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I don't even know how to see a unit's stats outside of battle atm though, and I'm not prepared to tab out and google every time I get a new one I don't think. If the game shows that stuff in some other place as well I'd love to know.
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Insurrectionist posted:I don't even know how to see a unit's stats outside of battle atm though, and I'm not prepared to tab out and google every time I get a new one I don't think. If the game shows that stuff in some other place as well I'd love to know. The in-battle hotkey is I (i) and on the campaign map you should be able to see stats when hovering over unit cards (the stats appear in the bottom-left). You can pin the stats by clicking the little pin icon on the unit card, and then hover the mouse over the stats and attributes and abilities to see what they are, and get breakdowns of damage stats etc.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:22
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Insurrectionist posted:I don't even know how to see a unit's stats outside of battle atm though, and I'm not prepared to tab out and google every time I get a new one I don't think. If the game shows that stuff in some other place as well I'd love to know. Outside of battles units have a little pin icon on the their unit card. It will allow you to mouseover the expanded unit card on the left hand side of your screen, above the portrait. This unit card is way more useful than the encylopedia. e: oh beaten
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Nov 11, 2017 01:26
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So the unit cards show everything relevant? That's convenient at least.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:28
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Insurrectionist posted:So I got the first game on sale recently and started playing it, not really gotten to grips with it yet in part because of a problem loading information. Basically all unit information panes are just black screens, like this, forever. Right clicking on a unit for information is pretty useless. You're better off looking at the stats when you hover over them (and you can hover over their buffs there for even more info). There's a small button to let you do this in battles as well, on the bottom left.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:31
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There's a couple of missing stats like attack speed and accuracy but in general it's good
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Nov 11, 2017 01:33
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John Charity Spring posted:The in-battle hotkey is I (i) and on the campaign map you should be able to see stats when hovering over unit cards (the stats appear in the bottom-left). You can pin the stats by clicking the little pin icon on the unit card, and then hover the mouse over the stats and attributes and abilities to see what they are, and get breakdowns of damage stats etc. This remains the most convoluted way of viewing unit stats ever invented.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:49
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Yeah, as great as the total war warhammer games are the bullshit in-game 'redirect to a lovely browser' help screen has always been a terrible idea that is terribly implemented.
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Nov 11, 2017 01:52
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Insurrectionist posted:So the unit cards show everything relevant? That's convenient at least. You can also select a unit in the army pane and then scroll over the recruitment menu and it will compare their stats.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Yeah, as great as the total war warhammer games are the bullshit in-game 'redirect to a lovely browser' help screen has always been a terrible idea that is terribly implemented. The update that's coming to Rome 2 got rid of the web-based encyclopedia, so there's hope it'll be gone in Warhammer 3 at least. I get the appeal of the online encyclopedia as a developer. You can update information in it without having to push a patch every time you add an apostrophe or fix a typo or whatever. It could have even been used as a vehicle to tease upcoming content and stuff like that, but man they couldn't have implemented it any worse. New Butt Order fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Nov 11, 2017 |
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Nov 11, 2017 03:21
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The problem with the encyclopaedia is it has the abilities of poo poo like a Corpse Cart but doesn't explain what the hell it actually does.
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Nov 11, 2017 04:04
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Hyperlinking is hard okay.
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Nov 11, 2017 04:08
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20 loving turns to complete the last ritual WH2 has some really loving terrible pacing, I decided to mop up my first campaign and I am snoring here after sacrificing the skaven mega army of death got stopped by 3 full garrisons
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Nov 11, 2017 04:46
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I hate how easy it is for the Norseman AI to recover. I crush 3 stacks and send their entire army to hell and 4-5 turns later they're running around with 3 stacks again.
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new phone who dis posted:I hate how easy it is for the Norseman AI to recover. I crush 3 stacks and send their entire army to hell and 4-5 turns later they're running around with 3 stacks again. Old Norsca has MASSIVE background income to compensate for their army/building selection being poor and their lands being frozen hellholes with poo poo income. You can't really ever suppress them without annihilating them because even if you force them back into one settlement this background income remains ludicrous.
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Nov 11, 2017 05:46
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If you really want to take out your hatred of norsemen then play a bretonnia campaign, get the norsca/chaos techs, and send a doomstack north to scour the poorly-defended settlements
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Nov 11, 2017 05:48
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Kanos posted:Old Norsca has MASSIVE background income to compensate for their army/building selection being poor and their lands being frozen hellholes with poo poo income. You can't really ever suppress them without annihilating them because even if you force them back into one settlement this background income remains ludicrous. It makes the Dark Elves super not fun to play. I've tried campaigns with them 4 or 5 times and it's just a slog of whack-a-mole and I hate it. I should be invading Ulthuan or plundering Lizard temples, instead I'm playing against the lovely Norscan AI with unlimited resources from over a year ago.
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new phone who dis posted:It makes the Dark Elves super not fun to play. I've tried campaigns with them 4 or 5 times and it's just a slog of whack-a-mole and I hate it. I should be invading Ulthuan or plundering Lizard temples, instead I'm playing against the lovely Norscan AI with unlimited resources from over a year ago. There's a mod on the workshop that cripples their background income to prevent them from doing this as a holdover until Foundation hits, at least.
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Nov 11, 2017 05:57
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Kanos posted:There's a mod on the workshop that cripples their background income to prevent them from doing this as a holdover until Foundation hits, at least. That's the other thing that's killing me - No regiments of renown. It's funny because behind walls I can beat like 2 stacks with just a garrison but out in the open field with a decent army I just get swarmed by these assholes.
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Nov 11, 2017 06:00
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What's the best way to see the relationship between two AI factions? Before you'd just open diplomacy with one and then hover over the map face icon of the other, but now those icons follow lords around rather than being in a set place, which may be off in the fog or whatever.
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Nov 11, 2017 06:10
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Vargs posted:What's the best way to see the relationship between two AI factions? Before you'd just open diplomacy with one and then hover over the map face icon of the other, but now those icons follow lords around rather than being in a set place, which may be off in the fog or whatever. if you click on a settlement for a faction, then go to the other faction's settlements, where you'd check your own relations (the green/yellow/red face) now tells you the relationship between the two.
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Nov 11, 2017 06:13
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:If you really want to take out your hatred of norsemen then play a bretonnia campaign, get the norsca/chaos techs, and send a doomstack north to scour the poorly-defended settlements Or Durthu/Orion. Turn the north green. AI Malekith tends to hellmarch Norsca, too, when Chaos shows up.
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Nov 11, 2017 06:43
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Dark Elfs is fun because you start out bashing the absolute poo poo out of norscans who field hordes and hordes of dudes that are 100% worse than your dudes in pretty much every way (excluding trolls). So you have an army of 800 dark elfs who beat armies of 3000 norscans, enslave them, and eat them to create a battleship. Course, by the time you beat all the idiot norscans, you might as well be unassailable because nobody is gonna attack you in any meaningful way that a single stack+garrison can't stop.
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Nov 11, 2017 06:51
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On the other hand, every Norscan village by turn 40 or so is worth 10000+ gold when sacked. Their typical army is terrible at auto-resolve as well. My main army was able to take on three of theirs with 90% odd in my favor
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Nov 11, 2017 06:52
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Fair but sometimes it's really great to cast the blade vortex and kill 6 million unwashed viking bois before you start dealing with high elf bullshit.
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One thing I'm a little disappointed about is that they simply copied a lot of mods that had heroes as part of a garrison. In theory this is fine since a hero is like a mini-lord in a lot of respects, but the problem is that the garrison heroes get treated like regular units that build up veterancy chevrons, not heroes with actual skills they can build up. They should have made it so that heroes could 'embed' into a garrison much like they could embed in a Lord's army, and impart any bonuses they'd normally apply to a Lord's army instead to the garrison (in particular, replenishment). Wizards, for example, would be an amazing force multiplier if embedded in a garrison. You can sometimes get them as part of an existing garrison, but they only get their starting ability. Being able to embed a hero in a city that was in imminent danger of attack would be really useful for combat support/caster heroes in particular.
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I think I hosed up. I'm around turn 130, and the Wood Elves control like half the drat world. They go after The Empire, who I'm allied with, and I have 5-6 full stack armies, so I figure it's a good time to beat them back a bit. I win the first few fights against small armies and take a good bit of territory from them...but then Durthu and a Glade rider show up and just start wrecking me. How do you counter wood elves as VC? Their archers run faster than my cavalry. The only thing I can catch them with is bats, but they rip my bats to shreds on the approach because it even takes bats a long time to catch them. Meanwhile, Forest Dragons and Treemen are beating my infantry to paste. They crushed all three of my southern armies, and now that side of my empire is kind of screwed. I'm trying to pull Dwarves and Lizardmen into the fight to take some pressure off...but drat.
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Anyone had the game be kind of crashy since the hotfix? I've had two desktop crashes today when I've had zero since TWW2 came out.
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Nov 11, 2017 08:12
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Kanos posted:Anyone had the game be kind of crashy since the hotfix? I've had two desktop crashes today when I've had zero since TWW2 came out. Yes, I had four crashes yesterday, and two times where it started to crash but then recovered.
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Nov 11, 2017 08:16
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Gonkish posted:Or Durthu/Orion. Turn the north green. Durthu's Ski Trip is the most efficient way to scour the north. He takes zero attrition from the word go, so he can just walk out into the sea and start avenging all the trees murdered to make viking longships. You can reforest the north so quickly that Kislev will survive until the actual Chaos Invasion.
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Nov 11, 2017 08:25
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Kislev always dominate in my games. I don't know own how, those big cash chaos bonuses for some fortunate resolutions.
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On the official forums, a dev said they are looking into the issue of AI armies forming very narrow and deep formations. It make my HElf vortex campaign pretty trivial so I'm glad they are looking into fixing that.
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JBP posted:Kislev always dominate in my games. I don't know own how, those big cash chaos bonuses for some fortunate resolutions. I must have got a busted copy of this game because Kislev is ruined almost immediately, as is every AI faction bordering the Norsca. They just can't seem to ever keep an army anywhere.
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In my Karl Franz ME game, Louen Leoncoeur immediately set sail to the north for his personal crusade. He's been crushing the Norse for more than 30 turns but can't seem to hold onto any territory. Meanwhile, his homeland is being contested by two Bret factions, the undead, the mountain dorfs and the woodies. While I'm cleaning up the vampires to the east I get to watch my mini Bret soap opera in between turns. Guess he really is Richard the Lionheart
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torsoboy posted:In my Karl Franz ME game, Louen Leoncoeur immediately set sail to the north for his personal crusade. He's been crushing the Norse for more than 30 turns but can't seem to hold onto any territory. Meanwhile, his homeland is being contested by two Bret factions, the undead, the mountain dorfs and the woodies. While I'm cleaning up the vampires to the east I get to watch my mini Bret soap opera in between turns. Same thing is happening here; glad I ganked Marienburg under him just in the nick of time. I'd rather him go crusade against the demon vikings instead of expanding further in the Empire too, because I already have to contend with a bunch of dwarfs taking Empire regions and that will not do.
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The funniest games are the ones where Marienburg doesn't crack and builds a massive garrison and three stacks that never leave the city.
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Insurrectionist posted:Black info screen stuff That might be windows firewall related. Alt tab to Windows and see if there are any notifications about wh being blocked.
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JBP posted:The funniest games are the ones where Marienburg doesn't crack and builds a massive garrison and three stacks that never leave the city. Every single game?
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JBP posted:The funniest games are the ones where Marienburg doesn't crack and builds a massive garrison and three stacks that never leave the city. Just like Karak Eight Peaks.
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torsoboy posted:In my Karl Franz ME game, Louen Leoncoeur immediately set sail to the north for his personal crusade. He's been crushing the Norse for more than 30 turns but can't seem to hold onto any territory. Meanwhile, his homeland is being contested by two Bret factions, the undead, the mountain dorfs and the woodies. While I'm cleaning up the vampires to the east I get to watch my mini Bret soap opera in between turns. This seems to be a ME staple, not that I'm complaining
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