UCLA was built around hiding his weaknesses and bolstering his strengths. He played like a short small forward who ran the break and rebounded. Other guys ran pnr and he was like the second or third ball handler and could pass to cutters and guys in their spots after the offense was already whirring. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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At my new job I spend a lot of time with highschool kids. They LOVE basketball so we get talking and I ask them a bunch of questions. Here's what they think: Kyrie is the best Lebron is good but too old Dwane Casey needs to get fired and the Raptors should get Steve Kerr Kobe is top 5 all time Cousins is awesome Steph is a baby Most importantly, one kid was ranking his top 3 all time and said, "well obviously, Jordan is number 1" only to be interrupted by someone shouting "JORDAN CANT BE NUMBER ONE HE DOESNT EVEN SHOOT THREES If you have any questions for them let me know. I'll report back on the hoop preferences of our future.
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BWV posted:At my new job I spend a lot of time with highschool kids. They LOVE basketball so we get talking and I ask them a bunch of questions. Ask them if Damian Lillard is better than Kyle Lowry Ask them if Reggie Jackson scares them because his freakish bat wings and terrible claws Ask them who the ugliest NBA player is
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BWV posted:"JORDAN CANT BE NUMBER ONE HE DOESNT EVEN SHOOT THREES 
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BWV posted:If you have any questions for them let me know. I'll report back on the hoop preferences of our future. Need to know the report on earl and Beasley to see if they are good opinion havers
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BWV posted:At my new job I spend a lot of time with highschool kids. They LOVE basketball so we get talking and I ask them a bunch of questions. Ask them if they know Paul Bunyan (aka Wilt Chamberlain)
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Ask them if they ever actually watch games, or is all they know from video games. I got alot of middle school nephews like that. They play all the sports, and play video games but NEVER actually watch a game, because there attention span is 5 seconds.
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Even Adam Silver hates Niko https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/929103131035791360
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BWV posted:At my new job I spend a lot of time with highschool kids. They LOVE basketball so we get talking and I ask them a bunch of questions. The kids are alright 
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FrankeeFrankFrank posted:Ask them if they ever actually watch games, or is all they know from video games. They don't watch full games but they spend all day watching highlights on snap/insta/twitter.
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xbilkis posted:Even Adam Silver hates Niko At this point I’m choosing to believe Mirotic asked if he could masturbate in front of Portis.
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xbilkis posted:Even Adam Silver hates Niko Man, there is only one tape in the world I want to see more than this Portis v. Niko tape. Niko must have done some real poo poo to get completely poo poo on by everyone.
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the piss tape b side aka bobby vs niko
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BWV posted:They don't watch full games but they spend all day watching highlights on snap/insta/twitter. I mean, at that age, I barely watched full games, just clips on ESPN and looking at boxscores
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BWV posted:At my new job I spend a lot of time with highschool kids. They LOVE basketball so we get talking and I ask them a bunch of questions. What are their feelings on Rubio
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Despite this video being annoyingly silent and captioned rather than narrated, this is a good look at how teams create plays. Good for a newbie like me, at least. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSQ--wkTQs
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EvanTH posted:everyone on the last page or two comparing Ball's first 12 games of a rookie season to total seasons of statistics--why are you doing that? That's not a useful thing to compare. Especially since you can compare across whatever span of games with the game finder. Westbrook wasn't hyped as potentially the best passer in history, he was a mostly unknown guy who was seen as a high upside super athletic prospect who was still learning to play pg
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Dejan Bimble posted:Westbrook wasn't hyped as potentially the best passer in history, he was a mostly unknown guy who was seen as a high upside super athletic prospect who was still learning to play pg I dug up the threads from that year https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885987 Draft thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2888293 Post Draft https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2896181 Summer League
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BWV posted:They don't watch full games but they spend all day watching highlights on snap/insta/twitter. So exactly like the rest of us.
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Stiev Awt posted:I didn't see a new GDT up, so do Detroit or Atlanta have not poo poo play by play? I think Detroit is the better of the two?
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