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Lemming posted:Violence Also fun reading for anyone who wondered how the Bible Belt arose out of the ashes of the Lost Cause. e:tax! 
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These stories about reporters interviewing people and discovering that they'll still support Roy Moore are interesting but not really the point. There is still a month left for this scandal to unravel Moore's enthusiasm and that will translate into reduced turnout. Some portion of Joe/Jill Alabamas are going to wake up on December 12th and think "Oh yeah, I gotta vote. I'll do it later." And then when it's later and they've been working all day they'll just say gently caress it, or not even think about it again because they're already fatigued from a month of hearing about Roy Moore diddlin' teenagers. That reduced turnout is probably still not enough for a Democrat to win in Alabama but it will be interesting to see the result. anyway just my hot take based on nothing
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Nov 11, 2017 01:18
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Paracaidas posted:https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/929124238912638982 OK just to clarify, he's suggesting that if people write in Strange, and Jones wins, Strange should literally flee the state?
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Nov 11, 2017 01:19
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:OK just to clarify, he's suggesting that if people write in Strange, and Jones wins, Strange should literally flee the state? Flee from the whole Confederacy even
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Nov 11, 2017 01:20
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Azhais posted:Flee from the whole Confederacy even Or at least to the unredeemed portions, where those people still hold power.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:21
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Paracaidas posted:Mason Dixon line? Atlanta? Someone who, like most people, thinks that everywhere below the Mason-Dixon line is GOP territory and forgets about blue Maryland.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:21
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sharkbomb posted:These stories about reporters interviewing people and discovering that they'll still support Roy Moore are interesting but not really the point. There is still a month left for this scandal to unravel Moore's enthusiasm and that will translate into reduced turnout. Some portion of Joe/Jill Alabamas are going to wake up on December 12th and think "Oh yeah, I gotta vote. I'll do it later." And then when it's later and they've been working all day they'll just say gently caress it, or not even think about it again because they're already fatigued from a month of hearing about Roy Moore diddlin' teenagers. That reduced turnout is probably still not enough for a Democrat to win in Alabama but it will be interesting to see the result. That's always what it's been about. People have been confused (me included obviously) that it's been about convincing people of other viewpoints, but it's always been about depressing turnout for your enemies and promoting turnout for your base. This will definitely depress turnout for Moore, but it won't change the mind of a single Republican.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:22
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Paracaidas posted:https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/929124238912638982 They’ll kill whoever instigated the write in campaign.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:22
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The arguably traitorous "compromise of 1877" set back the cause of civil rights and basic human freedom by about about 80 years or so in the US after the Civil War. If Reconstruction had not ended in 1877 and all of the Redeemers not rolled back the early gains of the FIRST civil rights era in the US, we probably could have had the civil rights movement in the 1880's on a massive scale instead of the 1960's. Especially imagine if Lincoln had survived for another several years in office and remained an influential civil rights advocate for years afterward... Things could have been a lot different for sure!
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Nov 11, 2017 01:23
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In case you didn't think the smear campaign was coming, we've already had an alt-right rear end in a top hat doxx this woman on Twitter, and now Fox is desperately trying to tie her to the Clintons https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/929117261499166721
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Nov 11, 2017 01:23
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Phoix posted:They're pulling out. That's not effective birthcontrol.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:24
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/929142126759350272 So yeah, the TPP still happened without us
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Nov 11, 2017 01:25
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Azhais posted:Flee from the whole Confederacy even These... these people know the Civil War ended and they lost badly right? Referencing Atlanta and the mason Dixon line is just 
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Nov 11, 2017 01:25
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Paracaidas posted:It's a blatant throwback to earlier days. This dog is currently magnetically aligned with the north.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:26
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TulliusCicero posted:These... these people know the Civil War ended and they lost badly right? Referencing Atlanta and the mason Dixon line is just No, they don't They still think they were justified by
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Nov 11, 2017 01:27
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National Republicans are going to whip these stupid fuckers into line
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Nov 11, 2017 01:30
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:National Republicans are going to whip these stupid fuckers into line Hey, how is 2004? You should totally invest in Google, right now btw
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Nov 11, 2017 01:31
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/929142126759350272 Seems as if this would be a blow for all of those who argued it was American economic imperialism and also couldn't be arsed to learn about the drat thing. Though that would require selfreflection and that's almost as difficult as learning. Given Trump's travel schedule, the timing of this is a hilarious fuckoff to the administration and a competent State department would have prevented or at least delayed this.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:31
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TulliusCicero posted:These... these people know the Civil War ended and they lost badly right? Referencing Atlanta and the mason Dixon line is just Sherman didn't go far enough.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:32
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/929142126759350272 Meh. The unions were against it, I'm not going to reflexively support just because Trump was also against it.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:32
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Sorus posted:Someone who, like most people, thinks that everywhere below the Mason-Dixon line is GOP territory and forgets about blue Maryland. I grew up in the “red” part of Maryland and let me tell you. The republicans in Maryland foam at the mouth to tell you how Maryland would be super conservative if it wasn’t for those “urban” people in Baltimore constantly voting to take their money away to give handouts to all the people who refuse to work in the city. Outside of the Baltimore and parts of Annapolis, Maryland may as well be the south. Hell, I can’t even count how many times in high school I heard the confederate flag waving bros explain that Maryland would have been confederate if LINCOLN HADN’T ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED THE STATE! 
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Nov 11, 2017 01:33
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:It'll come down to Democratic enthusiasm and whether Republicans actually try to mount a Luther Strange write-in campaign, which would almost certainly split the ticket. The thing to note here is that all of these reporters are interviewing Roy Moore supporters, and noting that they continue to support him, but that's only 55% of Alabama's Republican primary voters. Roy Moore won the primary, but Luther Strange got enough of the vote that even if only 1 in 5 of his voters were too disgusted to go to the polls and pull the lever -- not even vote for a Democrat, but just fail to vote -- that would most likely sink Moore's election chances. If they could be convinced to try a write in campaign, that could sink Moore entirely. the dnc should spend their money encouraging people to write in strange
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Nov 11, 2017 01:36
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Evil Fluffy posted:Solidly Republican, yes. Full blown, no. The Rock isn't screaming for LGBT to be persecuted and I can't think of if/when he's ever played up religion. I read Alan Colmes book once and thought it was pretty good honestly. I emailed him about something on the show and he answered me right back in a really nice way.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:36
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dbukalski posted:I would wager the rock is republican because the people around him most of his life have been republican. Also the "country music song" you're talking about was from 2013 where he did a song making GBS threads all over Vickie Guerrero, who was an evil wrestling manager at the time, though if you google "the rock hillary clinton" an edit will show up, with the top comment being that it is an edit from the 2013 Vickie Guerrero song.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:37
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SaturdayKnight posted:I grew up in the “red” part of Maryland and let me tell you. The republicans in Maryland foam at the mouth to tell you how Maryland would be super conservative if it wasn’t for those “urban” people in Baltimore constantly voting to take their money away to give handouts to all the people who refuse to work in the city. Outside of the Baltimore and parts of Annapolis, Maryland may as well be the south. Hell, I can’t even count how many times in high school I heard the confederate flag waving bros explain that Maryland would have been confederate if LINCOLN HADN’T ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED THE STATE! You forgot DC suburbs; also v. Blue.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:37
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SaturdayKnight posted:I grew up in the “red” part of Maryland and let me tell you. The republicans in Maryland foam at the mouth to tell you how Maryland would be super conservative if it wasn’t for those “urban” people in Baltimore constantly voting to take their money away to give handouts to all the people who refuse to work in the city. Outside of the Baltimore and parts of Annapolis, Maryland may as well be the south. Hell, I can’t even count how many times in high school I heard the confederate flag waving bros explain that Maryland would have been confederate if LINCOLN HADN’T ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED THE STATE! This is pretty much every southern state, and it even applies to other states from other regions. The whole urban/rural divide is more important in the 21st century than geography.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:42
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FlamingLiberal posted:In case you didn't think the smear campaign was coming, we've already had an alt-right rear end in a top hat doxx this woman on Twitter, and now Fox is desperately trying to tie her to the Clintons But why did she wait so long to speak out indeed.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:43
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/929142126759350272 This forum's opposition to TPP was pretty lame at best
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Nov 11, 2017 01:45
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The Lemondrop Dandy posted:You forgot DC suburbs; also v. Blue. That was dumb, I miss visiting DC. It was such a nice place. I heard plenty of complaints about the “criminals” in DC taking trains into Maryland and destroying those poor innocent white neighborhoods. I’m glad I’m not around those people anymore.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:45
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Hillary and Bernie were both also against tpp you know.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:47
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SaturdayKnight posted:That was dumb, I miss visiting DC. It was such a nice place. I heard plenty of complaints about the “criminals” in DC taking trains into Maryland and destroying those poor innocent white neighborhoods. I’m glad I’m not around those people anymore. Prince George's county is notable for being the richest minority-majority county in the nation, too! Really nice area, Maryland was kinda great.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:48
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Hillary and Bernie were both also against tpp you know. While it can be tough to tell from these forums generally, complex policy questions are generally not best viewed through the lens of the neverending slapfight. Also Hillary's stance changed late enough so as to not count, according to the official arbiters of such things. Have we heard how this is going to impact the international anime markets yet? Anxious posters would like to know!
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Nov 11, 2017 01:51
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SaturdayKnight posted:I grew up in the “red” part of Maryland and let me tell you. The republicans in Maryland foam at the mouth to tell you how Maryland would be super conservative if it wasn’t for those “urban” people in Baltimore constantly voting to take their money away to give handouts to all the people who refuse to work in the city. Outside of the Baltimore and parts of Annapolis, Maryland may as well be the south. Hell, I can’t even count how many times in high school I heard the confederate flag waving bros explain that Maryland would have been confederate if LINCOLN HADN’T ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED THE STATE! Anne Arundel is where Annapolis is and it is less blue than Montgomery County, PG County, Howard County, and Charles County (counties you didn't mention beyond Baltimore). Like, it's not even close. The number of people that voted Democratic in Montgomery County alone exceeds those that voted Republican in Garrett, Allegany, Washington, Carroll, Cecil, Worcester, Frederick, Kent and Talbot counties COMBINED.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:52
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dbukalski posted:the dnc should spend their money encouraging people to write in strange Has there ever been an example of an opposing party stirring up a write-in campaign against the primary winner? I feel like I've heard of this happening but can't recall... It would be an interesting way to hurt Roy Moore without getting any overtly Democratic fingers on it.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:56
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I read Alan Colmes book once and thought it was pretty good honestly. I emailed him about something on the show and he answered me right back in a really nice way. He always seemed like an okay guy yeah. it was always clear he was far smarter than Hannity and loathed being there though.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:56
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Like just to emphasize how weird this conversation is, the vote was 357,000 Clinton to 92,000 Trump in Montgomery County. The vote was 344,000 Clinton to 32,000 in PG County. Meanwhile in Annapolis and Anne Arundel the vote was even.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:57
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The naval academy is in Annapolis, might have something to do with it
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Nov 11, 2017 02:00
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Anne Arundel is where Annapolis is and it is less blue than Montgomery County, PG County, Howard County, and Charles County (counties you didn't mention beyond Baltimore). Like, it's not even close. You can try and tell Maryland republicans that. But it’s not about the fact that they are outnumbered, they will only believe there is a conspiracy to steal their money to give it to the people in the Baltimore. It was just racism, and I was too young to understand it back then. I know what Maryland is, I’m just giving you the alternate reality version of Maryland the republicans live in. I mean, just a few days ago my mother texted me to complain about the city getting more funding for something or other when their town wasn’t. Their town doesn’t need anything, it’s perfectly fine. Hell it even had a decent rail station for a small town. I never understood how racist my family really was, until I went away to college and actually saw the world.
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Nov 11, 2017 02:01
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boner confessor posted:this is what is going to happen, same as ceelo green. he can still have a job outside of the spotlight but his days on the public stage are over Wait what the gently caress did Ceelo do
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The Lemondrop Dandy posted:Prince George's county is notable for being the richest minority-majority county in the nation, too! Really nice area, Maryland was kinda great. The motto when you crossed the river on the Woodrow Wilson Bridge was always hilarious though: "Prince George County: A Livable Community". Oh man did people get touchy if they heard you call it PG county.
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